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Celeb News: Gaga Cancels Indonesian Show
Member Since: 11/27/2011
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Originally posted by Versace
How in the hell does her way of singing and dancing insult religion? I repeat my questions which you didn't answer: Find me her lyrics that are insulting and some part of her tour that isn't appropriate.
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I already told you , that's a big subject , and if you really are serious about knowing more , then message and and I'll answer the questions you have .
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Member Since: 2/16/2012
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Originally posted by Bahjat
If they really did want her there , the concert would've been on .
But if millions disagree against thousands , it's obvious what's gonna happen..
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Those millions shouldn't have ANY say though. They are not the ones going to the concert. Seriously.
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Member Since: 9/23/2009
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Originally posted by Versace
How in the hell does her way of singing and dancing insult religion? I repeat my questions which you didn't answer: Find me her lyrics that are insulting and some part of her tour that isn't appropriate.
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I don't agree with the concert being shut down, but Lady GaGa can be MIS-CONSTRUED to be offensive. And I see why this country WOULD shut down the BTWB.
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Member Since: 5/1/2012
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Originally posted by Bahjat
No hun , I'm following a religion which shows what to do and what not to do .
Even freedom has limits , if not , you would kill me if you saw me , am I wrong?
We Muslims simply don't do what everyone else does because we DO believe , we do believe that if we do good , we will get the eternal life , which not a lot of people believe in , but we do .
And what's wrong about living safely ? what's wrong about walking around knowing no one would touch you ?
But yeah , they barely follow real Islam now . if you really want to know more , then you can ask me and I'll direct you to links , I'm not ready to start a whole different argument with 10 people pointing at me already.
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I dont even care about you religion , a religion that has caused millions of deaths and is still causing tons of pain and sadness.
Are you SERIOUSLY trying to convince me to even spent a second on your messed up , abysmally stupid religion ? Are y SERIOUSLY trying to convince me that it is right to commit bomb suicide , cause of your BELIEFS ? NO FAKING HUMAN being has the right to tell you what to do .
Your freedom ends where the next person's freedom begins .
Freedom has limits doesnt mean that you cant attend a concert . See how narrow minded your religion made you . Its SO pathetic . you are implying that there sud be limited freedom when it comes to dressing up or saying wht you want ? are u ?SERIOUSLY ?!
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Member Since: 8/30/2011
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Originally posted by Bahjat
If they really did want her there , the concert would've been on .
But if millions disagree against thousands , it's obvious what's gonna happen..
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I really don't know if millions actually even give a **** about Gaga performing there. From what has been reported, it is only an issue with extremely extremist religous groups. 52K people paid to see her, which shows she has a strong fanbase there. If her team really wanted her to get there, I agree thay would find a way, but if the concert will be cancelled, it will be to avoid any risk for her (and her fans') security or further conflicts.
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Member Since: 10/24/2011
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I stand for what I've said. I hope you're not offended, Bahjat, but this is a huge injustice towards the people who paid for the show and were excited about it, and a depriving of thousand of people's freedom.
We'll see how the thing ends.
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Originally posted by givemethatpop
But maybe the people who bought the tickets don't give a single **** about your God.
Maybe they don't need ANYBODY to tell them what's good and what's bad since they're people with their own opinion and criterion.
Maybe they like her shows, the way she dresses and her lyrics.
Maybe the people who dislike all of the above should NOT go to the concert, stay at home and his/her life will go on. Nobody tells them to buy tickets to her show.
Maybe that group should learn to live and let live.
Maybe they should shut up since Indonesia it's a free country and their religious arguments are valid for THEMSELVES, but they can't rule society's working.
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Member Since: 12/1/2010
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We don't care what people say, we know the truth 
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Member Since: 8/30/2011
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Originally posted by Яeo.
Same thing. Still a canceled concert.
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I was answering to this:
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Originally posted by Bahjat
No one forced her , right?
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Someone evidently did. 
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Member Since: 5/1/2012
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Originally posted by Shapes
INSENSITIVITY TO RELIGION
Got it?
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HE claimed that his/her religion respects homosexuals , women and people of other cultures .
sould i report him/her for innacuracy ?
GOT IT?
u seriously expect me to be "sensitive" for a religion that has made people belieeve that commiting bomb suicide is right ?
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Member Since: 10/3/2010
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Originally posted by The Night
I dont even care about you religion , a religion that has caused millions of deaths and is still causing tons of pain and sadness.
Are you SERIOUSLY trying to convince me to even spent a second on your messed up , abysmally stupid religion ? Are y SERIOUSLY trying to convince me that it is right to commit bomb suicide , cause of your BELIEFS ? NO FAKING HUMAN being has the right to tell you what to do .
Your freedom ends where the next person's freedom begins .
Freedom has limits doesnt mean that you cant attend a concert . See how narrow minded your religion made you . Its SO pathetic . you are implying that there sud be limited freedom when it comes to dressing up or saying wht you want ? are u ?SERIOUSLY ?!
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Racism?! Wow.
Just wow, ATRL. I thought this community was better than this
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Member Since: 11/27/2011
Posts: 15,434
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Originally posted by Яeo.
You have the right to do whatever you desire, but your freedom ends once it takes over someone's else, and this is what happening right now. In between those 52,000 ticket buyers there are sure people who are non-believers, yet the opinion of the believers have taken over their freedom to attend a ****ing concert.  |
Not when you follow a religion sis .
Really , if everyone could do anything they want , what IS the purpose of life?
Why are people very religious? did you think about that?
As I said , if anyone has a serious question , I'm open to answer .
Yes , there must be non-believers , but it just happened .
If the majority agree , then they should do what they agree on .
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Member Since: 10/24/2011
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Originally posted by The Night
I dont even care about you religion , a religion that has caused millions of deaths and is still causing tons of pain and sadness.
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Girl, don't get me started on who was really behind the 9/11 'cause it's not the topic, but this is just unnecessary. I'm sure millions of people enjoy their spirituality without causing pain and sadness to anyone.
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Why's this thread reported?
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Member Since: 11/24/2006
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Originally posted by Shapes
Racism?! Wow.
Just wow, ATRL. I thought this community was better than this
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Racism is worse than cancelling concerts. SMH The Night.
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Member Since: 12/16/2011
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Originally posted by J a y
Why's this thread reported?
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Because it's a mess. And that gif always kills me. 
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Member Since: 2/17/2010
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Originally posted by Bahjat
Really , if everyone could do anything they want , what IS the purpose of life?
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Dafuq did I just read.
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Member Since: 2/16/2012
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Originally posted by J a y
Why's this thread reported?
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This gif.
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Member Since: 5/1/2012
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Originally posted by Shapes
Racism?! Wow.
Just wow, ATRL. I thought this community was better than this
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Do u even read what you're typing ?
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Member Since: 8/30/2011
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From the other thread:
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Don’t gag Gaga, churches urge cops
Church groups are urging the National Police to reverse their decision to deny a permit for US singer Lady Gaga’s upcoming concert in Jakarta, saying that it will hinder freedom of expression.
The Indonesian Bishops’ Conference (KWI) rights commission secretary Benny Susetyo told The Jakarta Post on Tuesday that the police bowed to pressure from hard-line groups such as the infamous Islam Defenders Front (FPI).
“This is dangerous for our democracy, because our law enforcers have surrendered to such brutal groups. The police should have good reasons to ban Gaga’s concert, not merely because of the groups’ pressure,” he said.
The Jakarta Police have also not issued a recommendation to the National Police to issue a permit for Gaga’s concert on June 3 at Bung Karno Main Stadium in Senayan, Central Jakarta.
While the police have claimed that the decision was made because Gaga “has been spreading ****ography” that is not suitable for local audiences, other organizations such as the FPI have been denouncing the pop sensation.
Commenting on this, Benny said that the police should explain their decision transparently to the public.
“We need to have a non-judgmental attitude in assessing artistic performances. Besides, the freedom of expression is guaranteed within our Constitution,” he said.
The Communion of Indonesian Churches (PGI) chairman Andreas Yewangoe separately hit out over the decision, saying that members of Indonesia’s civil society should be trusted to judge art performances.
“If other parties act like they are the nation’s moral police all the time, Indonesians will not have a chance to grow up,” he said.
In late April, conservative Christian groups in South Korea staged a series of protests against Lady Gaga during her recent concert in Seoul, accusing her of advocating homosexuality and ****ography, The Korea Herald has reported.
South Korean artists and critics, however, called for cultural tolerance among the conservative churches.
The Korea Media Rating Board gave an over-18 rating to the concert, saying her song Just Dance, to be performed at the concert, is “inappropriate” for minors. The singer indirectly criticized the Korean government’s move to enforce the age restriction.
The Jakarta Post
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