| |
Album: Lady Gaga - 'Born This Way' (#3)
Banned
Member Since: 8/16/2011
Posts: 9,414
|
Quote:
Originally posted by vengabeat
 
Let me introduce you to her career.
Alejandro made no impact other than half her fans ditching her for going all dark and weird. TEOG is one of her most successful singles on radio even w/ a ****** video. BTW is one of her highest sellers, so.
Except, I said nothing about her being a "supreme being". I said she controls her career, which she does. That is a fact that has been confirmed by many a Haus member.
RollingStone named TEOG one of her best songs to date and it's one of most critically acclaimed songs of all time. You're caught up with sales, sales, sales, and more sales. That is why your opinions on what is successful is skewed. |
messssss
|
|
|
|
Member Since: 12/15/2009
Posts: 3,166
|
Meltdown comin right up. 
|
|
|
|
Banned
Member Since: 11/25/2011
Posts: 1,626
|
Quote:
Originally posted by GotMyBlueprint
messssss
|
No, don't get me wrong. I LOVE ALEJANDRO and the video is in my top two, but you can't say it had a positive impact. I can't count the number of times I've seen someone say something like, "I liked her until 'Alejandro'." It upsets me.
|
|
|
|
Member Since: 10/2/2011
Posts: 554
|
MTN spin update please! Sorry, but I need to know if it's improving. Especially on Q102, who were the first to put it in PR.
|
|
|
|
Member Since: 3/20/2010
Posts: 3,485
|
Quote:
Originally posted by vengabeat
|
Is the public what makes something successful. How many indie/rock bands are critically acclaimed yet nobody knows them? I know success doesn't rely solely on sales and/or general public's acceptance, but what would be of Gaga if she hadn't won it over?
|
|
|
|
Member Since: 12/15/2009
Posts: 3,166
|
|
|
|
|
Member Since: 5/27/2010
Posts: 37,025
|
Quote:
Originally posted by vengabeat
No, don't get me wrong. I LOVE ALEJANDRO and the video is in my top two, but you can't say it had a positive impact. I can't count the number of times I've seen someone say something like, "I liked her until 'Alejandro'." It upsets me.
|
Alejandro was a huge hit in Europe and South America.
|
|
|
|
Member Since: 3/20/2010
Posts: 3,485
|
Quote:
Originally posted by vengabeat
No, don't get me wrong. I LOVE ALEJANDRO and the video is in my top two, but you can't say it had a positive impact. I can't count the number of times I've seen someone say something like, "I liked her until 'Alejandro'." It upsets me.
|
It then had an impact (perhaps for the wrong reasons), but indeed did. It will be more remembered than Born This Way, Judas, TEOG, Yoü and I and as of now, MTN.
And let me add this:
Quote:
Originally posted by MrPeanut
Alejandro was a huge hit in Europe and South America.
|
|
|
|
|
Member Since: 3/20/2010
Posts: 3,485
|
Is meltdown the only word some members on this forum know? Nobody's having a meltdown, chill out.
|
|
|
|
Member Since: 4/24/2011
Posts: 7,191
|
Quote:
Originally posted by Glamophonic
It then had an impact (perhaps for the wrong reasons), but indeed did. It will be more remembered than Born This Way, Judas, TEOG, Yoü and I and as of now, MTN.
|
no. BTW, TEOG and YAI will be remembered thanks to hype and campaign (BTW), the song and video (TEOG), and Jo.
|
|
|
|
ATRL Contributor
Member Since: 4/20/2011
Posts: 4,875
|
Quote:
Originally posted by Glamophonic
And how much has it sold? Has the video had any impact (due to its quality, of course)? Has the song, overall, had a considerable impact to be remembered over years?  . That pretty much sums up everything I've been trying to say. |
It peaked @ #3 on the Hot 100 and spent 11 weeks in the Top 10. Telephone & Alejandro both spent 7 weeks in the Top 10. Born This Way spent 9 weeks in the Top 10.
It's her fourth biggest radio hit & it sold more than 2.2 m... I blame the video for the weak sales.
|
|
|
|
Member Since: 5/1/2011
Posts: 8,040
|
Quote:
Originally posted by vengabeat
Let me introduce you to her career.
Alejandro made no impact other than half her fans ditching her for going all dark and weird. TEOG is one of her most successful singles on radio even w/ a ****** video. BTW is one of her highest sellers, so.
Except, I said nothing about her being a "supreme being". I said she controls her career, which she does. That is a fact that has been confirmed by many a Haus member.
RollingStone named TEOG one of her best songs to date and it's one of most critically acclaimed songs of all time. You're caught up with sales, sales, sales, and more sales. That is why your opinions on what is successful is skewed.
|
Quote:
Originally posted by vengabeat
No, don't get me wrong. I LOVE ALEJANDRO and the video is in my top two, but you can't say it had a positive impact. I can't count the number of times I've seen someone say something like, "I liked her until 'Alejandro'." It upsets me.
|
LordT.
And let me say this: Ale-Alejandrooo, Don't call my name, don't call my name >>>>>> .
|
|
|
|
Member Since: 9/10/2011
Posts: 981
|
Quote:
Originally posted by MrPeanut
Alejandro was a huge hit in Europe and South America.
|
I'm from México and Alejandro was MASSIVE, I think after Poker Face and Bad Romance is her biggest hit here.
|
|
|
|
Banned
Member Since: 11/25/2011
Posts: 1,626
|
Quote:
Originally posted by Glamophonic
It then had an impact (perhaps for the wrong reasons), but indeed did. It will be more remembered than Born This Way, Judas, TEOG, Yoü and I and as of now, MTN.
And let me add this:
|
Being a hit =/= having impact.
Judas, Y&I, and TEOG will be forgotten, obv and had no impact, but I don't know about BTW. BTW is part of the reason she was just honored at The Trevor Project conference thing. But the thing about this era, it seems, is that she's focusing more on her overall image than the music itself. Maybe that's the problem.
I actually agree with you on a lot of things. I don't hide behind this wall and think everything is okay. I just try to stay positive most of the time 'cause I don't see the point in being negative or constantly reiterating how bad something is.
Quote:
Originally posted by Honey Eyes
LordT.
And let me say this: Ale-Alejandrooo, Don't call my name, don't call my name >>>>>> .
|
Like I said Alejandro is in my top two. Don't twist what I said sista.
But lemme ask you something: You don't think she controls her career? You think if Interscope controlled things, she would have been allowed to do everything she did this era?
And yeah, who's having a meltdown?
|
|
|
|
Member Since: 4/24/2011
Posts: 7,191
|
Quote:
Originally posted by Nyx
It peaked @ #3 on the Hot 100 and spent 11 weeks in the Top 10. Telephone & Alejandro both spent 7 weeks in the Top 10. Born This Way spent 9 weeks in the Top 10.
It's her fourth biggest radio hit & it sold more than 2.3 m... I blame the video for the weak sales.
|
ti be precise, TEOG still at 2.1-2.2m
|
|
|
|
Member Since: 12/15/2009
Posts: 3,166
|
Quote:
Originally posted by Portus
I'm from México and Alejandro was MASSIVE, I think after Poker Face and Bad Romance is her biggest hit here.
|
Alejandro was hugeeee WW.
|
|
|
|
Member Since: 8/21/2011
Posts: 2,445
|
Quote:
Originally posted by Glamophonic
Is meltdown the only word some members on this forum know? Nobody's having a meltdown, chill out.
|
No, they also know the word "negative". 
|
|
|
|
ATRL Contributor
Member Since: 4/20/2011
Posts: 4,875
|
Quote:
Originally posted by nky0411
ti be precise, TEOG still at 2.1-2.2m
|
It sold more than 2.2 m, for sure.
Quote:
|
75 -12 Lady GaGa - The Edge of Glory 173 1(1) 2.197 10.9
|
It's the iTunes update from november 29.
|
|
|
|
Member Since: 3/20/2010
Posts: 3,485
|
Quote:
Originally posted by vengabeat
Being a hit =/= having impact.
Judas, Y&I, and TEOG will be forgotten, obv and had no impact, but I don't know about BTW. BTW is part of the reason she was just honored at The Trevor Project conference thing. But the thing about this era, it seems, is that she's focusing more on her overall image than the music itself. Maybe that's the problem.
I actually agree with you on a lot of things. I don't hide behind this wall and think everything is okay. I just try to stay positive most of the time 'cause I don't see the point in being negative or constantly reiterating how bad something is.
Like I said Alejandro is in my top two. Don't twist what I said sista.
But lemme ask you something: You don't think she controls her career? You think if Interscope controlled things, she would have been allowed to do everything she did this era? |
I might look too focused on sales and charts, but that is what let her explore into a different area in this album. Do you think Interscope would had let her release Born This Way (the whole package) if she hadn't been as successful in her past eras? Nicole has pointed it out MANY times. She needs to find balance. You can be sure her next album won't be as preachy, and definitely more commercial instead.
|
|
|
|
Member Since: 3/20/2010
Posts: 3,485
|
Quote:
Originally posted by jprsardeto
No, they also know the word "negative". |
They even act like their mother: living halfway between fantasy and reality; even though some of them seem to be stuck in the fantasy side  .
|
|
|
|
|
|
