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Discussion: Let's talk about the 2011-2012 Grammy Awards
Member Since: 2/26/2006
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Originally posted by TheGeoKing
Too bad the grammy's are all messed up and he won't win.
It sucks that real talent will go unnoticed.
Metacritic
MBDTF: 94
21: 76
#oops
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WTF?
If Adele isn't real talent then I don't know what it is. 76 is a great score by the way.
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Member Since: 10/3/2010
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Originally posted by Cap10Planet
So, Adele isn't talented because her album hasn't gotten a higher score on Metacritic than Kanye's? WTF? Since when does critical reviews determine talent? If Adele wins, talent wouldn't go unnoticed. If you are debating reviews and artistic merit, then argue that. But arguing talent when it comes to Adele and Kanye is futile. A 94 on Metacritc =/= more talent. It just means that critics favored the album more.
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Originally posted by Green
WTF?
If Adele isn't real talent then I don't know what it is. 76 is a great score by the way.
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What I meant was that 21 is going to win just because Adele is the next big star even though the album does not deserve it whatsoever. She is talented, yes, but that album is not that great and definitely no where near MBDTF at all. Every song is about her getting betrayed by some boy or the other way around. I didn't mean to say Adele isn't talented.
I was reading some of the reviews and it makes sense why it only got a 76.
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NOW Magazine
Adele's husky, powerful voice is what keeps you listening, but here's hoping she experiences something besides betrayal before writing her next record.
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PopMatters
If 21 feels, on the whole, like an object lesson in how to indulge in easily avoided mistakes, the most trenchant criticism of the album comes not from anything that will end up being written about it, but rather from its final song.
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Uncut
Adele is repeatedly cast as the heartbroken survivor. That role serves to foreground her mighty impressive vocals, but also encourage the showboating overkill that is a staple of the X Factor generation.
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Originally posted by beyoncefan1
Geo stays hopping on Kanye's dick. 
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And you're always here 
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Member Since: 10/30/2010
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For album of the year Kanye deserves to win, no doubt. His album is a true masterpiece. Each and every song is flawless in pretty much all aspects.
ADELE will probably take it, though. Her hype is just too much. Critical acclaim + the best selling? There's no way to beat that.
Taylor getting nominated wouldn't surprise me at all but neither would her being snubbed.
Beyonce won't get a nom and I don't see GaGa getting one either with the way things are going.
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Member Since: 6/1/2010
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Well, if Kanye wants to win, then he will have to play the game like everyone else. There are over 13,000 NARAS voters and not all of them will sit up there and read every review to determine if something is good - because let's face it, everyone has his or her own taste and does not need a critic to tell them what's good or bad. Critics are people with opinions, too.  Kanye hasn't promoted much this era, so it would be his own fault if he loses.
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Member Since: 10/3/2010
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Originally posted by Cap10Planet
Well, if Kanye wants to win, then he will have to play the game like everyone else. There are over 13,000 NARAS voters and not all of them will sit up there and read every review to determine if something is good - because let's face it, everyone has his or her own taste and do not need a critic to tell them what's good or bad. Critics are people with opinions, too.  Kanye hasn't promoted much this era, so it would be his own fault if he loses.
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Which is why the grammy's are ********  They are not really picking the best winners. They are picking winners based on commercial success which should not be a factor in the process of deciding what the "Album of the Year" is. Those 13,000 NARAS voters will eat up Adele's little album and she will easily win, even though her then "Album of the Year" will not really be the "Album of the Year" 
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Member Since: 11/5/2009
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Originally posted by Rockstar101
BEST RAP/SUNG COLLABORATION:
I see PARTY (ft/ Andre 3000 & Kanye West) being nominated and maybe even winning. Both the featured artists haven't recognized by the Grammy's in years and Bey is always a shoe in nomination in that category.
WHAT'S MY NAME could be nominated because it was the biggest rap-sung song this year, and Rihanna has won in that category twice before... although they may nominate ALL OF THE LIGHTS? and kill several birds with one stone; making it tougher to recognize the winners.
I hope FRANK OCEAN gets some kind of love, with Nostalgia, ULTRA being re-released on the 26
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Was I making sense?
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Member Since: 6/15/2011
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Kanye deserves it, but it won't happen.
He had like 8 noms. and lost Best New Artist to Maroon 5, I don't see how he could beat Adele after being probably the biggest artist this year.
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Member Since: 6/1/2010
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Originally posted by TheGeoKing
Which is why the grammy's are ********  They are not really picking the best winners. They are picking winners based on commercial success which should not be a factor in the process of deciding what the "Album of the Year" is. Those 13,000 NARAS voters will eat up Adele's little album and she will easily win, even though her then "Album of the Year" will not really be the "Album of the Year" 
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All awards are ********; actors campaign for Oscars.  Also, Kanye would disagree with you. He said the best selling album should always win Album of the Year on several occasions. 
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Member Since: 6/12/2011
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born his way will win BEST ALBUM definitely....
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Member Since: 9/21/2010
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Originally posted by Cap10Planet
So, Adele isn't talented because her album hasn't gotten a higher score on Metacritic than Kanye's? WTF? Since when does critical reviews determine talent? If Adele wins, talent wouldn't go unnoticed. If you are debating reviews and artistic merit, then argue that. But arguing talent when it comes to Adele and Kanye is futile. A 94 on Metacritc =/= more talent. It just means that critics favored the album more.
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But you still can''t deny that Kanye's album is stronger than Adele's. That's clearly what the poster wanted to say but through bad diction and vague expressions.
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Member Since: 10/3/2010
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Originally posted by loghen
Kanye deserves it, but it won't happen.
He had like 8 noms. and lost Best New Artist to Maroon 5, I don't see how he could beat Adele after being probably the biggest artist this year.
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Agree.
 Maroon 5? Where are they now?
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Originally posted by Cap10Planet
All awards are ********; actors campaign for Oscars.  Also, Kanye would disagree with you. He said the best selling album should always win Album of the Year on several occasions. 
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 He probably only said that because he was mad that he didn't win and his album was the best selling one.
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Originally posted by Rockstar101
Was I making sense?
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Yes. Party will win if it gets released as a single most likely.
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Originally posted by lilMonsterKayla
born his way will win BEST ALBUM definitely....
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Hah. No 
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Member Since: 6/1/2010
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Well, he should have said that. Because Adele has "real talent" just like Kanye does. And yes, Kanye has the better album.
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Member Since: 6/1/2010
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Originally posted by TheGeoKing
Agree.
 Maroon 5? Where are they now?
 He probably only said that because he was mad that he didn't win and his album was the best selling one.
Yes. Party will win if it gets released as a single most likely.
Hah. No 
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He said Usher should have won in 2005 because he had the best selling album when he was contending, but they gave it to Ray Charles. He also said Justin Bieber should have taken Best New Artist because he sold well. 
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And Maroon 5 just had a hit last year and album went gold. They are still releasing music and finding success. Let's not get ahead of ourselves with the stanism.
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Member Since: 11/2/2009
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When submitting a nomination for BNA, it helps to have a hit and a critical acclaimed album, right?
Is it possible for (and God forbid) Waka Flocka to be nominated, he has the hit a the critics.
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Member Since: 6/12/2011
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Originally posted by TheGeoKing
Agree.
 Maroon 5? Where are they now?
 He probably only said that because he was mad that he didn't win and his album was the best selling one.
Yes. Party will win if it gets released as a single most likely.
Hah. No 
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why NO? every song rox and she selled 1 million first week MORE THEN TAYLOR..just saying. also "HAH' was rude and your pic avatar is really ******...
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Member Since: 10/3/2010
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Originally posted by Deemy
But you still can''t deny that Kanye's album is stronger than Adele's. That's clearly what the poster wanted to say but through bad diction and vague expressions.
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Thanks
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Originally posted by Cap10Planet
He said Usher should have won in 2005 because he had the best selling album when he was contending, but they gave it to Ray Charles. He also said Justin Bieber should have taken Best New Artist because he sold well. 
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Justin Bieber, really?  I never heard about that  it must have been one of those "in the moment" things, I hope.  And what does it matter if Kanye disagrees with me? I have my own opinion too right? My opinion doesn't have to match the opinion of an artist I like.
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Member Since: 9/6/2006
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Originally posted by TheGeoKing
And you're always here 
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Says the one who has 70+ posts a day. 
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Member Since: 11/2/2009
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Originally posted by lilMonsterKayla
born his way will win BEST ALBUM definitely....
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Cute. 
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Member Since: 10/3/2010
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Originally posted by lilMonsterKayla
why NO? every song rox and she selled 1 million first week MORE THEN TAYLOR..just saying. also "HAH' was rude and your pic avatar is really ******...
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Becuase it's just not. She doesn't have the sales like Adele and the album was received not as well as Adele's. Duh the pic in my avatar is ****** I made it on gifsoup  I can't afford photoshop like you 
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