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ATRL: Is black people praised by media discrimination?
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The fact that you're asking this while rocking a Prince avi.
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Really not shocked at all to see the first responses...  Soooo typical.
Anyway, social position is absolutely relevant and context is important. WHY would somebody write up an article about how great it is to see any area of entertainment dominated by whites when there's never been an issue with white people being shut out and disenfranchised? 
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Originally posted by The Best One Yet
As a black man i don't want to be considered as a 'black musician' 'black singer' 'black writer', i would like to be appreciated for who i am. I'm sure my skin doesn't add any value to my art.
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A Raven tea.
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It's something called being a representation of a minority but whatever.
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Originally posted by The Best One Yet
As a black man i don't want to be considered as a 'black musician' 'black singer' 'black writer', i would like to be appreciated for who i am. I'm sure my skin doesn't add any value to my art.
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But you're black...
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Originally posted by RatedG²
But you're black...
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Clearly new black.  There's a difference!
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Not this being uploaded by MTV 
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What is this title 
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I understand what you're saying completely, however there are still several injustices within music that fall under gender, race, age, etc.
That's why we praise those with records and accolades such as "best selling black artist..." or "Youngest to ____", "Most #1 by female artist in ___" BECAUSE we are still not there yet as far as equality.
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Originally posted by RatedG²
But you're black...
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Yes, but it's like saying 'Gay Artist', i feel like they're making a difference between Gay and Straight Artists while there shouldn't be any. Art has nothing to do with sexual orientation.
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Originally posted by The Best One Yet
As a black man i don't want to be considered as a 'black musician' 'black singer' 'black writer', i would like to be appreciated for who i am. I'm sure my skin doesn't add any value to my art.
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Originally posted by The Best One Yet
Yes, but it's like saying 'Gay Artist', i feel like they're making a difference between Gay and Straight Artists while there shouldn't be any. Art has nothing to do with sexual orientation.
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Why is everyone dragging you? Your points makes so much sense.
It's actually refreshing to see logic on ATRL when it comes to race discussions.
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Originally posted by The Best One Yet
Yes, but it's like saying 'Gay Artist', i feel like they're making a difference between Gay and Straight Artists while there shouldn't be any. Art has nothing to do with sexual orientation.
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Sexual identity and race are not and will NEVER be the same.
Anyway, you'll get your negro wake up call soon enough lol.
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Originally posted by The Best One Yet
Yes, but it's like saying 'Gay Artist', i feel like they're making a difference between Gay and Straight Artists while there shouldn't be any. Art has nothing to do with sexual orientation.
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That's not true. Who you are is clearly is brought into your art and that goes for sexual orientation, skin color, or any other factor.
People who don't make art around the idea of themselves or other identifying factors is rare.
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Originally posted by The Best One Yet
Yes, but it's like saying 'Gay Artist', i feel like they're making a difference between Gay and Straight Artists while there shouldn't be any. Art has nothing to do with sexual orientation.
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Who are making a difference? You make It seem as though its a tag someone picked up. It's always the person who has advantage over you that gives you the classification. I'm "black" because a European man some years ago so it fit to classify people who originated from Africa as a sub-human species different and less civilized than "them". That worldview is already in place and whether or not I choose to associate myself with it (of which I'm proud) it will be used.
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Originally posted by RatedG²
That's not true. Who you are is clearly is brought into your art and that goes for sexual orientation, skin color, or any other factor.
People who don't make art around the idea of themselves or other identifying factors is rare.
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This just isn't true
Prince / Purple Rain
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I never meant to cause you any sorrow
I never meant to cause you any pain
I only wanted one time to see you laughing
I only want to see you laughing in the purple rain
Purple rain Purple rain
Purple rain Purple rain
Purple rain Purple rain
I only want to see you bathing in the purple rain
I never wanted to be your weekend lover
I only wanted to be some kind of friend
Baby I could never steal you from another
It's such a shame our friendship had to end
Purple rain Purple rain
Purple rain Purple rain
Purple rain Purple rain
I only want to see you underneath the purple rain
Honey I know, I know, I know times are changing
It's time we all reach out for something new
That means you too
You say you want a leader
But you can't seem to make up your mind
I think you better close it
And let me guide you to the purple rain
Purple rain Purple rain
Purple rain Purple rain
If you know what I'm singing about up here
C'mon raise your hand
Purple rain Purple rain
I only want to see you, only want to see you
In the purple rain
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Nothing in this song has anything to do with his sexuality or skin colour, so why would it be relevant to bring either of those things into discussion?
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It is a bit ironic maybe but the answer to your question is in the art of the very black women that you are denying praise of. Mama Tina's little speech in Solange's album said:
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What's irritating is when somebody says, "That's reverse racism!" or, "They have a Black History Month, but we don't have a White History Month!"
Well, all we've ever been taught is white history. So, why are you mad at that? Why does that make you angry? That is to suppress me and to make me not be proud
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There is a need to address Black excellence or Black beauty, culture, & idenitiy, because it has been suppressed for so long. Everyday is a praise and fanfare for white artists, a la the Oscars. There is no need to single it out. Three black female artists slaying this year is considered a win for the black women so what about the other number ones we have had all year. Only Rih got a No. 1 single, so what about the other No. 1 singles?
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Originally posted by Saintlor
This just isn't true
Prince / Purple Rain
Nothing in this song has anything to do with his sexuality or skin colour, so why would it be relevant to bring either of those things into discussion?
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It doesn't directly have to do with it all the time. But because of his upbringing and what he went through the type of music he makes is reflected in that. I assumed people knew this already.
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 @ not wanting to be classified as a "black" anything, because some how that lessens or cheapens your art or brand. Self-hating at its finest. Black has come a long way through American history. To be a black anything of great substance and talent should be a proud accomplishment. If minorities didn't have to suffer several centuries of misrepresentation, prejudice, racism, and bigotry that argument would make sense.
But since we have...
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I understand what the op is trying to say. We shouldn't be clapping like seals whenever a poc "makes it" because it implies it's a novelty and that hasn't been the case for like 60 years. But alas, this is the way it will always be.
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Member Since: 5/27/2016
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Originally posted by The Best One Yet
Why Billboard and other media write articles like '2016 Pop music dominated by Black Women'? I mean isn't that insulting, like i can't imagine they praising a group of white men or white women for being succesful.
I think they shouldn't make this kind of statements anymore. There is a lot of talented black people and white people, there's no difference, music is good or it's not.
I'm tired of Black artists, gay artists, white artists. All artists should be appreciated for what they do and not race, sexual orientation, etc.
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White mediocrity is praised all the time wyd?
Wasn't there an article saying 2016 was the year of Taylor swift....
Black women are still paid dust by the industry otherwise people like Jazmine Sullivan/Jennifer Hudson would be as huge as Adele & girls like tinashe wouldnt find it so hard to breakthrough.
The fact is music industry is still very much a white man's institution despite black folk being the overwhelming contributors to the culture.
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