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Poll: Bigger: Formation x Chantaje
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Formation
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23.03% |
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Chantaje
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76.97% |
Member Since: 8/18/2013
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Formation was never released as a single. Drag it!
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Member Since: 8/14/2007
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These days a song doesn't need to be "released", the public just chooses.
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Member Since: 2/26/2012
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Never heard of either but Shakira' s youtube views made me vote her.
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
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Originally posted by Alexz
These days a song doesn't need to be "released", the public just chooses.
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Sigh, not when it's not available for purchase. 
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Member Since: 10/29/2010
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Originally posted by Alexz
These days a song doesn't need to be "released", the public just chooses.
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But I think you'll agree that a song needs to be released on popular streaming platforms like Spotify to be successful in this era... Right? Since you know, most charts are almost mostly influenced by streaming numbers these days... "Formation" wasn't initially available for purchase and not available on any major streaming outlet. But you knew this already.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Member Since: 11/3/2011
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Lmao of course the hive is doing the most to try to put Shakira down just because Beyonce can't lose anything. The truth is the only people who think formation is bigger are the beyhive and ignorant people who don't care for chantaje because they don't speak Spanish, lol.
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Originally posted by Jet
None of this makes any sense. Lemonade has been more streamed than most albums even tho it's only available on tidal (which is a flop). Formation was the highest viewed unlisted video by a gigantic margin as well. Her YouTube stats and streams are actually quite impressive. Beyoncé just likes to do the opposite of what is expected because she is a risk taker unlike Shakira.
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You can say a lot about Shakira, but you cannot say she's not a risk taker. It is plain ignorant to even consider saying that when taking risks is what has made her such a huge global star and what she has done throughout most of her career. Heck she even lost a lot of her initial fan base because of that. Just shows you know absolutely nothing about her, please inform yourself before you speak.
Let me go stream chantaje some more.
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by yuiki
Lmao of course the hive is doing the most to try to put Shakira down just because Beyonce can't lose anything. The truth is the only people who think formation is bigger are the beyhive and ignorant people who don't care for chantaje because they don't speak Spanish, lol.
You can say a lot about Shakira, but you cannot say she's not a risk taker. It is plain ignorant to even consider saying that when taking risks is what has made her such a huge global star and what she has done throughout most of her career. Heck she even lost a lot of her initial fan base because of that. Just shows you know absolutely nothing about her, please inform yourself before you speak.
Let me go stream chantaje some more.
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Shakira was a risk taker until 2010. After that nope, she just kept being relevant by releasing world cup songs and using Rihanna for her lead. But this one is finally a hit, but still it's not risky.
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Member Since: 6/19/2012
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Formation
ive never heard chantaje other than the times ive played it
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Member Since: 8/3/2012
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Originally posted by TeemoR
Shakira was a risk taker until 2010. After that nope, she just kept being relevant by releasing world cup songs and using Rihanna for her lead. But this one is finally a hit, but still it's not risky.
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She actually is, she was a coach for The Voice USA for two seasons something she has never done, she actually put the reigns down and let other people write music for her which didn't fair well for her because we as fans notice the missing essence. Now that she's back to being in control of the studio, look how well it's doing. Shakira doesn't need the World Cup, the World Cup demands for Shakira, big difference. I mean you don't see the NFL running to Beyonce to save their local event.
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Member Since: 11/3/2011
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Originally posted by TeemoR
Shakira was a risk taker until 2010. After that nope, she just kept being relevant by releasing world cup songs and using Rihanna for her lead. But this one is finally a hit, but still it's not risky.
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Sale el Sol was a huge risk... Loca became one of her biggest hits being a merengue song, ffs lol. I agree that self titled might have been the safest thing that she has released (and probably one of the reasons why it wasn't a big hit) but to label her as someone that is not a risk taker because of 1 album is ridiculous.
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by man*****
Beyoncé doesn't do YouTube/Spotify releases on time as preventative damage control. Imagine if She did. It would completely undermine her marketing team's attempt to make her out to be the "mv visionary. " If the YouTube global views didn't add up, then that would be devastating to the brand. That's why they keep Beyonce in her "Safe place" with these supposed Tidal exclusivities.
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Finally someone said it!
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Member Since: 8/31/2013
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The one that hasn't been performed or premiered at the super bowl 
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Member Since: 3/27/2012
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Originally posted by LoKoPaNdA
It doesn't matter. Chantaje was still bigger.
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My point was that it's comparing apples and oranges and asking which one is more orange.
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Originally posted by Stark
The Hive is literally the MOST stupid fanbase I've ever seen.
Formation was a cute hit in the USA but it completely BOMBED WW, it wasn't a hit. Chantaje is smashing all over Latin America, Spain and some other countries, which means it's already bigger than Formation.
As long as I know Spain is a Spanish-speaking country?  Formation didn't go #1 ANYWHERE so there you have it. |
Please refrain from talking about our intelligence when you are talking about a song that was not even released WW, failing to have WW success.
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Originally posted by man*****
Beyoncé doesn't do YouTube/Spotify releases on time as preventative damage control. Imagine if She did. It would completely undermine her marketing team's attempt to make her out to be the "mv visionary. " If the YouTube global views didn't add up, then that would be devastating to the brand. That's why they keep Beyonce in her "Safe place" with these supposed Tidal exclusivities.
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This logic would assume that any YouTube hit video is a visionary music video experience. Is that the case?
Her brand seems to be controlling the exposure of her materials rather than taking her out of competition for fear of failure. Formation would have been a #1 hit if it were released to streaming, YouTube and iTunes on the week of it's release.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Formation. I don't know what that other song is. Nevertheless, Formation did go top 10. There sis no "safe place" when the song becomes a hit, commercially and critically, so that logic makes no sense. If Bey cared enough to want to create a "safe place" for her music, she would have ensured the one song that actually became a hit despite her efforts, would remain a hit.
Its like basic logic escape most of y'all. Her "safe place" songs are selling more than some of your faves singles and albums.
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Member Since: 3/27/2012
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Originally posted by dirrtydiana
The one that hasn't been performed or premiered at the super bowl |
Yup, it was promoted on the Super Bowl.
So essentially what this means is that on one of the world’s biggest stages, Beyoncé performed a new song. And if anyone wanted this brand new song they could get it FOR FREE no matter what country they lived in … for a quarter of a year.
And yet three months later without actually being a single, it still topped US and WW iTunes charts and debuted at #10 on the Billboard Hot 100. Can you name other songs that have done this despite being priorly free?
I don’t think that Formation is a bigger song than Shakira’s, and I do love Chantaje, but this whole thread is a sad attempt to shade Beyoncé and that’s abundantly clear. The two songs are so different in both sound, release and situation that drawing a comparison between them is an irrelevant indicator of either’s success.
So yes,
Chantaje is a bigger song than the one that was not released WW and was barely released in the market it had success in.
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Member Since: 2/19/2003
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As of today.
WORLDWIDE: Chantaje
USA: Formation
Chantaje is just starting though 
Also....to that one person that said Chantaje was huge in just a FEW spanish speaking countries...girl stop it lol
Its big all over Europe, Latin America and Asia! UK doesn't count they are stubborns with spanish songs so yeah.
and as I said...its starting...
Seriously ...Im a Beyonce fan but...some fans are just in denial here.
BUT also I think comparing these two doesn't make sense.
Chantaje is a BOP...
Formation was released as an statement...its not a song you dance to...
stop comparing these two to be honest.
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Member Since: 7/20/2010
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Chantaje. Formation is not a Beyoncé hit, no one outside of the US know that song.
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Member Since: 3/27/2012
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Originally posted by RajibDavid
Chantaje. Formation is not a Beyoncé hit, no one outside of the US know that song. |
Actually that is factually incorrect.
The country with the highest search interest for "Formation Beyoncé" is actually South Africa.
America's interest in the song is 23% less than South Africa's.
Other countries that include a high interest in the song based on Google searches are Canada, Sweden and Ireland, all with about half that of the US.
So despite what you said, people outside of the US emphatically do know the song, as it has appeared in the top ten of digital charts in countries like Australia, Greece, New Zealand, Belgium, Norway, Denmark, and Finland.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by swissman
Actually that is factually incorrect.
The country with the highest search interest for "Formation Beyoncé" is actually South Africa.
America's interest in the song is 23% less than South Africa's.
Other countries that include a high interest in the song based on Google searches are Canada, Sweden and Ireland, all with about half that of the US.
So despite what you said, people outside of the US emphatically do know the song, as it has appeared in the top ten of digital charts in countries like Australia, Greece, New Zealand, Belgium, Norway, Denmark, and Finland.
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I think it says more about them that they feel the need to compare Formation to EVERY song by every pop girl. A song they claim isn't a hit, is local, is forgotten, etc. It makes no sense. Y'all call it a flop every other week and then proceed to make threads about whether soandso is a bigger hit.  Lowkey implying that Formation, to most of y'all, is indeed actually a hit.
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