[Drais.]

Originally posted by Cheers

Would they be as successful though?

Existing in the music industry =/= Being successful

Gaga never built her career around being attractive anyway.

Moving on both girls would still be in the industry regardless because they actually have vocal talent. They actually have performance talent. Unfortunately I can't say the same about all of the gerls though.

[skyler]

Originally posted by D.M.F

Xtina barely has any manufactured qualities. She's truly 1 bad bitch.

they know not to come for xtina

[BadBitch]

All i know is Rihanna is not manufactured. No label puppet goes from innocent Carribean Beyonce clone to rebelling and cutting their hair short black, wearing edgy cloth and changing their whole sound.

[crumprKID]

Originally posted by Hi.Def

Even if you took away Beyoncé's looks and body she'd still have her performance skills and vocals. The same applies to Lady Gaga.

I never stated Katy would be the only one to fade if you took away her good looks, but out of most of the poplar female artists of today when it comes to redeeming musical qualities Katy is at the bottom.

Without the body, Bey won't be able to dance and would have the same level of stage presence. Her and Gaga would just be vocalist. But Gaga can play instruments.

That's arguable. I'd say it would be Rihanna or JB. You are acting like Katy ISN'T a good song-writer and a good vocalist.

[Cap10Planet]

Originally posted by BadBitch

All i know is Rihanna is not manufactured. No label puppet goes from innocent Carribean Beyonce clone to rebelling and cutting their hair short black, wearing edgy cloth and changing their whole sound.

[Blood Orange Sun]

Originally posted by Hi.Def

Is that huge hit I Kissed A Girl? Hot girls kissing on other girls?

You're saying if Katy were ugly, she wouldn't exist, but my point is her image was not being vastly emphasized to sell in IKAG (like something along the lines of the California Gurls vid that flaunted her sexuality in a significant way) so I wouldn't exactly credit her looks for making it...

[TheMusicProphet]

Originally posted by Hi.Def

Existing in the music industry =/= Being successful

Gaga never built her career around being attractive anyway.

Moving on both girls would still be in the industry regardless because they actually have vocal talent. They actually have performance talent. Unfortunately I can't say the same about all of the gerls though.

I agree.

[Belle]

Originally posted by BadBitch

All i know is Rihanna is not manufactured. No label puppet goes from innocent Carribean Beyonce clone to rebelling and cutting their hair short black, wearing edgy cloth and changing their whole sound.

You should look into how quick kpop groups go through image phases. It'll change your opinion of such a thing, I promise. Edgy can be perfectly fake because it sells.

[C/H/A/N/E/L]

Too lazy to read 8 pages of it. All I'm gonna say is...

If you wanna listen to manufactured, turn on some Top 40.

[Vin]

Originally posted by BadBitch

All i know is Rihanna is not manufactured. No label puppet goes from innocent Carribean Beyonce clone to rebelling and cutting their hair short black, wearing edgy cloth and changing their whole sound.

Unless Jay-Z tells you to.

...Vin

[CaptainMusic]

Originally posted by Nicole

So wait, now Lady Gaga, the "tranny" whose looks everyone is always mocking (just look at SYG right now), is actually famous for those looks? Which is it?

When gaga first started off she wasn't anywhere near as ugly as she is now, she did look kind of pretty. Gaga has never been HIDEOUS, and can actually look decent when she's ready. The truth is that if beyonce, gaga, katy, kesha, rihanna, britney and MOST of the popular pop girls out there today were ugly (and i'm talking hideous) wouldn't be anywhere near as big as they are today regardless of their 'abilities'.

[Vertigo Stick]

Originally posted by Kats

Katy was successful with OOTB, so to even say she saw others trending and wanted to be that successful is stupid when she already one. Everyone changes, Katy has said multiple times that her age difference has influenced her greatly, OOTB is more party girl, TD is more about real life and love stories. Her next album will be totally different. And BTW wasn't generic? Please, go do your thing on someone else.

This whole entire post. I don't even know where to start

I'll start from the beginning

Of course Katy was successful with OOTB, and it is great that she switched it up, but that album seemed to more in her true nature than Teenage Dream. And no, it is not stupid to claim that Katy's label saw other trends and followed because that is what happened. Katy Perry did the party song with I Kissed A Girl, this is true, but it is pretty evident that Teenage Animal was meant to follow trends - not start any. The album is just like everything out today. California Girls sounding like Tik Toc is the best example.

And how in the world is OOTB more party girl than TD? OOTB, if anything, is more personal with songs like 'Lost,' 'I'm Still Breathing,' and 'Thinking of You.' TD was tailored to the party crowd, 'need some goose to get loose, c'mon take a shot' ' and other examples.

So BTW is generic now? Yes, because Dr. Luke produced all the generically formulated hits on the album. You and I is a song about getting wasted set to a wannabe LMFAO beat.

You are so embarrassing to the kitty kats

[Cheers]

Originally posted by Hi.Def

Existing in the music industry =/= Being successful

Gaga never built her career around being attractive anyway.

Moving on both girls would still be in the industry regardless because they actually have vocal talent. They actually have performance talent. Unfortunately I can't say the same about all of the gerls though.

Since when did having vocal talent reserve you a spot in the music industry?

And you can't put Gaga & Beyonce on the same level. Beyonce would still be able to sing, but Gaga could sing, play instruments, write songs on her own. etc.

[Drais.]

Originally posted by crumprKID

Without the body, Bey won't be able to dance and would have the same level of stage presence. Her and Gaga would just be vocalist. But Gaga can play instruments.

That's arguable. I'd say it would be Rihanna or JB. You are acting like Katy ISN'T a good song-writer and a good vocalist.

Are you serious? We have plenty of skinny and in shape pop starts who don't even attempt to move onstage so

Plenty of heavy set people can perform and dance their asses off.

I didn't say Katy wasn't a good singer or song writer but when she gets mention it's not like people are raving and ranting over her songwriting or voice. They're mostly mentioning her looks or huge breasts.

[crumprKID]

Originally posted by Nicole

So wait, now Lady Gaga, the "tranny" whose looks everyone is always mocking (just look at SYG right now), is actually famous for those looks? Which is it?

During the Fame days she was very pretty. And don't forget she has and always had an amazing body. Her musical talents and image over-shadow that now.

[Vin]

Originally posted by Hi.Def

Existing in the music industry =/= Being successful

Gaga never built her career around being attractive anyway.

Moving on both girls would still be in the industry regardless because they actually have vocal talent. They actually have performance talent. Unfortunately I can't say the same about all of the gerls though.

She wasn't exactly hideous in "Just Dance" and "Poker Face." So,
yes, she did build her career around being attractive... and then
diverged into "Alejandro" and "Born This Way."

...Vin

[CaptainMusic]

Anyway i'll be non-delusional and admit that britney is (kind of) manufactured. She wouldn't be if her label just let her do what she wants to.

[Drais.]

Originally posted by Cheers

Since when did having vocal talent reserve you a spot in the music industry?

And you can't put Gaga & Beyonce on the same level. Beyonce would still be able to sing, but Gaga could sing, play instruments, write songs on her own. etc.

Vocal talent actually started a lot of unknown careers. The same goes for songwriting. Besides you quoted me first grouping them together so I responded appropriately. Beyoncé & Gaga both have multiple things to fall on while most of the other gerls simply wouldn't exist if they weren't attractive. It IS what it IS.

Stop quoting me.

[Playboy]

Its amusing how big Katy Perry's fanbase has grown in a year....... I don't remember this chick having this many fans at least not on ATRL before.

[C/H/A/N/E/L]

This thread is turning into some SYG ****. It's gonna get LAWKED if y'all don't keep it cute.

Originally posted by Kats

Katy was successful with OOTB, so to even say she saw others trending and wanted to be that successful is stupid when she already one. Everyone changes, Katy has said multiple times that her age difference has influenced her greatly, OOTB is more party girl, TD is more about real life and love stories. Her next album will be totally different. And BTW wasn't generic? Please, go do your thing on someone else.

You've got your albums mixed up, honey.