[Queen Bea.]

Originally posted by ****y On Venus

If the issue of abortion is being discussed between two potential parents, than that father has every rright to giove his opinion.

But you can't place judgments about abortion if it pertains to a complete stranger whom you know nothing about.

Where does a man have the right to tell millions of women what do with their bodies?

Exactly.

[RatedG²]

Originally posted by ****y On Venus

If the issue of abortion is being discussed between two potential parents, than that father has every rright to giove his opinion.

But you can't place judgments about abortion if it pertains to a complete stranger whom you know nothing about.

Where does a man have the right to tell millions of women what do with their bodies?

I see what you mean now.

I'm pro-choice too, but I was just saying that men shouldn't be totally ignorant on the topic of abortion

[Mani.]

Originally posted by RatedG

Now this is absolutely ignorant.

Men do care about the lives of other humans, it isn't exclusive to women. And besides, what if the man and woman want a child, but the woman decides she doesn't want to anymore after she gets pregnant, should that father automatically be deprived of a child with say from him whatsoever?

No, im saying as far as rape & abortion. Now if your in a relationship then thats totally different.
all in all, I dnt want a man telling me what I should do & whats right from wrong when it comes to abortion or carrying a child period when half the men out here dont even take care of their seeds.
you cant judge or put input on a situation you havent experienced.
Im sure a guy wouldnt care for me telling him how to clean his dick, i mean comeon.

[PopBoi]

Originally posted by m-m-m-monster

Of course, but a lot of young people are swayed by an opinion like his. It's not good for women's rights nor is it good for the gay rights movement.

Ellen needs to educate him.

And things were better before for gays?

[skyler]

Originally posted by PopBoi

No, whats ignorant is when you said you wanted to kill him for having an opinion.

[fabian_phipps]

It's getting awfully busy in here.

PROMO TIME!

[Ømega]

Look wat he said here WOWWWWW He is too much
A DAMNN MES
Justin Beiber

[Queen Bea.]

Originally posted by m-m-m-monster

Of course, but a lot of young people are swayed by an opinion like his. It's not good for women's rights nor is it good for the gay rights movement.

Ellen needs to educate him.

I 100% agree with you. He needs some PR lessons.
But thankfully we have more good influences on our generation regarding open-mindedness and tolerance than we have bad. Justin Bieber may sway some fans but he is a passing craze in their life, as most artists we loved when we were 13 are.

[RatedG²]

Originally posted by Bea.

I said somewhere back there that unless a woman or someone very close to her, as in her partner, had been through that kind of situation then no-one really knew what it was like or could judge anyone for it.

If I got pregnant my partner would be as important as I would be and that is how it should be, the father gets an..almost equal say. I'd like to say equal but not all women think like that.

I want it to be equal say, but all in all, the woman does have the last word. I was just expressing that men should be completely aware of this topic, and should be very open in expressing their opinion

[Harry]

Originally posted by Michael

How does him being a teenage male make his opinion invalid? Everyone is entitled to an opinion.

It's selfish to not care about what other people would feel with what you said.

It's like when someone calls you "Bitch, you're ugly!" on your face, yes it's his/her opinion to say so and he's entitled to have his own opinion but in the end, it's not healthy. It's an opinion but an insult at the same time. It's better if it's not said at all and show some love and empathy for others instead.

[Dancehall]

Originally posted by PopBoi

Strong stance? He was asked a question and he answered it honestly with his opinion.

Hi, hello there

If you did not know the vast majority of everyone who is "pro-life," is for abortion in cases of two things, 1.) rape and 2.) cases in which the mothers life is threatened.

Him believing everything happens for a reason, sets him in an extreme minority.

[Queen Bea.]

Originally posted by PopBoi

And things were better before for gays?

I think the point is both the gay rights movement and well women in general need positive comments coming from those who have influence rather than negative. Things are steadily getting better, look at the difference now from 25 years ago.

[PopBoi]

Originally posted by Michael

How does him being a teenage male make his opinion invalid? Everyone is entitled to an opinion.

His age makes a difference (in some peoples minds) cos he hasnt had much life experience and probably hasn't really thought about stuff like this.

His gender makes a difference (in some peoples minds) because for some reason, people think that males should have no opinion on abortion cos they dont have to go through the procedure.

[Queen Bea.]

Originally posted by RatedG

I want it to be equal say, but all in all, the woman does have the last word. I was just expressing that men should be completely aware of this topic, and should be very open in expressing their opinion

I agree with you but I also think that it is truly an issue no-one can really comprehend unless they have been face to face with it.

[Cap10Planet]

Originally posted by Nadia

I'm a female and see nothing wrong with what he said

That's because you co-sign trash and is a fan of it too.

[BoyOnBoy Wonder]

Originally posted by PopBoi

And things were better before for gays?

You're missing my point completely. In order for the gay rights movement to have FORWARD motion, straight allies are necessary - especially allies with a lot of sway.

Bottom line: Justin Bieber needs a PR person with him in every interview.

[MrDeeds]

Some people here

[Vashetti]

[Queen Bea.]

Originally posted by MrDeeds

Some people here

Which people?

[Harry]

Originally posted by PopBoi

What? My pride? So I'm not allowed to express my opinion cos I 'want to **** him in the ass'? Nice input.

Is homosexuality a choice or is it not?

Originally posted by PopBoi

Cos you were a fan up until today?

Where did you get that from?