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Discussion: Is there really a God?
Member Since: 11/8/2011
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I don't believe in just one god. I wasn't made by just one person, so my religion and beliefs come from more than one source.
To answer the OP's original question: It depends on who you ask. Some people believe in a higher power, some people believe there is a man sitting on a throne in heaven. I choose to be spiritual. Nothing against any kind of religion whether it be satanic or the the occult, you have the right to believe and worship whatever you want.
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Member Since: 10/18/2011
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Originally posted by Яeo.
Hur hur hur, Egyptians build the pyramids 3,000 years ago when they had almost no technology to help them build what used to be one of the World 7 Wonders. They knew how to preserve humans into a form of a Mummy, which has lasted until this very day. If people knew how to do all of these things back then, I'm sure they would come up with the theory of the expanding universe, too.
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In fact, secular scientists once believed that the universe was eternal and unchanging. The idea of an expanding universe would have been considered nonsense to most scientists of the past.
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So even if you believe a random man wrote the bible they must have been pretty smart...
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Member Since: 11/22/2011
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Originally posted by rihannafan
 mutations have nothing to do with evolution, when you tan, mutations happen |
Tanning is not a mutation in the biological sense, but passing on a "tan gene," which is essentially how black people came in existence (except, it's the other way around; humans started out black and slowly evolved white skin as we moved further north to absorb more vitamin D in colder climates), is mutation.
Mutation has everything to do with evolution.
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Originally posted by Dictionary.com on Mutation
Mutation
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Biology .
a sudden departure from the parent type in one or more heritable characteristics, caused by a change in a gene or a chromosome.
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an individual, species, or the like, resulting from such a departure.
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Originally posted by Dictionary.com on Evolution
Evolution
Biology.
3. change in the gene pool of a population from generation to generation by such processes as mutation, natural selection, and genetic drift.
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Member Since: 5/28/2011
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Originally posted by BnPac
Black people were not created. it is a civilization living under sun which caused their skin to darken and the genetics mutations follow. It is science right here, so I guess you can't deny that.
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Technically, by that wording, they still don't exist.
By this, yes, they were created, but not in the "form" they are now. 
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Member Since: 8/16/2011
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Originally posted by ?eo.
So according to your theory, black people were "created" by someone tanning? |
When did I say that ?  I was just giving an example of mutation. However, If any explanation outside of evolution were to be given, I would probably say it is the skin of african people adjusting to the climate 
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Member Since: 11/22/2011
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Originally posted by BnPac
What is happening here? What is with that black talk. Why does that have to do with Adam and Eve?
And for the last time Adam and Eve's theory is not meant to be taken literally.
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The melatonin argument isn't an argument for people who don't take it literally, it's for Biblical literalists.
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Member Since: 10/18/2011
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Who said Adam & Eve where white?
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Member Since: 8/23/2010
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Originally posted by Love ♥
By this, yes, they were created, but not in the "form" they are now. |
 White were not created in the form they are now either. According to Science we all came from gorillas/monkeys (I don't which of them is the right English word) so black and white people are the same thing, it is just their skin that is different. The skin's color is just a gene which is a result of old and severe mutations.
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Technically, by that wording, they still don't exist.
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What?
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Member Since: 8/23/2010
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Originally posted by *becca*
Who said Adam & Eve where white?
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Exactly! And they didn't exist really. They are a metaphor.
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Originally posted by Entalan
The melatonin argument isn't an argument for people who don't take it literally, it's for Biblical literalists.
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But they are not really biblical "literalists" in this thread? So what's the point?
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Originally posted by BnPac
White were not created in the form they are now either. According to Science we all came from gorillas/monkeys (I don't which of them is the right English word) so black and white people are the same thing, it is just their skin that is different. The skin's color is just a gene which is a result of old and severe mutations.
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Technically, evolution now states that we evolved from protists, not monkeys/apes.
Monkeys/apes, primates, broke off into another branch from this... tree.
Protists were basically all of what everything evolved from. Simpler creatures towards the bottom of a "tree", more complex (Primates, we humans) at the top, extending from the branches.
We did not come from monkeys.
And by that, I was referring to the wording, "Black people were not created".
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Member Since: 8/26/2011
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Originally posted by rihannafan
When did I say that ? I was just giving an example of mutation. However, If any explanation outside of evolution were to be given, I would probably say it is the skin of african people adjusting to the climate[ |
You hit the nail on the head there. Darker skin was an adaptative response to the tropical savana for the early hominids.
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Member Since: 3/13/2011
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Yes. Her name is Beyonce.
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Member Since: 12/13/2010
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Originally posted by Entalan
As Яeo puts it, the existence of a few insights doesn't really prove anything in any meaningful way, since it's just some lucky guess explanations. And, even if they were somehow special, it still isn't solid, scientific evidence, just a historical guess. Paleolithic peoples managed to build Stonehenge as a solar calendar, but that doesn't mean they were divinely inspired. And there are a bunch of holes as well; for example, why would Allah bother telling us that the world is expanding instead of explaining actually pragmatic things for the time of Muhammad, such as how to avoid the Black Plague, giving us cures for illnesses, etc.?
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It is not a lucky guess explanations, those versus are translated from Arabic into English and they are the same versus that were quoted 1500 years ago. When put back into Arabic they carry out the same direct meaning.
why would Allah bother telling us that the world is expanding instead of explaining actually pragmatic things for the time of Muhammad ?
God knows there will be a time people will question his existence. Because of that the book carries major facts that people wouldn't know about at that time + Prophet Muhammad was an illiterate he couldn't read or write and he couldn't come up with those type of discoveries .
Diseases in general are a sign and a reminder from God that there is something much powerful than them.
"(1) And when the plague fell upon them, they said: O Musa! pray for us to your Lord as He has promised with you, if you remove the plague from us, we will certainly believe in you and we will certainly send away with you the children of Israel. (2) But when We removed the plague from them till a term which they should attain lo! they broke (the promise). "
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Member Since: 8/23/2010
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Originally posted by Love ♥
Technically, evolution now states that we evolved from protists, not monkeys/apes.
Monkeys/apes, primates, broke off into another branch from this... tree.
Protists were basically all of what everything evolved from. Simpler creatures towards the bottom of a "tree", more complex (Primates, we humans) at the top, extending from the branches.
We did not come from monkeys.
And by that, I was referring to the wording, "Black people were not created".
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Apes...monkeys...protists...whatever.
Yes but how does this whole essay answer my post?
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You hit the nail on the head there. Darker skin was an adaptative response to the tropical savana for the early hominids.
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Bingo!
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Member Since: 11/22/2011
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Originally posted by BnPac
Exactly! And they didn't exist really. They are a metaphor.
But they are not really biblical "literalists" in this thread? So what's the point?
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The discussion is a result of someone posting a picture for ***** and giggles and rihannafan posting "How about black people came from mutations?"
It wasn't meant as an argument, just a scientific side-discussion about mutation and evolution.
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Member Since: 2/17/2010
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Originally posted by BnPac
Black people were not created..
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I know, that's why I put the "created" in a quotation mark.
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Member Since: 1/12/2012
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You mean Godney, right? If so, yes.
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Originally posted by BnPac
Apes...monkeys...protists...whatever.
Yes but how does this whole essay answer my post?
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I'm not disagreeing with you on that. At all. Just stop.
Oh, and by the way.
This is a monkey:
This is an ape/gorilla:
And this is a protist:
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Member Since: 11/1/2010
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Originally posted by Love ♥
I'm not disagreeing with you on that. At all. Just stop.
Oh, and by the way.
This is a monkey:
This is an ape/gorilla:
And this is a protist:
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Are you making fun of a non-native English speaker's English?
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Member Since: 10/16/2010
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Good lord. Some of you have clearly never taken even a BASIC Biology class and don't understand the meaning of Evolution.
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