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Fan Base: Archived: Taylor Swift (#1)
Member Since: 8/27/2011
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NEW ZEALAND ITUNES
1 Speak Now
10 Speak Now (Extended Version)
Still on top
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Originally posted by thediscomonkey
Why do I get error messages when I tried to look her repertoire at BMI website?  And only found 20 from ASCAP (mostly from her 1st album).
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I tried and I get error messages too
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Member Since: 11/9/2011
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Originally posted by taylor__fan
I tried and I get error messages too
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Tried as the publisher, said that her repertoire is on Sony/ATV's. And found it
https://www.sonyatv.com/search/index...3DTaylor+Swift
Tell that to peeps who are wondering if she use Raditude. 
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Originally posted by Bahjat
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+1 
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Originally posted by Bahjat
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IKR?
Dear John Lyrics>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
It's on my top 5 of songs that I play more
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I don't know why Innocent is almost everyone's least favourite song ..
I love that song so much .. the lyrics are BRILLIANT .
her vocals sounds so soft and very well-controlled .. the melody is haunting and just BEAUTIFUL .
it touches me .. a lot
You're still an Innocent  .
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Originally posted by Bahjat
I don't know why Innocent is almost everyone's least favourite song ..
I love that song so much .. the lyrics are BRILLIANT .
her vocals sounds so soft and very well-controlled .. the melody is haunting and just BEAUTIFUL .
it touches me .. a lot
You're still an Innocent . |
I agree
It's not my favourite at all but it's a good song
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Originally posted by Bahjat
I don't know why Innocent is almost everyone's least favourite song ..
I love that song so much .. the lyrics are BRILLIANT .
her vocals sounds so soft and very well-controlled .. the melody is haunting and just BEAUTIFUL .
it touches me .. a lot
You're still an Innocent . |
Time turns flames to embers
You'll have new septembers
Everyone of us has messed up too
Lives change like the weather
I hope you remember
Today is never too late to
Be brand new
I love innocent  ever since she slayed us with that VMA performance
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Originally posted by Fearless
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I think she's not going to perform 
I think that have announced all the performs and she isn't there
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Originally posted by Ripedie254
Time turns flames to embers
You'll have new septembers
Everyone of us has messed up too
Lives change like the weather
I hope you remember
Today is never too late to
Be brand new
I love innocent ever since she slayed us with that VMA performance |
Someone said the other day here that she should perform mine there, and yes, it's true, she should perform it...But....her performance was so perfect
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Originally posted by taylor__fan
I agree
It's not my favourite at all but it's a good song
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I'm going to be honest here
like seriously , every time I listen to a song from Taylor I go all like '' Oh this HAS to be my favourite song ever ''
Every.Single.Time
And I'm not kidding .. It's so weird .. every song has a different theme that applies to your life even if your story is a little different .. every melody has the ability to make you either really happy or really sad , every lyric speaks to you .. wether it's warning you , or teaching you something ..
Every song Taylor has put out is worthy being a favourite song .
I love the queen 
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****. I'm frustrated on this conspiracy theory of Taylor & Ghost-writers. I need to get the **** out of my head. May I make a long ass post here after this one?
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Originally posted by Bahjat
I'm going to be honest here
like seriously , every time I listen to a song from Taylor I go all like '' Oh this HAS to be my favourite song ever ''
Every.Single.Time
And I'm not kidding .. It's so weird .. every song has a different theme that applies to your life even if your story is a little different .. every melody has the ability to make you either really happy or really sad , every lyric speaks to you .. wether it's warning you , or teaching you something ..
Every song Taylor has put out is worthy being a favourite song .
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I understand you, It doesn't happen to me with all her songs, but there are so many songs in her discography that I couldn't choose between them
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Originally posted by thediscomonkey
****. I'm frustrated on this conspiracy theory of Taylor & Ghost-writers. I need to get the **** out of my head. May I make a long ass post here after this one?
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Sure 
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Ours is 8 weeks at #1 on CMT top 20 
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Originally posted by taylor__fan
I think she's not going to perform
I think that have announced all the performs and she isn't there |
What?!?! she's not?!?!? 
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Okay, so it all began with a post on Taylor's IMDb thread. I cannot make a perfect counter-attack argument to it.
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I'll probably get flamed for this, but I know a few songwriters in Nashville, and Taylor "contributes" to the songs that she supposedly writes. She doesn't actually write them.
No, I don't have proof other than what I've been told, and I'm not here to convince anyone that I'm right. Since everyone else who replies has said yes, she does write all her own music, I just wanted to provide what I've been told, which is no, she doesn't.
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I found out that this person him/herself use a duplicate account. But I really, really, don't want to touch that subject, it would give that person more ammo cause I didn't answer his main argument. Then, I go to SCM, since I remember he once talked about songwriting & this whole Raditude thing. Then I found the same **** again.
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TS writes her own songs: Then answer this: why are so many professional BMI songwriters winning BMI awards for writing Taylor Swift songs?
TS doesn’t use autotuner: Perhaps she meant, she doesn’t use autotuner as opposed to pitch correction, but as an individual who spends quite a bit of time in the studio (If you spend enough time professionally recording audio you can train your ears to pick out nuances like autotuner and pitch correction), I can tell you, YES, her recorded songs contain quite a bit of pitch correction, and YES she uses pitch correction during her live performances (I caught sight of several autotuner racks being used by her audio engineers on tour – autotuner set on more subtle levels gives an artist very subtle pitch correction and makes the singer sound real nice without the audience being the wiser). Now, simply using autotuner/pitch correction should not be viewed as a negative, as I would bet my monthly paycheck that you havent heard a single album put out this year that did not contain autotuner/pitch correction, and cannot go to ANY major production event where the artist isnt using at least a touch of live autotuner/pitch correction.
Trigg answered - Pony,
She writes her own songs. We know this because of the rules Roy Acuff and Fred Rose put in pace 60 years ago that make ghost writers an impossibility in country music. Yes, someone can contribute just one word and get a songwriting royalty, but on her last album “Speak Now”, Taylor swift is the only one the songs are attributed to. If folks are winning awards, it might be for her previous albums. You can argue taste, but you can’t argue fact. It’s easy to see that Taylor Swift is a pop star and assume she doesn’t write her own songs, just like it is easy to read an article like this and assume I am a Taylor Swift fan or supporter, when really I think her shrewd savageness is something to be learned from.
As for her using Auto-tune, please. SHE CAN’T SING. We all see that. So why would she use it selectively? I just think that’s a silly argument. If you want to criticize her, say she can’t sing, because that is undeniable. As for Auto-tune, I believe her denials that she uses it, because I hear the results.
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well, apparently those rules mr. Acuff and mr. Rose put out are not too binding because I have personally viewed songwriting contracts which stated implicitly that (in layman’s terms) certain larger shares (points) would be gained by the songwriter agreeing that the artist(s) would be given full songwriter credit and the actual songwriter would agree to non-diclosure about their role in writing the song.
I was told personally by one professional songwriter of one specific example where he/she was part of two person songwriting team assigned to work with this one specific Nashville artist. The two songwriters showed up at 9am and started working over several song ideas they both brought in. The artist finally drug in around 1pm without even bringing an instrument, then proceeded to sit on the couch and play with his/her phone the remainder of the day pausing only to say “Yeah, that sounds good” or “Yeah, let’s try that.” Both songwriters signed a deal similar to the one described above, and to this day are still receiving royalties for a song that this popular artist got credit for writing (I even watched a GAC interview with the artist going on-and-on about the life events and inspirations that caused them to write this lovely tune…very funny stuff)
Trigg answered - Look man, I have no doubt the Music Row machine is stilted towards performing artists being given credit as songwriters whether they truly deserve it or not. In fact I wrote a long piece about it a while back, specifically talking about Taylor Swift and Liz Rose:
http://www.savingcountrymusic.com/bi...ngwriting-rule
I also would not be surprised if songwriting credits are being swapped behind doors, protected by gag orders as you’re implying, and if you truly believe this, then let’s break some news.
But this is the deal. I will assume you are not a Taylor Swift supporter. I have gone from being a Taylor Swift detractor to being benign on her. But if you want to defeat somebody, you first have to show that person respect. It is like a football team. They may have more talent than their opponent, but if they don’t have respect for them, they can still get steamrolled on Sunday. If you want to defeat Taylor Swift, first give her credit where it is deserved. If you want for people to listen to you about her songs sucking, start off by admitting she wrote them herself. If anything, this is even a bigger indictment. If you want to say she can’t sing, at least give her credit for not using Auto-tune like many tone deaf artists do.
When you say she’s tone deaf AND uses Auto-tune, all you do is come across as bitter, because you can only have one and not the other. For over three years I screamed and yelled about how bad Taylor Swift was. I don’t take any of my words back, but I have come to find respect for her in her honesty. I’d like to think I can hear Auto-tune and pitch-bending shifts. I’ve done some audio engineering myself. But moreover, I’ve grown to trust Taylor Swift at her word. She may not be good, but she is honest, and being honest about who she is, is what will give your arguments a strong foundation.
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Quite important stuff too:
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Liz Rose would have also never allowed Taylor to write a nearly 7 minute song in “Dear John” and a nearly 6 minutes song in “Enchanted”, each respectively being 4X and 3X longer than standard radio play would allow. Those are the best two songs on the album, yet Taylor still gets chided for selling out to radio and being “precocious”.
On a side note, I interviewed Liz’s daughter Caitlin at SXSW this past Spring and talked to her in depth about Taylor, her mom, the art and business of songwriting, and she had lots of good wise points that would help in this discussion, but some hipster stole my voice recorder from me, and my best, most important interview I’ve done all year is now traveling around with some guy in a V neck and vintage Keds who it means nothing to.
Breaks my heart every time I think about it.
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Thank God, Triggerman had excellent answers to that. http://www.savingcountrymusic.com/ke...-from#comments - But I'm still frustrated over the fact that I can't get the clear record from ASCAP or BMI. It's just something that kind of disturbing me cause I can't just knock that person out of the game. Cause we all know you can't play clean to reach the top in this world.
I'm done bitching
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