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Discussion: Why Billboard Isn't Revising Chart Policies for Lady Gaga
Member Since: 3/12/2011
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Originally posted by Shame♥
Aren't Britney stans trying to get #BillboardCorrupt to trend? Get over it. 
I hope Amazon offers Beyonce the same deal next month.  |
i believe Amazon will start doing this for any artist they believe can bring in monumental sales. They probably won't do it for a while though, because they might get new attention but they still come out on a lost.
Marketing 101- sometime you have to suffer losses to gain profit.
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Member Since: 10/29/2010
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She'll break the record fair and square 
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Member Since: 11/7/2009
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I'm not really giving a **** about Gaga sales, and deserving sales might I say...
But some Britney fans are mad cause they wish JIVE/Amazon had this deal so FF wouldn't be flopping so hard? 
I'm not buying Born This Way cause I don't want to, Although I love the album, which I *illegally downloaded*, but I've honestly considered buying it when I saw the .99 offer, but I'm waiting for a future 1 cent deal. 
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Member Since: 8/3/2010
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Originally posted by Green
There was a rule change in 2007 the week that Blackout was released. You are the one that need to read the article.
Billboard had a standing policy against including releases that were only sold through one retailer in our chart. The Eagles released their "Long Road Out of Eden" album exclusively at Wal-Mart, a retailer that had not previously reported its exclusive titles to Billboard and Nielsen SoundScan. At the last minute, Wal-Mart, under pressure from the Eagles camp, reported sales figures, and it became clear that the Eagles had sold nearly twice as many copies of their album as had Britney. The powers-that-be (of which I was not one at the time) decided to make a policy switch because they felt the best decision was to allow for the most accurate chart. I'm not going to go back and second-guess that, but I will repeat: I don't believe in making a policy change that will affect the same week's charts.
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Most importantly, I don't believe in changing or adding a rule in order to affect that week's charts. Now I know right away some of you -- again, Britney fans, we're communicating here -- will ask about what happened three-and-a-half years ago during the week of Britney's "Blackout" album release. In that case, Billboard had a standing policy against including releases that were only sold through one retailer in our chart.
Nope
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Member Since: 10/29/2010
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Billboard made a great point. it's ok for artist and their label to discount to sell their tracks for 0.69 to become #1, but it's not ok to do what Amazon did, which is not discounted by the label?
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Member Since: 4/6/2011
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Originally posted by TheOnlyOne
I don't know why they go by copies sold, as opposed to money spent. That seems like the most simple and easiest solution. There should be no threshold for what should and shouldn't be counted, in terms of price, because bought music is bought music.
However, for example (just making up #'s here), as opposed to Gaga getting credit 350,000 copies sold for $1 on Amazon, plus 700,000 for those bought in stores/iTunes for $14 or so, she should instead be credited for $350,000 worth sold on Amazon plus the $9.8 mill for those sold at the $14 price, etc. It makes so much more sense, and is more fair this way.
And this is not just about Gaga. I still think it's ******** that Jackie Evancho or whoever debuted on the Billboard 200 above Rihanna when her album was nearly 1/3 of the cost that Loud was. I'm sure it's affected other artists, as well. If people are spending $14 on one album, but only $5 on another, the one that made more money should receive more credit when it comes to Billboard figures.
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now do u understand why Britney fans are mad? it really isnt fair to all other artists. its like a slap in the face. 
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Member Since: 8/3/2010
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Originally posted by Vini
I'm not really giving a **** about Gaga sales, and deserving sales might I say...
But some Britney fans are mad cause they wish JIVE/Amazon had this deal so FF wouldn't be flopping so hard?
I'm not buying Born This Way cause I don't want to, Although I love the album, which I *illegally downloaded*, but I've honestly considered buying it when I saw the .99 offer, but I'm waiting for a future 1 cent deal. |
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Member Since: 11/6/2009
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Originally posted by Patrick
As tacky as it is for Britney fans to bombard him with requests that the rules be changed and Gaga be robbed of her potentially record breaking week of sales, I find it in bad taste that he would muddy this otherwise well-written article with petty jabs.
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You have to give him a break though, there comes a point where enough is enough and they needed to be singled out. I'm sure Billboard editors don't in any way appreciate being called corrupt on their personal Twitter accounts.
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Member Since: 4/6/2011
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Originally posted by Vini
I'm not really giving a **** about Gaga sales, and deserving sales might I say...
But some Britney fans are mad cause they wish JIVE/Amazon had this deal so FF wouldn't be flopping so hard?
I'm not buying Born This Way cause I don't want to, Although I love the album, which I *illegally downloaded*, but I've honestly considered buying it when I saw the .99 offer, but I'm waiting for a future 1 cent deal. |
omg sis this has NOTHING to do with FF! it has to do with the total disregard of all other regular priced albums!
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Member Since: 4/20/2011
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As we reported today, Amazon.com has spent literally millions of dollars buying the Gaga album from the Universal Music Group and Interscope at the standard wholesale cost of $8.40, and then selling it to fans for $.99.
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For those who keep saying it was Gaga's initiative 
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Member Since: 3/18/2008
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Originally posted by DG1
She'll break the record fair and square |
Gerl...
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Member Since: 8/18/2010
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Originally posted by German Hooker
The fact that he had to mention those Britney-"Fans" a couple of times... Embarrassing!
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No, it's not.
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His predecessor is wrong for changing the rules last minute that will take effect within that same week, why would we be embarrass of that.
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Member Since: 5/10/2010
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Give me 30 minutes and I will rip Billboard a new one.
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Member Since: 11/14/2008
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bwerde bill werde
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@HarrySapphire @Billboarddotcom @LadyGaga hate gets blocked. Bye Harry.
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I SEE YOU HARRY!!!! 
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bwerde bill werde
Its funny how @ladygaga and @britneyspears fans hate each other. Its like ppl frm NJ and long island hate each other, bc they are the same.
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INTERESTING!!!! 
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Member Since: 11/7/2009
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Originally posted by RatedG
Most importantly, I don't believe in changing or adding a rule in order to affect that week's charts. Now I know right away some of you -- again, Britney fans, we're communicating here -- will ask about what happened three-and-a-half years ago during the week of Britney's "Blackout" album release. In that case, Billboard had a standing policy against including releases that were only sold through one retailer in our chart.
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I'm not sure what you're neglecting, but THERE WAS a chart changing policy which affected the ranking of Britney's "Blackout", 24 hours after Billboard, ITSELF, announced "Blackout" was #1, they released an statement saying they revised their rules and it was no longer #1.
It even got major media backlash...
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Member Since: 11/3/2010
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Originally posted by uclaboi2003
now do u understand why Britney fans are mad? it really isnt fair to all other artists. its like a slap in the face. |
Sorry, but Britney fans have no right to be mad. Artists who's album was only sold through on retailer were the ones being shaded, not Britney.
They sold double what Blackout did, so they obviously deserved the #1 spot. Yeah, Billboard's rule change came at a bad time for Britney, but you honestly think it would've been more fair for The Eagles (who I know not one song by, so this is not biased) to have not been granted the top position when they sold 700,000+ copies? Sorry, Blackout is my favorite Britney album by far, and one of my top 5 albums of all time, but Britney fans are wrong on this one.
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Member Since: 10/29/2010
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Yall will not come for Jacki Evancho's wig... It was only 4 songs, hence the price, but she still snatched wigs.
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Member Since: 11/7/2009
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I don't see how Amazon bought Born This Way copies in "wholesale" for $8.4 each when there's no such a thing as "wholesale" for digital products
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Member Since: 8/2/2010
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It's time for Billboard to right the wrong they did with Britney...maybe then her fans would shut the **** up about it. Billboard knew it was shady when they pulled it, and that is why it was discussed.
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Member Since: 3/18/2008
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Originally posted by Vini
I don't see how Amazon bought Born This Way copies in "wholesale" for $8.4 when there's no such a thing as "wholesale" for digital products |
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