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Poll: Xtina vs Britney: Who took more risks with her last album?
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Originally posted by Signs
I'm struggling to understand how the 25th best selling album of the year would have brought anything to mainstream music. And please don't call femme fatale dubstep.
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Am cackling.
Everyone jumped on Blackout and it didn't say billions. Britney is an icon adn everyone looks at what she is doing, how much she sells doesn't matter. With the right promo K-Feds album could've gone top 10 (well, not really but you know) and that would not set trends. Sales don't matter, it comes down to who is singing.
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Both albums are equally risky, with Bionic being the most uninteresting.
Bionic: Elastic Love, Glam, Desnudate, Bobblehead, Monday Morning, Birds of Prey.
Femme Fatale: How I Roll, Trip To Your Heart, Criminal, He About To Lose Me, Don't Keep Me Waiting.
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Originally posted by Signs
I'm struggling to understand how the 25th best selling album of the year would have brought anything to mainstream music. And please don't call femme fatale dubstep.
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HIAM broke records and was the first song featuring dubstep to reach the top 20 let alone #1 so yes it brought it to mainstream................
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Originally posted by Signs
And please don't call femme fatale dubstep.
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Originally posted by ifyouseekLEM
Femme Fatale experimented with dubstep |
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Originally posted by Signs
I'm struggling to understand how the 25th best selling album of the year would have brought anything to mainstream music. And please don't call femme fatale dubstep.
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Where was dubstep on the radio before Femme Fatale came out? Exactly, nowhere. The album may have been the 25th best selling (is that a bad thing? #25/millions of artists?) -- but it's dubstep infused singles: HIAM and TTWE were some of the year's most critically acclaimed and best selling songs of the year.
And it IS dubstep. It may not be hardcore dubstep, but we gotta start somewhere - right? Billboard agrees with me....
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Originally posted by BILLBOARD
Dubstep music has been burgeoning overseas and in patches of the U.S. for years, but the electronic genre emerged into the mainstream in 2011, with Sonny Moore, aka Skrillex, leading the way. After Britney Spears added a pinch of dubstep to her single "Hold It Against Me" and Korn announced a dubstep-heavy new album, Skrillex scored a Best New Artist nomination at the 2012 Grammys, marking the first time an electronica DJ has scored a nod in the category.
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Just me that finds this risky then, yes?  |
What?
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Originally posted by humbz
Both albums are equally risky, with Bionic being the most uninteresting.
Bionic: Elastic Love, Glam, Desnudate, Bobblehead, Monday Morning, Birds of Prey.
Femme Fatale: How I Roll, Trip To Your Heart, Criminal, He About To Lose Me, Don't Keep Me Waiting.
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Originally posted by PopBoi
Am cackling.
Everyone jumped on Blackout and it didn't say billions. Britney is an icon adn everyone looks at what she is doing, how much she sells doesn't matter. With the right promo K-Feds album could've gone top 10 (well, not really but you know) and that would not set trends. Sales don't matter, it comes down to who is singing.
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Not really. Sales set trends. Sales means popularity. Other artists wont take risks just because another icon is doing so, especially if their album didn't sell much.Femme Fatale is if anything dubstep influenced.
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Image is everything. And out of these two girls, Christina practically threw herself into failure.
The past two pages have been stating that FF is Dance/Dubstep and Britney practically invented it, but if that's FF then how did she take a risk and do something different? I see no major risks taken from album to album by Ms Spears.
I mean, is having a risky album some kind of trophy or?
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A pinch. Exactly. Its not hardcore dubstep so where is the risk then? HIAM as just about enough dubstep to appeal to large pop crowd, and to say it slightly experiments with dubstep imo.
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Originally posted by J a y
The past two pages have been stating that FF is Dance/Dubstep and Britney practically invented it, but if that's FF then how did she take a risk and do something different? I see no major risks taken from album to album by Ms Spears.
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The dupstep mentions have clearly been about the album being influenced by dupstep music and bringing dupstep to mainstream music, not that she "invented it".
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The point is Bionic was more of a "risky" album case close,move on. |
The only reason Bionic is considered a risky album is because it's DATED. That isn't intentionally either, it's purely because Xtina and her label clearly don't know how to keep up with the times. Bionic TRIED to sound futuristic but it completed failed. It should have been released in 2008 along with Keeps Gettin' Better. THAT would have been a risk because at that time people were still on the Timbaland bandwagon. I think Bionic was more of a 'mistake' than it was a 'risk'.
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Originally posted by J a y
Image is everything. And out of these two girls, Christina practically threw herself into failure.
The past two pages have been stating that FF is Dance/Dubstep and Britney practically invented it, but if that's FF then how did she take a risk and do something different? I see no major risks taken from album to album by Ms Spears.
I mean, is having a risky album some kind of trophy or?
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Britney didn't take risks and no one claimed that, but she didn't jump on any bandwagons which is what Xtina did. Acting like a ***** isn't risky it's just stupid, the video isn't why NMT and the album flopped.
Britney has taken risks in her career before.
Trophy? What are you talking about? Thats the poll question. 
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Originally posted by Signs
Not really. Sales set trends. Sales means popularity. Other artists wont take risks just because another icon is doing so, especially if their album didn't sell much.Femme Fatale is if anything dubstep influenced.
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So it's a coincidence that dubstep has taken off after Britney did it? It's a coincidence everyone went into dance music after Britney did it? Britney is always setting trends, sales don't mattter when you're Britney Spears.
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Originally posted by for lovers
The only reason Bionic is considered a risky album is because it's DATED. That isn't intentionally either, it's purely because Xtina and her label clearly don't know how to keep up with the times. Bionic TRIED to sound futuristic but it completed failed. It should have been released in 2008 along with Keeps Gettin' Better. THAT would have been a risk because at that time people were still on the Timbaland bandwagon. I think Bionic was more of a 'mistake' than it was a 'risk'.
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This tbh. 
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Originally posted by PopBoi
Britney didn't take risks and no one claimed that, but she didn't jump on any bandwagons which is what Xtina did. Acting like a ***** isn't risky it's just stupid, the video isn't why NMT and the album flopped.
So it's a coincidence that dubstep has tanek off after Britney did it? It's a coincidence everyone went into dance music after Britney did it? Britney is always setting trends, sales don't mattter when you're Britney Spears.
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Lady Gaga had more influence on bringing dance music to mainstream. Britney experiments. There is a difference between experimenting and making a song of that genre and making it extremely popular and setting trends.
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Originally posted by Signs
Lady Gaga had more influence on bringing dance music to mainstream. Britney experiments. There is a difference between experimenting and making a song of that genre and making it extremely popular and setting trends.
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HIAM was a hit and started the dubstep trend. We could get into Gaga's music pre-Blackout and post-Blackout but that would be another thread.
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