[Love]

I predict 250K.

Only Girl is huge and What's My Name is blowing up.

[25 To Life]

1. HarrySapphire - 210k
2. PopBoi - 197k
3. Glamophonic - 230k
4. Roman - 215k
5. V$. - 220k
6. RudeBoy - 172K
7. Duca - 175K
8. Mr.Dream - 250k
9. J-esper - 203k
10. love100 - 215k
11. 25 To Life - 225-230K

[Roman]

Originally posted by Duca

And besides, the album sales are hitting a new low every week.

You have a point with this, album sales are disappointing on all fronts, so my estimate is rather optimistic...but I think she can do it, I doubt an established name like that can perform 20k lower than Teenage Dream.

[Harry]

Originally posted by Duca

Music of the Sun 69,000
A Girl like Me 115,000
Good Girl Gone Bad 168,000
Rated R 181,000

I'm just being realistic.

She was never a big album seller and couldn't crack 200K not even with the help of "Umbrella", which was MASSIVE.

And besides, the album sales are hitting a new low every week.

But LOUD has OG instead of Russian Roulette That must mean something there. Plus, Rihanna never had the first single and second both smashing hard like the LOUD era

[Roman]

love100 predicted 218k guys, 215 is mine

[PopBoi]

Loud will be her biggest opening yet

[Duca]

Originally posted by 25 To Life

Your logic doesn't make sense. "Umbrella" was massive yet she opened with 168K, but "Russian Roulette" wasnt a big radio or digital hit and she opened with 180K. With Rated R she was more established than with Umbrella, despite Umbrella being a massive hit. The only thing that prevented her from actually doing big first week numbers was a dramatic shift in sound and image, as well as underperformance of her lead single.

Black Friday + the incident = bigger sales

She is still not an established artist.

[Roman]

Originally posted by Duca

Black Friday + the incident = bigger sales

She is still not an established artist.

so you'd say she's less established than Katy Perry?

[PopBoi]

Originally posted by Duca

Music of the Sun 69,000
A Girl like Me 115,000
Good Girl Gone Bad 168,000
Rated R 181,000

I'm just being realistic.

But. Only Girl/Whats My Name =/= Russian Roulette
Loud =/= Rated R

How could Loud do worse than Rated R? Thats not realistic, you just hate her.

[Harry]

Originally posted by 25 To Life

1. HarrySapphire - 210k
2. PopBoi - 197k
3. Glamophonic - 230k
4. Roman - 215k
5. V$. - 220k
6. RudeBoy - 172K
7. Duca - 175K
8. Mr.Dream - 250k
9. J-esper - 203k
10. love100 - 215k
11. 25 To Life - 225-230K

25 to Life, that's unfair Like I said, you must provide specific number and not a range. The winner will be given an honorable mention in this thread once announced as the winner. Place your prediction again

[Duca]

Originally posted by Roman

You have a point with this, album sales are disappointing on all fronts, so my estimate is rather optimistic...but I think she can do it, I doubt an established name like that can perform 20k lower than Teenage Dream.

But Katy had the biggest single of the year which spent weeks at #1 and she sold 4 times more what "One of the Boys" sold in it's first week, so it was an improvement... for her.

[PopBoi]

Originally posted by Roman

so you'd say she's less established than Katy Perry?

Ignore him, he just hates her cos he loves Chris Brown.

[25 To Life]

Originally posted by Duca

Black Friday + the incident = bigger sales

She is still not an established artist.

Yeah, she's not an established artist when her lead single debuted top 10 across the globe based off her name alone without promotion or a video.

[25 To Life]

Originally posted by HarrySapphire

25 to Life, that's unfair Like I said, you must provide specific number and not a range. The winner will be given an honorable mention in this thread once announced as the winner. Place your prediction again

1. HarrySapphire - 210k
2. PopBoi - 197k
3. Glamophonic - 230k
4. Roman - 215k
5. V$. - 220k
6. RudeBoy - 172K
7. Duca - 175K
8. Mr.Dream - 250k
9. J-esper - 203k
10. love100 - 215k
11. 25 To Life - 225K

[Harry]

Originally posted by Roman

love100 predicted 218k guys, 215 is mine

1. HarrySapphire - 210k
2. PopBoi - 197k
3. Glamophonic - 230k
4. Roman - 215k
5. V$. - 220k
6. RudeBoy - 172K
7. Duca - 175K
8. Mr.Dream - 250k
9. J-esper - 203k
10. love100 - 218k
11. 25 To Life - 225k
12. Love is Love - 250k

[Duca]

Originally posted by PopBoi

But. Only Girl/Whats My Name =/= Russian Roulette
Loud =/= Rated R

How could Loud do worse than Rated R? Thats not realistic, you just hate her.

I actually love every song from this era.

We'll see who was right.

Originally posted by Roman

so you'd say she's less established than Katy Perry?

They are pretty much on the same level. They can both sell singles, and aren't big album sellers, but both aren't purely singles artists as well.

[Roman]

Originally posted by Duca

But Katy had the biggest single of the year which spent weeks at #1 and she sold 4 times more what "One of the Boys" sold in it's first week, so it was an improvement... for her.

I'm now going to assume that you agree with the name being more established since you didn't disagree.

We have seen with Katy Perry that Single sales don't necessarily translate into good album sales, because as you said, we live in a time in which people don't seem to value them that highly.

I still definitely think she will ship more than Rated R, because Only Girl is a more fun and radio friendly track than Russian Roulette. So approximately 190k+ are the minimum to me.

[25 To Life]

Rihanna and Katy are NOT on the same level. Duca, I know you can't take Rihanna slaying like this but you don't have to be delusional.

[Duca]

Originally posted by 25 To Life

Yeah, she's not an established artist when her lead single debuted top 10 across the globe based off her name alone without promotion or a video.

I can name you at least 25 artist who did that this year and she did have promo.

[Harry]

Originally posted by PopBoi

Ignore him, he just hates her cos he loves Chris Brown.

deadddddddddd I never heard any CB songs after the incident except the one coz my friend used it as his ringtone. I'm glad he's changed it tho