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Discussion: Janet vs Madonna, Beyonce vs Lady GaGa
Member Since: 6/4/2010
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Originally posted by jcsfreebitch
You're a stan for Beyonce though. You are biased.
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So am I, but I'm not biased.
Their music and ability to perform onstage is certainly debatable.
Now vocally? Janet has no chance in hell.
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Member Since: 7/21/2010
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Originally posted by jcsfreebitch
You're a stan for Beyonce though. You are biased.
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Put my Stan card aside Janet was not on Beyonce's Lvl in the 80's Janet wasn't the Main Girl it was Whitney in the 90 's she wasn't the main Girl it was Mariah, not saying Janet wasn't successful but it's the truth
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Member Since: 2/9/2008
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Originally posted by jcsfreebitch
A lot of people saying that Janet wasn't as big as Beyonce in her prime are obviously blind. Janet had to compete with a lot of extremely huge and talented people. The only really HUGE stars nowadays are Beyonce and Gaga. No, don't say Katy Perry is a huge star. Katy Perry is an untalented joke who lacks a fanbase.
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Yeah you're saying what I said.
Britney could be included, but she's so half-dead now.
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Member Since: 8/22/2009
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Originally posted by eli's_rhythm
I would never report you, but you should watch what you type because that's a crock of ****.
Times have changed. Beyonce is DOMINATING a ****** music industry. Janet was one of many amazing female superstars when she was at her peak. Beyonce has like 1 real competitor when it comes to that stuff--GaGa, a woman who is probably too wacko to perform for Presidents and such.
Janet had Whitney, Madonna, Mariah, Whitney, Shania, Alanis, Celine, etc. to compete with.
If she did it in purpose, she wouldn't have looked so shocked and then covered it up immediately afterward. Just saying. That wasn't acting. OBVIOUSLY Justin was supposed to rip something off, but not the whole thing.
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Janet danced and whispered and that's just the truth. Beyonce however can do it all and in any language.
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Member Since: 2/9/2008
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Originally posted by Captain Planet
Stop looking at Wiki. Janet was winning just as many awards during her prime as Beyonce is now. Janet, like Whitney and Mariah, were award show beasts. No, they weren't winning 5-6 Grammys every time they put out an album, but they surely were winning other awards in loads.
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Right, Janet holds the record for the most Billboard awards of anybody ever. 
I love seeing you fight for her.
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Member Since: 5/7/2009
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Originally posted by eli's_rhythm
That's true too. Beyonce has never made an album as good as Janet's best 4.
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Member Since: 11/2/2009
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Originally posted by Ace Reject
lmao heartbreak hotel and same script, different cast, where she was embarrassed by the feature acts. In an effort for fairness, here's my Celine top ten SINGLES:
1) It's All Coming Back to Me Now
2) To Love You More
3) All By Myself
4) If You Asked Me To
5) Where Does My Heart Beat Now
6) That's The Way IT Is
7) Beauty and the Beast
8) Love Can Move Mountains (THE VIDEO.)
9) A New Day Has Come
10) Taking Chances
Man, I really struggled there towards the end.  Maybe you're right after all. |
I thought the teapot sang this.
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Member Since: 4/23/2010
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Originally posted by eli's_rhythm
Beyonce's highest-selling album couldn't match Janet's fourth-highest-selling.
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Times changed, it's not the measuring stick anymore. Now will you excuse, I'm reading Forbes 
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Member Since: 10/2/2010
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Beyonce and Gaga remind me of true STARS that existed back in the day. The ones where fans would faint and chase after just to get an autograph. They possess the natural star power. Whereas if Katy Perry or Rihanna were to walk down the street, maybe a few people would stop and a few would say, oh hey, that is Katy Perry, that's kinda cool.
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Member Since: 5/28/2010
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Originally posted by jcsfreebitch
Stop talking down to me. Do you hear the constant homophobic slurs that teenagers and even little kids use nowadays? "That's so gay" and "F*g" are thrown around like they are vowels. Whenever confronted about it, none of the people who say it think that there is anything wrong with it. Denied marriage? Denied the right to be open about who they are even if they are risking their life for their country? Black people still get hate yes, but NOW AND THEN. Not AS MUCH as gay people do. At least not as much as out in the open as gay people.
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I'm constantly hearing stories of people being prejudice against black people. Just the other day I heard this women couldn't get this house she wanted because she was black.
And you can hide your homosexuality(I THINK YOU SHOULDN'T THOUGH BECAUSE EVERYBODY SHOULD BE THEMSELVES) I can't hide the fact I'm black. And the stereotyping of a black boy is always on my shoulders. Going somewhere without somebody getting afraid of my entrance. In 7 eleven the other day me and some other friends went in, I'm the only black person, guess who is the first one to get question about shoplifting.
So black people are still going through struggles and so are gays. But to say one struggle is bigger than the other is preposterous.
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Member Since: 7/21/2010
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Originally posted by eli's_rhythm
Beyonce's highest-selling album couldn't match Janet's fourth-highest-selling.
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Albums don't sale like that like they did in the 80's and the 90's Beyonce is far more versatile than Janet every could be
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Member Since: 6/4/2010
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Originally posted by Satellites
I dont agree with the bold because she is more respected than any female artist that isnt named Aretha, Madonna, or Tina.
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Bey gets praise every now and then mostly when it concerns her voice/performance skills or the Grammys, but on a daily basis you don't see Bey all over the media being praised like other celebs.
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Member Since: 6/1/2010
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Originally posted by eli's_rhythm
Right, Janet holds the record for the most Billboard awards of anybody ever.
I love seeing you fight for her. |
I just don't like how people discredit her, Whitney, Mariah and the like once they have become irrelevant. The same thing will probably happen to GaGa, Beyonce and Rihanna once they become passed their primes --- people star discrediting their successes.
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Member Since: 11/24/2009
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Originally posted by Satellites
Exactly, Lady Gaga comes out the ****ing blue and snatches 8 VMA's with her first album when Rihanna and Beyonce had to work their asses off to even be nominated for Video Of The Year. WHY??? Why does the media cover Rihanna every which way when she gets her ass beat but when shes doing well no one wants her? Why is Lady Gaga covering Rolling Stone twice in the USA when Rihanna hasn't even gotten one? The truth is the truth and it will be spilled on my time.
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She didn't really come out of the blue.
It took almost a year until Interscope decided she was worth the proper promotion and money required to make her a star.
Not to mention that it took ages for her bouncing around as a songwriter until she was signed by Interscope. That irony of this black-white argument is that it's because of a black R&B singer/rapper that she's here.
Plus, black or white, love her or hate her, she was born a star. Some people are made stars, others just have it, you can see it within 10 seconds.
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Originally posted by Satellites
Janet danced and whispered and that's just the truth. Beyonce however can do it all and in any language.
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Nope... Janet wrote too. I know you don't understand that music doesn't come from thin air and that it takes talent to create it, but Janet has--or at least had--that talent.
I don't even know why I'm arguing with you about this. Nothing will ever change. So I'll continue to enjoy Janet and you can continue to think you understand what she is when you don't.
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Member Since: 8/22/2009
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Originally posted by eli's_rhythm
That's false, has Beyonce made Rolling Stones' top 500 albums of all time list? Janet is there, twice--RN1814 and The Velvet Rope.
There's some other list like "250 Most Essential Albums of All-Time" or something that Janet has 2 on it too--janet. and Control--but I forgot which publication it was.  |
Dangerously In Love was named as one of the top 200 Definitive albums in music history by the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame.
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Member Since: 5/28/2010
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Originally posted by eli's_rhythm
Beyonce's highest-selling album couldn't match Janet's fourth-highest-selling.
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But look at the period differences. Albums were selling like hot cakes back then.
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Member Since: 10/28/2009
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Originally posted by eli's_rhythm
That's false, has Beyonce made Rolling Stones' top 500 albums of all time list? Janet is there, twice--RN1814 and The Velvet Rope.
There's some other list like "250 Most Essential Albums of All-Time" or something that Janet has 2 on it too--janet. and Control--but I forgot which publication it was. |
I think The Writings On The Wall are on some RS list and Dangerously In Love and The Writings On The Wall are both listed on the Rock N Roll Hall of Fame's List of 200 definitive albums that shaped music.
I need to find the receipts though...
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Member Since: 4/23/2010
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Originally posted by QueenBeyoncé
Albums don't sale like that like they did in the 80's and the 90's Beyonce is far more versatile than Janet every could be
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You ain't ever lying
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Member Since: 6/4/2010
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Where is Geez? We need more reasonable Bey stans in here. 
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