[MusicTalker]

This thread is a joke

The pop music scene fluctuates as much as Kirstie Alley's weight. You never know who will flop or who will rise to the top. You can't count anyone out either. Mariah Carey is a perfect example. Everyone thought she was done until they were proven wrong by TEOM & she was the #1 popstar again

[Rockstar101]

Originally posted by starstruck52

Rihanna would have been done faded if it weren't for the Chris Brown spectacle. Good day "sweety".

WRONG! Disturbia was still on the charts MONTHS after it peaked and all she had to do was talk about recording with 'JAY-Z' and the fans plumped right back on her, SO SIT!

[Hot & Bothered]

Originally posted by ëlëctrik-city

Her receiving minimal play on Rhythmic still isn't an excuse though.

Says who?

[ëlëctrik-city]

Originally posted by Beatfreak

Why wouldn't pop add the song though? It does have mainstream appeal, especially with Ludacris on the song.

Exactly.

[Hot & Bothered]

Originally posted by Beatfreak

Why wouldn't pop add the song though? It does have mainstream appeal, especially with Ludacris on the song.

They're trying to push the remix with Andre 3000 to Pop.

[Rockstar101]

Originally posted by Captain Planet

Those are exceptions but certainly not the rules. Drake's and Nicki's songs are borderline pop. Notice how "Massive Attack" didn't even do anything on iTunes and Drake's songs barely stay in the top 10. I'm not making excuses for Ciara, but Urban (and I use this word lightly) isn't dominating the charts, particularly iTunes, right now. If this was 2000-2005, that would be a different story.

We're not here for past fads. This is 2010, let's stay current!

[foxaylove]

Originally posted by rihannar0x8

Ok, but the ONLY reason Britney has sold albums in the past 7 years is because of her FIRST week sales.
Rihanna may not have a number one album, or sell that much in her first week, but she has LONGEVITY and is a HUGE singles artist.
And Rihannas tour in Europe wasnt HUGELY successful because of the Chris Brown thing. It was cause it was Rihanna. People wouldnt say "Oh, she got beat up, lemme buy a $50 ticket." NO. Shes still successful.

You're right, because after her first week sales, her albums stop selling right?

[Hot & Bothered]

Originally posted by ëlëctrik-city

Exactly.

And Jive not sending the song to Pop radio could play a factor in it as well.

[Cap10Planet]

Well, "Ride" is performing well at its core format, so what's the issue? It's performing much better than "Go Girl," which didn't even make the last album.

Like I said, Ciara needs Urban support before she can get support from anywhere else. Of course something like "Ride" would get lost in the bunch. That doesn't mean it can't have success elsewhere.

[KingofBrits]

I'm annoyed that Alicia Keys was even brought into the equation. The Element of Freedom may have not been her biggest success in the U.S. but she's never been bigger everywhere else. She's had three top 10 hit's in the UK which is huge for her, especially with the limited success she had in the past around the World. Alicia is still a star and this journalist is sad for forgetting it.

However, Katy Perry and Ke$ha will be off the charts in 2 years time, just like Ciara is at the moment, which is sad for me to say as I'm still a fan of CiCi's, despite this new album.

[Hot & Bothered]

Originally posted by Captain Planet

Well, "Ride" is performing well at its core format, so what's the issue? It's performing much better than "Go Girl," which didn't even make the last album.

Like I said, Ciara needs Urban support before she can get support from anywhere else. Of course something like "Ride" would get lost in the bunch. That doesn't mean it can't have success elsewhere.

Thank you.

[Beatfreak]

Originally posted by Hot & Bothered

And Jive nto sending the song to Pop radio could play a factor in it as well.

Why wouldn't they send it to Pop though? It could only help the song, so they never know what would happen until they tried it. If they wait too long for the remix, it won't go anywhere. Hopefully they'll release Blauw to Pop later this year, that song will go places.

[Cap10Planet]

Originally posted by Rockstar101

We're not here for past fads. This is 2010, let's stay current!

Chile, what are you talking about? Is that Rated R is tumbling down the charts and "Rockstar 101" ain't doing anything?

[RihMark]

Originally posted by foxaylove

You're right, because after her first week sales, her albums stop selling right?

Yeah, you can compare her albums with Rihanna's. Then only album that was on the chart longer than GGGB was her first album. AGLM and GGGB and RR have all stayed in the top 50 longer than many Britney albums.

[GagalooBabii]

Originally posted by KingofBrits

I'm annoyed that Alicia Keys was even brought into the equation. The Element of Freedom may have not been her biggest success in the U.S. but she's never been bigger everywhere else. She's had three top 10 hit's in the UK which is huge for her, especially with the limited success she had in the past around the World. Alicia is still a star and this journalist is sad for forgetting it.

However, Katy Perry and Ke$ha will be off the charts in 2 years time, just like Ciara is at the moment, which is sad for me to say as I'm still a fan of CiCi's, despite this new album.

Gurl please. Katy Perry is shittin on radio, and is no.1 song in America selling ove 1 million copies in 4 weeks. Katy is going nowhere. And Ke$ha is here to stay too. In about 5 years, we can then talk about their longevity

[Rockstar101]

Let's discuss the: "Rihanna is a single artist and will fare just as JLO & Ashanti did'

First off: WRONG
Some of you fail to realize CULTURAL IMPACT. No matter if she didn't go #1 or isn't the biggest opening week sales, Rihanna has achieved Cultural Impact around the world. Those other girls did it in their neighborhoods. So, NEXT

[Hot & Bothered]

Originally posted by Beatfreak

Why wouldn't they send it to Pop though? It could only help the song, so they never know what would happen until they tried it. If they wait too long for the remix, it won't go anywhere. Hopefully they'll release Blauw to Pop later this year, that song will go places.

Well, they had an adds date for Pop, but they pulled out. I think they did in order to release the remix with Andre 3000 to Pop instead.

[Beatfreak]

Originally posted by rihannar0x8

Yeah, you can compare her albums with Rihanna's. Then only album that was on the chart longer than GGGB was her first album. AGLM and GGGB and RR have all stayed in the top 50 longer than many Britney albums.

But in the big scheme, Britney will be more successful and sell more because she'll have the longevity. Like others said, over the past 11 years she's had the huge "Britney" brand, and you can't argue with the fact that she's a global icon and there will always be a mystery about her and an interest in her.

[RihMark]

Originally posted by Captain Planet

Chile, what are you talking about? Is that Rated R is tumbling down the charts and "Rockstar 101" ain't doing anything?

Rockstar 101 is 61 on pop, less than two weeks after it was released, and its her fourth single. Its doing absolutely fine.

[Яeo.]

Originally posted by Satellites

Stop it because this statement is embarrassing, her album is commercial no matter what you say, she will never be a non commercial artist with her costumes and her reputation. And especially with songs like "Hard" "Rude Boy" and "Stupid In Love".

Stupid in Love and Hard commercial?

You should listen to the radio a bit more. Have you ever heard the radio play songs like; Hard, Stupid in Love, Russian Roulette, Photographs, Te Amo, Cold Case Love, G4L, The Last Song, Wait Your Turn?

Not Myself Tonight peaked at #3 in iTunes and it performed better on the radio than Ride. Xtina's fan base is way bigger than Ciara's. Christina's previous albums sold a lot more than Ciara's.

If Christina couldn't do it, why do you think Ciara will be able to?