[Sunshine.]

Originally posted by BoyOnBoy Wonder

There's a different between diplomacy and pure pacifism; another country interfering in our election isn't partisan, after all.

I think the issue there is that it shows as passive interference.

Originally posted by Bentley

You guys, theyre not saying Russia rigged or changes the vote.

They are saying Russia helped because they leaked all that mess about Hillary... so in turn, people didnt vote for her because her truths were exposed.

Nothing is going to change.

Meaning, it's a lot more challenging to frame it publicly as war-worthy.

[Bloo]

Originally posted by MrDeeds

"This is absolutely going to be seen as a stain on the DNC*; and rightfully so."



*Riots
*Paid actors
*Cheating with the assistance of the media (against Bernie & Trump)

You all still think the primaries were rigged against Bernie? Really? Provide some "proof" (as you are so obsessed with in regard to Russian hacking) that this took place and I'll take that claim more seriously. You can be anti-Hillary, but you do a terrible job of it.

Originally posted by Lord Blackout

Obama is just being a diplomat. You can't appreciate his decorum and temperament throughout his tenure and then be mad he acted differently before he left office. Like, you can't say Al Gore's refusal to stand up for the purged black voters in 2001 was a stain on his legacy.

See, I've always kind of been a huge critic of Obama for being a wimp on serious issues being afraid of taking a stand. It may be because he didn't want to be the stereotypical angry black man, but I've never appreciated his inability to be able to actually call out injustices in our political system to be a major weakness of his. Today just strengthened that view.

[BoyOnBoy Wonder]

Originally posted by MrDeeds

More personal attacks

I mean, he's a Norwegian white nationalist and has never claimed otherwise.

[Mr. Grey]

Originally posted by Sunshine.

Mr. Grey, it's time to start being more rational.

You can be against Hillary and not a total idiot. It betrays your points and reflects poorly on the rest of us who are also skeptical of Hillary's ilk (i.e. career politicians), but approach the topic with more discernment.

Your right, I should be more rational with my post so that other members can differentiate a Realist from a White Nationalist.

To be honest, Hillary could have become a great president, if only she wasn´t linked to the 1%, her trying to be at least honest for once and having the woman card everywhere she goes (that´s why 53% of women voted for Trump anyways).

But that is just a food for thought.

[Danny789]

Originally posted by MrDeeds

More personal attacks

He's just telling it like it is, just like our president elect

[RickyH.]

The subtle T**** drag

[DivaCup]

Originally posted by Mr. Grey

Your right, I should be more rational with my post so that other members can differentiate a Realist from a White Nationalist.

To be honest, Hillary could have become a great president, if only she wasn´t linked to the 1%, her trying to be at least honest for once and having the woman card everywhere she goes (that´s why 53% of women voted for Trump anyways).

But that is just a food for thought.

But Trump represents the 1% as well. He is apart of the 1%. It says on his website that he is the perfect example of the American dream [or something like that]

[Mr. Grey]

Originally posted by Bloo

You all still think the primaries were rigged against Bernie? Really? Provide some "proof" (as you are so obsessed with in regard to Russian hacking) that this took place and I'll take that claim more seriously. You can be anti-Hillary, but you do a terrible job of it.

Well, the whole of DNC didn´t complain when Bernie had the disadvantage (literally) during the primaries especially during Debbie´s time as the chairwoman of the DNC. But when Hillary lost, everyone from the left started complaining that the other side cheated. Why?

[MrDeeds]

Originally posted by BoyOnBoy Wonder

I mean, he's a Norwegian white nationalist and has never claimed otherwise.

Because you say? That's childish. Hillary lost, big time. Get over it.

[Bloo]

Originally posted by Mr. Grey

Your right, I should be more rational with my post so that other members can differentiate a Realist from a White Nationalist.

To be honest, Hillary could have become a great president, if only she wasn´t linked to the 1%, her trying to be at least honest for once and having the woman card everywhere she goes (that´s why 53% of women voted for Trump anyways).

But that is just a food for thought.

Correction:
- 53% of white women went for Trump.
- 54% of women went for Hillary.

[DivaCup]

well that was sort of a waste of time

[BoyOnBoy Wonder]

Originally posted by MrDeeds

Because you say? That's childish. Hillary lost, big time. Get over it.

Lol My immense hatred of white nationalists has nothing to do with my support of HRC.

[Bloo]

Originally posted by Mr. Grey

Well, the whole of DNC didn´t complain when Bernie had the disadvantage (literally) during the primaries especially during Debbie´s time as the chairwoman of the DNC. But when Hillary lost, everyone from the left started complaining that the other side cheated. Why?

What disadvantaged Bernie? Super delegates? Obama broke through that. The super delegate argument is invalid when there's a massive margin in popular vote, contests won, and pledged delegates. Also, please explain how a foreign government tried to help elect Hillary Clinton in the primaries in the way a foreign government tried to help elect Donald during the general election.

[MrDeeds]

Time to add Obama to the list.

Originally posted by MrDeeds

Post election riots: FAILED.
Jill Stein recount: FAILED.
Intimidation of EC members: FAILED.
"Fake news": FAILED.
"Russian hackers": ______

So pathetic.

[LuLuDrops]

BREAKING: China Seizes US Navy Ship In Likely Response To Trump http://dlvr.it/MvLQCd

Cozy up to Russia, but China has it in for us

[MrDeeds]

Originally posted by LuLuDrops

BREAKING: China Seizes US Navy Ship In Likely Response To Trump http://dlvr.it/MvLQCd

Cozy up to Russia, but China has it in for us

Why is Obama not taking actions?

[DivaCup]

Originally posted by LuLuDrops

BREAKING: China Seizes US Navy Ship In Likely Response To Trump http://dlvr.it/MvLQCd

Cozy up to Russia, but China has it in for us

I saw people on reddit talking about this.. and how it's kind of minor?

"captured a US Navy drone in the South China Sea, near the Philippines. The vehicle was not even a military one- its purpose was to check water salinity and temperature, more than likely as part of a climate change project."

[Mr. Grey]

Originally posted by Bloo

What disadvantaged Bernie? Super delegates? Obama broke through that. The super delegate argument is invalid when there's a massive margin in popular vote, contests won, and pledged delegates. Also, please explain how a foreign government tried to help elect Hillary Clinton in the primaries in the way a foreign government tried to help elect Donald during the general election.

I did not say that a foreign government tried to help Hillary, why would I ask that?

Of course Hillary got the advantage during the primaries, she was hyped as "It´s her turn" and been at the shadows of Obama since 2008. The DNC today was built steadily by Hillary herself after years and years. It was destined for her to be the Democratic Candidate until Sanders came along and made some of left question her.

One of the most liberal news networks of America conspiring with the DNC to disprove their own news anchor for being anti-DNC (aka asking Debbie to resign because of her bias against Sanders)

Even wiithin the DNC (Hillary Clinton supporters) are using their own governors to take advantage during the primaries that Bernie won.




xxx

[LuLuDrops]

Can we please bottle that Harry Reid juju and export it?

NV Pres: HRC
#nvsen: Dem
#nv03: GOP to Dem
#nv04: GOP to Dem
State Senate: GOP to Dem
Assembly: GOP to Dem

[Bloo]

Originally posted by Mr. Grey

I did not say that a foreign government tried to help Hillary, why would I ask that?

Of course Hillary got the advantage during the primaries, she was hyped as "It´s her turn" and been at the shadows of Obama since 2008. The DNC today was built steadily by Hillary herself after years and years. It was destined for her to be the Democratic Candidate until Sanders came along and made some of left question her.

One of the most liberal news networks of America conspiring with the DNC to disprove their own news anchor for being anti-DNC (aka asking Debbie to resign because of her bias against Sanders)

Even wiithin the DNC (Hillary Clinton supporters) are using their own governors to take advantage during the primaries that Bernie won.




xxx

Omg, wow. Democratic leadership wanted the candidate that had helped build the party and contributed to other Democrats across the country in election efforts for decades rather than the man that sued the party, called them all entirely corrupt, and only changed party registration to be a Democrat 3 months before the first caucus only for legibility purposes? Amazing. Who would have thought?

Democratic leadership wanting Hillary over Bernie doesn't change the fact that they outwardly did nothing to discredit his candidacy. They didn't vet or attack him. They didn't derail his legitimacy. They just simply didn't like him. If you expect 100% impartiality from politicians, or any human being, you're living in a different world than I do. Everyone has biases. But, they didn't outwardly act on them in a way that it would affect voters. Now, if you want to complain about reported super delegate commitments before the first contest, sure. But, Obama still broke through that in 2008.

At the end of the day, Hillary fairly won the primaries by all measures. The DNC leadership having a personal preference that they didn't announce to the country didn't change the fact that Hillary had a very comfortable victory against Sanders in the primaries.