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Discussion: "Manufactured" Artists
Member Since: 9/18/2011
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Originally posted by Cap10Planet
Mariah didn't use sex appeal during her first two eras of her career. And regardless, Mariah is more known for her vocal abilities than her sex appeal.
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Her first two eras weren't her best though. And yes, she WAS more known for her vocals. It's not the case anymore.
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Is Kats really trying to pull off that
A) Katy isn't manufactured
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B) That OOTB was more party & not serious while TD is totally serious (  )
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Member Since: 12/28/2010
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Originally posted by Cheers
Her first two eras weren't her best though. And yes, she WAS more known for her vocals. It's not the case anymore.
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keep thinking that
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Originally posted by skyler
I know this because she not that type of person thats why . 
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And how the hell would you know that? 
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Member Since: 3/4/2011
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I happen to think The Fame and The Fame(M) Gaga is the perfect example of a manufactured act. I know this is going against what most people believe(mainly Gaga stans). Gaga to me, is the best manufactured act that has come along in a long time. Her BTW era is her own, The Fame and Fame(M) are all fake and carefully planned out.
Manufactured to me: A creation, a product. Lady Gaga is a product, a brilliant one at that. In a sense, every artist is manufactured, you can't say who is more or less but who is the better product.
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Member Since: 12/28/2010
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Originally posted by Cheers
And how the hell would you know that? |
I guess you never seen her live performances and pictures from each era 
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Member Since: 12/9/2007
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Here's an easy example: Kelly Clarkson's My December = not manufactured
Kelly Clarkson's All I Ever Wanted = manufactured
I think if you're record label is paying people to write/produce your songs so they can make some money, that means you're manufactured. That would go for Katy, Britney, Rihanna, Christina, recently P!nk.
Artists I wouldn't consider to be "manufactured" would be ones like Bey, GaGa, Ke$ha, Nicki, the ones that obviously have a say in the direction of their music. Those artists seem to be the ones that create trends and have a lot of say in the style/direction of their music.
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Member Since: 5/21/2009
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Originally posted by Kats
Thinking of You? Didn't make nearly the money all the other's have, yet she still decided to release it because it meant something to her. Firework, has no substance? The One That Got Away has no substance? Not Like The Movies has no substance? I will agree LFN and CG aren't really meaningful, but Katy has stated they aren't supposed to have meaning. There supposed to be fun songs to dance to, no more, no less.
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You've completely missed the point. It's not the meaning behind the song that gives an artist substance, it's the artist themselves. 
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Member Since: 9/13/2011
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Originally posted by BadBitch
but the difference Rihanna did it at time were being "edgy" wasn't the thing like it is today. There never was a black girl Popstar before Rihanna in 00's. Everyone else was R&B at the time successfully. So she took risk.
Jay-Z & Def Jam wanted to keep her that way but she eventually rebelled on her 3rd album and changed her entire image & sound. Unlike the other girls (Amerie & Terria Marie) at the time she took a chance. |
Right. Cutting ur hair off like Kelis and changing ur style similar to Victoria Beckham is a huge risk.
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Originally posted by skyler
I guess you never seen her live performances and pictures
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And that determines whether or not they sleep around? Okay....
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Member Since: 1/12/2011
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Originally posted by Hi.Def
How would you know that?
Being skinny doesn't mean you're in shape
Being heavier doesn't mean you're out of shape
You're assuming the smaller you are the the better your stage presence and performing skills will be, and that is definitely not true. I mean with all these skinny pop bitches onstage out of breathe just by walking from one end of the stage to the other how could you even think that? 
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No, you're assuming that. I am saying if she wasn't built and trained she wouldn't be as good of a performer. It is a fact that if Bey didn't have her body she wouldn't be a pleasure to watch on stage. I'm just saying if she isn't in shape she will not be as good or good at all on stage.
But, like I said, whatever.
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Member Since: 12/28/2010
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Originally posted by Cheers
And that determines whether or not they sleep around? Okay....
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okay bye 
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Member Since: 6/10/2010
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Originally posted by IWasHere
Right. Cutting ur hair off like Kelis and changing ur style similar to Victoria Beckham is a huge risk.
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Clearly you can't read I said SOUND too. There was no Black girl doing Pop/Dance music before Rihanna at the time. Let alone successfully.
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Originally posted by iBeyoncé.
I guess that means Missy Elliot is a horrible dancer. |
I'm not saying just because she will be fat OR skinny she would be a bad dancer. But because she isn't fit. I may be wrong for thinking if you're super skinny or fat you are out of shape and won't be as good to watch on stage.
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Member Since: 6/30/2011
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Originally posted by IfICannot Love♥
Is Kats really trying to pull off that
A) Katy isn't manufactured
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B) That OOTB was more party & not serious while TD is totally serious ( )
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The singles from both eras generally have the same tone, save for Thinking Of You. YSG, IKAG, HNC, WUIV, etc. are by no means serious. Teenage Dream singles are also that way as well. Most of the songs on the album are not party songs.
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Member Since: 10/7/2011
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Originally posted by Vertigo Stick
Okay sis, I'll take this one 
Come again 
So I am very confused. One of the Boys is about Katy being a teenage girl, but Teenage Dream is about Katy being a woman? That makes no sense. You have it reverse. Teenage Dream is the reenactment of her teenage years - the fun years. Which is what the album is about. Even a song like Hummingbird Heartbeat...which is about recreating the loss of her virginity (which she probably lost as a teen). The One That Got Away teenager years, title name teenage years, and a whole bunch of other songs. Some filler songs might disagree, but I do not see how TD is in any light more adult like in comparison to OOTB...especially since Katy actually wrote the former.
Born This Way is not generic. Sure, there might be a few songs tailored to top 40 listeners, but overall the direction of the album was not meant to appeal to the same masses that Katy and Kesha appeal to. If that were the case, then she would not have worked with some unknowns - but done the exact opposite. That is what generic artists do. They work with the big guns to produce the big hits. |
No, I don't even think your trying to understand. OOTB is about being young, getting lost, partying, struggling with relationships. TD is about feeling you have it all, like your in a "dream", love stories, some party fun, self-empowerment. It is far more "mature" despite the pop candy theme, even though she only really carries that for California Gurls and other party songs. No, the album isn't all about her teenage years. TOTGA was about a past relationship, doesn't tie it to teenage years. Katy did write this album, how many times must you be told before you get that? Because she had help she is shunned.
In a sense, again, IMO, the theme is .You can't tell me my opinion isn't what it is, because it is what it is. Again, you don't know what Katy's goal was in this album. Sure, was some of the production towards that audience? Sure, but the majority of the album was not. Yawn, I'm tired of this argument, yours isn't changing and neither is mine.
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Member Since: 6/1/2010
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The fact that Rihanna went from Rated R to Loud within a year proves how manufactured that girl is. She is one of the most manufactured artists of our generation.
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Member Since: 11/24/2009
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Originally posted by Cap10Planet
The fact that Rihanna went from Rated R to Loud within a year proves how manufactured that girl is. She is one of the most manufactured artists of our generation.
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And the thread catches fire again.
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Originally posted by Allie
The singles from both eras generally have the same tone, save for Thinking Of You. YSG, IKAG, HNC, WUIV, etc. are by no means serious. Teenage Dream singles are also that way as well. Most of the songs on the album are not party songs.
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Oh... Okay.
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Member Since: 6/4/2010
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Originally posted by crumprKID
No, you're assuming that. I am saying if she wasn't built and trained she wouldn't be as good of a performer.
But, like I said, whatever.
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You are assuming. The other pop gerls are even smaller than Beyoncé and about 95% of them can't perform to save their lives. You're not making any sense. Her weight is not the issue. She could be large and in charge and still serve because she's built up the stamina and trained for years to do so. A lot of famous choreographers aren't even super skinny.
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