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Celeb News: Mika: "Gaga is Responsible for Identity Crisis in Pop"
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Originally posted by ashuduff
I forgot to mention that Discipline wasn't hers. Discipline was the kinda album that Britney puts out.
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Not really !!!
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I knew you would say something to that effect but I couldn't resist. Any chance I get to post that demo I will.
She also didn't have much input on her first two albums, hence Control being the title of her 3rd. But I'm sure you already knew that.
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*Goes through this nonsense & prepares to be banned*
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Originally posted by Hi.Ðefinitiøn
*Goes through this nonsense & prepares to be banned*
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Originally posted by bobbymfw
Lady GaGa has had a tremendous impact on Christina, Katy, Rihanna, M.I.A., and Nicole.
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Christina, yes.
Katy? No...
Rihanna?! Hell no. The only thing Rihanna has done that even remotely reminds me of Lady Gaga is the spiky dress she wore in Hard, and even then she had already done things similar to that already. And Lord knows you can't be talking about music since Rihanna music as of late has been nothing like Gaga's.
M.I.A? Chile...... Look at things MIA has done in the past before people even knew who Lady Gaga was, and then come back and honestly say that.
Nicole Scherzinger? Well frankly she hasn't done anything outrageous like Gaga has, not that I know of.
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I thought Nicole was subtle shade thrown at Nicki Minaj. 
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Originally posted by GeezusHaberdash
I knew you would say something to that effect but I couldn't resist. Any chance I get to post that demo I will.
She also didn't have much input on her first two albums, hence Control being the title of her 3rd. But I'm sure you already knew that.
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Of course I knew that! Ne-Yo sounds terrible. Janet's is so much betta. Funny, she has a song called So Much Betta, also on Discipline.
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Originally posted by Satellites
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Diana.
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Originally posted by ashuduff
1) Look at pre-Lady Gaga and post-Lady Gaga Beyonce. Beyonce didn't take any risks with her videos before Lady GaGa; she danced, she sang, she wore beautiful dresses. And after Lady GaGa comes along, her videos become more..."creative" and different. Take a look at Video Phone and Why Don't You Love Me. Compare it to videos like Irreplaceable and Deja Vu.
2) I remember the first time I saw Rihanna, back in 2005, on TRL. She was the sweetest thing ever, a breath of fresh air. I loved Music of The Sun and A Girl Like Me. Then suddenly along comes this good girl who's gone bad, who thinks it's cool to point the middle finger, who suddenly decides that she wants to be a rockstar. I don't know, she just seems a lot edgier and a lot less sweet. And I liked that sweetness.
Rihanna's change has nothing to do with Lady GaGa though and Bey's change is for the better.
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1. You have absolutely no idea what you're even talking about. It's pretty obvious you haven't followed Bey's or DC's career since her/their debut. She's taken quite a bit of risks. Work It Out, anyone? Also, while we're on the subject of Work It Out, she took on a character for the video that related to the song just like she did for Why Don't You Love Me.
Work It Out = Old school, 70s funk based on the character Foxy Cleopatra from a movie that basically portrays that entire time period.
Why Don't You Love Me = Old school, 50s dance based on the character BB Homemaker which basically portrayed the women of that time who stayed at home 247, cooked, cleaned, did housework and yard work, had beauty and smarts, but were still unable to win the affection of their supposed "spouse".
When speaking on creativity we can head right to one of her most creative videos (If I Were A Boy) which was pretty much acting all the way. There were no dance scenes, hot bare chested men, or anything else you would see in a typical video these days. Would you suggest Video Phone is more creative and different? There's really no plot or concept for Video Phone. It's had loads of color, risque outfits, seductive dancing, and a few hot body males. Bey has had these in previous videos before Gaga even made it big. Did you forget Bootylicious, Soldier, Freekum Dress, Naughty Girl, etc?
The only thing you can say is that as with Telephone, the video for Video Phone doesn't really match the song.
Now back to risks, again, Work It Out. The record and song were pushed into the media even though the style of the song sounded nothing like any other material that was already being played on the airwaves. It was 70s funk for pete's sake. If trying to push that type of record isn't a risk then I don't know what is.
Also, another risk would be releasing dual singles to try and appeal to different audiences. Several artists have tried it, but failed. Bey has managed to make it a success because she possess the creativity to do so.
2. Bringing Rihanna into this was pointless. Rihanna went through a drastic change, and no it clearly had nothing to do with Gaga since she was unheard of back then. Now, until you can show me where Bey has drastically changed her image/artistry to:
Shocking outfits
Talking about her "art"
Creating 9 minute music videos
Etc...then there hasn't been any change, and if there has been then it certainly did not involve Lady Gaga.
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You obviously don't read very much. I said earlier that RIhanna's change had nothing to do with Lady GaGa.
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Originally posted by Hi.Ðefinitiøn
1. You have absolutely no idea what you're even talking about. It's pretty obvious you haven't followed Bey's or DC's career since her/their debut. She's taken quite a bit of risks. Work It Out, anyone? Also, while we're on the subject of Work It Out, she took on a character for the video that related to the song just like she did for Why Don't You Love Me.
Work It Out = Old school, 70s funk based on the character Foxy Cleopatra from a movie that basically portrays that entire time period.
Why Don't You Love Me = Old school, 50s dance based on the character BB Homemaker which basically portrayed the women of that time who stayed at home 247, cooked, cleaned, did housework and yard work, had beauty and smarts, but were still unable to win the affection of their supposed "spouse".
When speaking on creativity we can head right to one of her most creative videos (If I Were A Boy) which was pretty much acting all the way. There were no dance scenes, hot bare chested men, or anything else you would see in a typical video these days. Would you suggest Video Phone is more creative and different? There's really no plot or concept for Video Phone. It's had loads of color, risque outfits, seductive dancing, and a few hot body males. Bey has had these in previous videos before Gaga even made it big. Did you forget Bootylicious, Soldier, Freekum Dress, Naughty Girl, etc?
The only thing you can say is that as with Telephone, the video for Video Phone doesn't really match the song.
Now back to risks, again, Work It Out. The record and song were pushed into the media even though the style of the song sounded nothing like any other material that was already being played on the airwaves. It was 70s funk for pete's sake. If trying to push that type of record isn't a risk then I don't know what is.
Also, another risk would be releasing dual singles to try and appeal to different audiences. Several artists have tried it, but failed. Bey has managed to make it a success because she possess the creativity to do so.
2. Bringing Rihanna into this was pointless. Rihanna went through a drastic change, and no it clearly had nothing to do with Gaga since she was unheard of back then. Now, until you can show me where Bey has drastically changed her image to:
Shocking outfits
Talking about her "art"
Creating 9 minute music videos
Etc...then there hasn't been any change, and if there has been then it certainly did not involve Lady Gaga.
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Did I even mention risks? No I didn't.
And thank you, you opened my eyes.
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Originally posted by ashuduff
You obviously don't read very much. I said earlier that RIhanna's change had nothing to do with Lady GaGa.
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No sweetie, you clearly don't read. I said bringing Rihanna into was POINTLESS. I also said Lady Gaga played no part in her drastic change.
You went on to talk about Bey as if Gaga played a part in some "drastic" change she's gone through.
You don't have to read it though. Just know I got you right together, and get your facts straight about not only Bey, but JANET as well before throwing out ridiculous accusations.
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Originally posted by ashuduff
Did I even mention risks? No I didn't.
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Originally posted by ashuduff
1) Look at pre-Lady Gaga and post-Lady Gaga Beyonce. Beyonce didn't take any risks .
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Originally posted by Hi.Ðefinitiøn
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Yes that was before I read your entire thing. Like I said, you've opened my eyes.
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Yes that was before I read your entire thing. Like I said, you've opened my eyes. |
That doesn't make sense. You claim to not mention risks yet that was the first thing to come out of your replies. Also, I addressed them not only at the end, but the beginning as well.
Please get it together if you're going to try and discredit Bey to make other artists look better.
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Originally posted by Hi.Ðefinitiøn
No sweetie, you clearly don't read. I said bringing Rihanna into was POINTLESS. I also said Lady Gaga played no part in her drastic change.
You went on to talk about Bey as if Gaga played a part in some "drastic" change she's gone through.
You don't have to read it though. Just know I got you right together, and get your facts straight about not only Bey, but JANET as well before throwing out ridiculous accusations.
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I admitted even before I said anything about Rihanna that Lady GaGa had no part in Rihanna's change.
I thought, and still do think that, Beyonce has become different after Lady GaGa. I still believe that a stupid video like Video Phone would never have been created by such a magnificent artist if not for Lady GaGa.
You're such a typical stan. You don't entertain, you just irritate.
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Originally posted by Hi.Ðefinitiøn
That doesn't make sense. You claim to not mention risks yet that was the first thing to come out of your replies. Also, I addressed them not only at the end, but the beginning as well.
Please get it together if you're going to try and discredit Bey to make other artists look better.
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You want to make fun of a slower person? My IQ is 100, so what?
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Originally posted by ashuduff
I admitted even before I said anything about Rihanna that Lady GaGa had no part in Rihanna's change.
I thought, and still do think that, Beyonce has become different after Lady GaGa. I still believe that a stupid video like Video Phone would never have been created by such a magnificent artist if not for Lady GaGa.
You're such a typical stan. You don't entertain, you just irritate.
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YOU DON"T GET IT.
What was so magnificent and amazing about some of those videos I just told you about earlier? Bey has created similar videos like Video Phone before on her own and in Destiny's Child.
And no I'm no typical Bey stan. A typical Bey stan would've slung you up and down this thread. I came at you with logic and facts while you came back with nonsense.
I've supposedly opened your eyes, yet you still believe these ridiculous statements you originally thought up and submitted earlier tonight.
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