[PopFan]

Originally posted by spree

but it should be said that Judas isn't selling on its own merit. It needs to be promoted to sell well. Some songs don't need to be promoted and they still sell thru the roof.

I agree with you

[KRL]

Originally posted by spree

Some songs don't need to be promoted and they still sell thru the roof.

This is not true by the way... there are no songs that can sell for a long time without being promoted. if the general public doesn't know about a song, it can't sell

[spree]

E.T. didn't have any promotion and it was a digital #1 for 5 weeks. American Idol doesn't count because that late in the game after those 5 weeks.

I think the "internet public" is more than 20% of the iTunes buying market. All the radio listeners have heard it. Everyone has a Facebook these days, and if you "like" Gaga, you've seen it posted on your wall then. Now, not everyone has twitter, I'll agree to that. But everyone has Facebook. And doesn't she have 20M followers on Facebook?

[Chrïs.]

I haven't heard Judas once on radio yet. It's a 2nd single, it needs a little push. Give it some time.

[PopFan]

Originally posted by Chris101

I haven't heard Judas once on radio yet. It's a 2nd single, it needs a little push. Give it some time.

Well, even without airplay it should be at least top 10

It's one of my fave from her...

[KRL]

Originally posted by spree

E.T. didn't have any promotion and it was a digital #1 for 5 weeks. American Idol doesn't count because that late in the game after those 5 weeks.

I think the "internet public" is more than 20% of the iTunes buying market. All the radio listeners have heard it. Everyone has a Facebook these days, and if you "like" Gaga, you've seen it posted on your wall then. Now, not everyone has twitter, I'll agree to that. But everyone has Facebook. And doesn't she have 20M followers on Facebook?

Et is the most played song in the country and has been in the top 5 for months, what are you talking about?

Not everyone spends their lives on facebook to catch a message from Gaga. people just log in a couple of times in a day to check their inbox. People on the internet are not the main buyers - that's why only songs with massive airplay can be in the itunes top 10

[Pretty. Odd.]

We're a long way from being able to give a final verdict on Judas, but all things considered, it is underperforming. It will be interesting to see what effect next week's promo will have on it

[Pretty. Odd.]

Originally posted by KRL

Et is the most played song in the country and has been in the top 5 for months, what are you talking about?

Not everyone spends their lives on facebook to catch a message from Gaga. people just log in a couple of times in a day to check their inbox. People on the internet are not the main buyers - that's why only songs with massive airplay can be in the itunes top 10

Keep in mind that E.T. had high sales before it had high airplay. It wasn't the number one digital song when airplay was low, but it was in the top ten for most of its chart run

[KRL]

Originally posted by Pretty. Odd.

Keep in mind that E.T. had high sales before it had high airplay. It wasn't the number one digital song when airplay was low, but it was in the top ten for most of its chart run

Ok I'm in now way trying to downgrade its massive success, but it was a known song with airplay and katy released a remix with kanye and you how those features always work. I'm just trying to say that songs can't be in the top 10 for a long time if they don't get promotion and internet fan bases are not the main buyers. remixes + huge airplay + video is all promotion

[spree]

E.T. hasn't left the top 5 since they pulled the remix. Then the original jumped to the top 5, the remix was replaced, and suddenly she had 2 versions in the top 3. And this is without any performances or interviews. Her AI performance basically did nothing, though.

But i will attest that the video helped tremendously, and yea, that's promotion. It's a fantastic video.

will be interesting to see the Judas video on American Idol for sure.

[bobbymfw]

Originally posted by Pretty. Odd.

Keep in mind that E.T. had high sales before it had high airplay. It wasn't the number one digital song when airplay was low, but it was in the top ten for most of its chart run

The only time it left the top ten was during Capitol's "abduction."

[highwind44029]

Originally posted by KRL

look at the current itunes top 5 - all of these songs are top 10 on airplay and have been performed at least once

The Lazy Song has barely even scratched Top 20 on airplay, and its one performance was back in February during the single's release. *shrugs* Just wanted to brag.

[KRL]

Originally posted by highwind44029

The Lazy Song has barely even scratched Top 20 on airplay, and its one performance was back in February during the single's release. *shrugs* Just wanted to brag.

It has a video

[Яeo.]

14. Price Tag
15. Judas

[highwind44029]

Originally posted by KRL

It has a video

A cheap one. My point was not all in the Top 5 right now have booming airplay or a recent performance that helped them get up there. TLS had little hype when it was released as a single, in fact his NBA performance didn't even shoot it into the Top 20. It was only when Grenade started dying on radio that TLS started to move up, so maybe the same will happen to Judas when BTW's not taking the attention that it should be getting.

[Tomas_Lajza]

Judas has banner for another week?

[PopFan]

5. Blow
637. Blow

Next one on her hit list

[Яeo.]

Originally posted by spree

E.T. didn't have any promotion and it was a digital #1 for 5 weeks. American Idol doesn't count because that late in the game after those 5 weeks.

You do know that radio play is the biggest form of promotion, right?

[highwind44029]

9. Look At Me Now (feat. Lil Wayne & Busta Rhymes) - Chris Brown
10. Who Says - Selena Gomez & The Scene

I'm very impressed by the stability of these two songs in the Top 10, that it was actually Gaga and Britney who were kicked out of the Top 10 when Ke$ha and Tinie came for wigs (although Britney's in the Top 10 combined, but still...)

[Apollo21]

Originally posted by Tomas_Lajza

Judas has banner for another week?

Why's it still out of the top 10 then?