[Roman]

Originally posted by TheGeoKing

Yes A merciful god would do this.... we have free will. We know the difference between what is right and what is wrong. The decision is in our hands, we choose what to do in our lives. Disease's have formed from humanity itself. God did not create disease. God doesn't create natural disasters they form from the natural earth, which god created. I call it the year 0 or the time between Year 1 AD and BC. The time during Jesus' life.

If God created all lifeforms he also created Bacteria and Fungi.

We can't live without bacteria, they are in our large intestine. They produce enzymes (Eco-RI) that we can't and need.

God created bacteria. So God also created disease.

Also he can't be 'merciful' if he doesn't intervene in things like the Holocaust.

You can either be Deist or not, but you are contradicting yourself here, I'm afraid.

[StarryEyed]

I'm fairly certain the theory is correct.

[Forevermore]

Originally posted by itstotallybea

Humans are not God's, they do not have power over what they create, your God would.

If you say these lifeforms that cause disease came to be on their own. You support the theory of evolution. No other way round it

I never said I didn't..... wait did I?? lol I don't remember what I said anymore....

OK THIS IS WHAT I BELIEVE

God created the earth.
God created Humans and Animal separately.
These Humans were not modern humans but primitive forms (not apes)
Jesus came down to earth the bible was written. (Christianity forms)
The species continue to evolve within their own animal families...
Humans now exist today with their ancestors not being apes but primitive humans.

Natural Disasters occur naturally within the planet earth.
God has no control over planet earth or it's inhabitants any more (we have free will)
Disease is not directly caused because of god.

Thank you.... I have to go for a while I will be back later. Thank you for your arguments.

Don't hate me Bye

PS: I love emoticons/smilies (directed at itstotallybea)

[Roman]

according to you:

God can create humans, therefore:

God created Nuclei
God created Chromatin
God created Plasmid DNA
God created Bacteria

Bacteria and Viruses don't have "free will", no brain or conscience, they are Procaryotes, they have their behaviour hard-coded into their chromosomal DNA. Seeking and infecting hosts is a survival mechanism.

God created disease.

[StarryEyed]

I wish some people would learn what evolution is before commenting...not once did Darwin say we evolved from monkeys, he said we had a common ancestor with them before we branched off into different species that evolved differently.

[Crank_It_Up]

I'm still not sure. I need more evidence that God created humans or if the evolution theory was correct.

[Forevermore]

Originally posted by Roman

according to you:

God can create humans, therefore:

God created Nuclei
God created Chromatin
God created Plasmid DNA
God created Bacteria

Bacteria and Viruses don't have "free will", no brain or conscience, they are Procaryotes, they have their behaviour hard-coded into their chromosomal DNA. Seeking and infecting hosts is a survival mechanism.

God created disease.

I'm back for more pummeling

God Created set life into motion... he didn't directly create these things himself. Life created these things. And God Created life.

[supaspaz]

Originally posted by TheGeoKing

1) Of course you would be correct....... but you are forgetting the second most powerful nation in the world's involvement as well as the third most powerful nation in the world's involvement.

So who are you referring to? England? Russia? China? Germany?

2) Yes. The US can't even defeat the Taliban.... a minor terrorist organization. I think Turkey is one of the most underestimated nations on the planet.

Legitimate governments don't fights wars like terrorists. When they do, they get arrested for war crimes. And besides, nobody would be trying to overthrow the Turkish government, they'd be trying to stop them from taking over another country. How are these comparable circumstances?

[supaspaz]

Originally posted by itstotallybea

Hitler shouldn't have come to power in the first place, the superpowers of the day knew damn well what was going on but decided not to intervene until it started to hassle them specifically. Sure America didn't even join in until the last sprint.

Well, Hitler was rightfully elected to power by Germany and he didn't exactly run on a platform of genocide, so there really isn't anything that could have been there. Of course, it was ridiculous that England and France kept appeasing all of his demands, but if they didn't, it just would have led to a war sooner. Regardless, he needed to be stopped and that took military action.

[supaspaz]

Originally posted by TheGeoKing

2) No. The Middle East is the cradle of life.... wow.... Sumeria anyone??

I'm pretty sure the earliest evidence of human life (i.e. the Lucy skeleton) was found in Africa.

[Forevermore]

Originally posted by supaspaz

So who are you referring to? England? Russia? China? Germany?



Legitimate governments don't fights wars like terrorists. When they do, they get arrested for war crimes. And besides, nobody would be trying to overthrow the Turkish government, they'd be trying to stop them from taking over another country. How are these comparable circumstances?

1) China then Russia (you really gave a choice of England?? )

2) Turkey will have allies so they will be able to easily take over a nation such as Iraq. Especially with the help of global powers such as China and Russia. BRIC anyone??

[Forevermore]

Originally posted by supaspaz

I'm pretty sure the earliest evidence of human life (i.e. the Lucy skeleton) was found in Africa.

The first evidence of civilization was Sumeria... and an early skeleton has been found but I don't recall where it was from.

[eli's_rhythm]

Originally posted by StarryEyed

I wish some people would learn what evolution is before commenting...not once did Darwin say we evolved from monkeys, he said we had a common ancestor with them before we branched off into different species that evolved differently.

Right.

What's my stance on evolution? That it exists. I don't think there's an in-between. You can either believe God created the world in a week and we were there or that it's millions of years old. Which seems more credible?

[caerbayn]

Lucy was not a "human", she was an Australopithecine. She provides evidence for the history of the human lineage because she was the first specimen found with ape like features that would have been able to walk (though they've found an even earlier fossil now..)

The Sumerians were a HUMAN civilization. Anyway, I do believe in evolution, its logical and make sense, and we have increasing evidence that keeps on corroborating it.

[Roman]

Originally posted by TheGeoKing

I'm back for more pummeling

God Created set life into motion... he didn't directly create these things himself. Life created these things. And God Created life.

I don't get this.

Creationism claims He created Man.
Which means he created Bacteria, too. Humans have essential bacteria inside of them.

[Forevermore]

Originally posted by Roman

I don't get this.

Creationism claims He created Man.
Which means he created Bacteria, too. Humans have essential bacteria inside of them.

I know.... lol

I am not an expert on this... nothing is really set in stone. I wish I had the answers but I don't... but either do you

I know this wasn't a response to your analysis but I really don't have the answer. Sometimes you just have to have faith.

[Forevermore]

^ That was extremely typical...

[Forevermore]

Once again if anyone has a topic idea Wall Post Me

[Forevermore]

Previous Topics
#1 - Abortion
#2 - Same-Sex Marriage (Gay Marriage)
#3 - Gun Control
#4 - Immigration (Illegal or Undocumented)
#5 - Euthanasia
#6 - War in Afghanistan
#7 Evolutionary Theory

#8
Separation of Church and State

Should they remain separated?
Is Church more important than the State?
Is the State more important than the Church?
Pledge of Allegiance Controversy? (Under God)?
Currency Controversy? (In God We Trust)?

[Forevermore]

I think we should have separation of Church and State but I believe that since our history was based on Christianity that "In God We Trust" and "Under God" should remain. I also believe that the church and the state are both equally important in any nation.