[The Ri-son!]

Originally posted by MrPeanut

But if we're talking about women who were able to attain massive popularity and leave their mark without being controversial, then Whitney definitely fits the bill. Her image was entirely wholesome throughout her active career.

yes your right but thats all hypothetical. Without all the drama Whitney could very well still be the legend she is today but that's not how it all played out.

[BnPac]

Originally posted by Haus_of_Nicole

There are so many women, like Oprah, who invalidate this statement. It doesn't say pop stars, btw.

So many women indeed. I hate how people keep falling in that idea that a woman has to degrade herself to be heard or to be known. It is just not true and it sends the wrong idea. And where in the tweet, is it written that it only applies to popstars?

Grace Kelly, Barbara Straisand, Audrey Hepburn, Meryl Streep, Aretha franklin, Sade, Oprah, Claudia Shiffer and a lot others.

[MrPeanut]

Originally posted by The Ri-son!

yes your right but thats all hypothetical. Without all the drama Whitney could very well still be the legend she is today but that's not how it all played out.

Whitney would not have been forgotten if she'd simply retired with no addiction drama, lol. She's one of the best-selling artists in history.

[Monster]

Originally posted by Deemy

Whitney is not well behaved. And she never said that you cant make history if u are good. She uses the word "Seldom" which means not often.

I know it said seldom. But there are many more exceptions to that which invalidates the statement entirely.

When Whitney was smashing records and making history she was well behaved.

[clairebear23]

Most artists are not well behaved. Research music history Creative artists are usually the outcasts.

[Last Boy on Earth]

Originally posted by skyler_

ignore list I will use then

[Monster]

Originally posted by clairebear23

Oh.... So i'm guessing anyone who makes popular music for the masses, who charts on any pop chart is a pop star. Interesting, I must say.
Many artists would disagree.

That's not what was said. Stop putting words in my posts.

But duh, of course if you make popular music for the masses you are a pop star.

[Beyond Say]

Mariah Carey (Pre- Glitter)

[KoreanDream]

Originally posted by BnPac

So many women indeed. I hate how people keep falling in that idea that a woman has to degrade herself to be heard or to be known. It is just not true and it sends the wrong idea. And where in the tweet, is it written that it only applies to popstars?

Grace Kelly, Barbara Straisand, Audrey Hepburn, Meryl Streep, Aretha franklin, Sade, Oprah, Claudia Shiffer and a lot others.

Are you implying that women who are not well-behaved like Rihanna are degrading themselves in the process?

[skyler]

Originally posted by Beyond Say

Mariah Carey (Pre- Glitter)

ok

[Deemy]

Originally posted by Monster

I know it said seldom. But there are many more exceptions to that which invalidates the statement entirely.

When Whitney was smashing records and making history she was well behaved.

But her bad behaviour overpowers her good. Im sure a ten year old now would recognize for her drug use and drama with Bobby Brown because that's all the media focuses on. It's not like MJ where even a 6 year old can tell you he was the King Of Pop or the best performer of all time.

[Cobato]

Originally posted by BadBitchRihanna.

I love Rihanna but No, i don't agree. You don't have to act this way just to have an impact but that's her prerogative i guess.

Yep I agree.

[The Ri-son!]

some of you are treating this statement like its an insult. Its not a crime to be a little bad sheesh, nor does it invalidate your legacy

[BnPac]

Originally posted by KoreanDream

Are you implying that women who are not well-behaved like Rihanna are degrading themselves in the process?

No don't put words in my mouth. I just explain what the is the aim of that quote.
And if a woman will be to decide to became all ****ty just because she believes in that quote then very much yes.

[Monster]

Originally posted by Deemy

But her bad behaviour overpowers her good. Im sure a ten year old now would recognize for her drug use and drama with Bobby Brown because that's all the media focuses on. It's not like MJ where even a 6 year old can tell you he was the King Of Pop or the best performer of all time.

She has bad press now, but when she was making history that's not what she was known for. Same thing with Michael. Whitney is not going down in the history books for her cocaine addiction.

[Deemy]

Originally posted by The Ri-son!

some of you are treating this statement like its an insult. Its not a crime to be a little bad sheesh, nor does it invalidate your legacy

But it's not like she tweeted it. That statement has been around for ages just like "nice guys finish last". She's probably putting it up as a rebellious attack to the PTC and people who are on her case lately.

[The Ri-son!]

Originally posted by MrPeanut

Whitney would not have been forgotten if she'd simply retired with no addiction drama, lol. She's one of the best-selling artists in history.

once again I agree with you but did her 'bad behavior' invalidate her accomplishments? so its not the end of the world to be known as 'bad'

[The Ri-son!]

Originally posted by Deemy

But it's not like she tweeted it. That statement has been around for ages just like "nice guys finish last". She's probably putting it up as a rebellious attack to the PTC and people who are on her case lately.

I know...the girls doin the most per usual

[MrPeanut]

Originally posted by The Ri-son!

once again I agree with you but did her 'bad behavior' invalidate her accomplishments? so its not the end of the world to be known as 'bad'

Yes, but the implication of the quote is that it's the bad behavior which gains you the notoriety that makes history. That was not the case with Whitney. The only reason her drug problems got so much press was because she was such a huge star with a wholesome image in the first place.

[BnPac]

Originally posted by Deemy

But her bad behaviour overpowers her good. Im sure a ten year old now would recognize for her drug use and drama with Bobby Brown because that's all the media focuses on. It's not like MJ where even a 6 year old can tell you he was the King Of Pop or the best performer of all time.

What? That is not true;
It is just like when some people said that people only remember for his crazy habits.
Her drugs stories never overshadow the impact of her voice in people's heart and never will ever. And why are we talking about 10 years ol kids, the thing about being kids is that we understand things wrongly, so If they do so what? That means nothing.
The point is Whitney was bigger of a star and a legend when everyone taught she was well behaved.