[Suede]

cannot WAIT for the world peace that will ensue, Trump is stupid enough to just follow Putin's lead

[Javan]

Originally posted by hooky

All these people saying Bernie would have won is just.. no.

He would have had lower black voter turnout than Hillary did. Women would vote less in favor of him (although probably still a majority). And he'd lose blue collar votes to Trump because the right would be screaming "SOCIALIST!!!" the whole campaign.

IMO, no one but Trump was winning.

You think Bernie would have had a lower black voter turnout because Hillary polled higher with them during the primaries in most states. Yet the states in which Hillary had a dramatic advantage among black voters are all red states so they would have mode no difference in the GE. Black turnout is low because Hillary essentially left them behind as soon as she won the primaries, they are disillusioned.

And the "socialist" propaganda didn't stop Obama from winning in 2012... At the end of the day, it's not about Trump supporters or blacks, it's about the independents and millennials who come out in droves for Gary Johnson but could have easily swayed to Bernie.

[OurLuckyStrike]

I'm sick of seeing "SJW" thrown around in here. Everything isn't an act of SJWs. **** off.

[Sasha.]

I'm not sure if Hillary supporters are just bitter right now or if you really don't get it? Both Hillary and Obsma were two traditional establishment candidates with similar policies. Supporting the other one in the general election made sense.

Bernie's biggest appeal was that he is the opposite of Hillary. If your core issue is taking down the establishment then backing Hillary - someone who WILL keep status quo going - makes absolutely no sense.

[Gui Blackout]

Originally posted by OurLuckyStrike

I'm sick of seeing "SJW" thrown around in here. Everything isn't an act of SJWs. **** off.

And if anything we need SJW now more than ever

[Suede]

apparently a lot of people voted for Hennessy...?

[Ramos]

Originally posted by Gui Blackout

So you wanted them to be more tolerant with bigotry? Because that would've made all the difference?

No, but maybe a more conservative approach would have helped more. Looking at the results it's obvious that Americans were not ready for all that change at once.

[Sasha.]

Originally posted by OurLuckyStrike

I'm sick of seeing "SJW" thrown around in here. Everything isn't an act of SJWs. **** off.

Hillary supporters are working overtime to find a scapegoat for this failure instead of admitting that she was a terrible and flawed candidate

[jpow]

Originally posted by Citrus

Come thru Kamala/Tammy/Cory/Elizabeth 2020

Not here at all for Kamala but the others are a slay.

[Grown K]

Caitlyn right now:

[DancingShoes]

Originally posted by Sasha.

Hillary supporters are working overtime to find a scapegoat for this failure instead of admitting that she was a terrible and flawed candidate

This is true.

[Khal]

Even if a time traveller came from another dimension where Sanders ran and won, what's the point? Fact is, he didn't run and Trump won.

Sitting on your high horse and now lecturing people achieves what exactly? You're still caught in the same **** storm (except you're not american) as the people who did. Not sure what 'what ifs' achieves.

[Guero]

Originally posted by Suede

apparently a lot of people voted for Hennessy...?

17,000 people wrote Harambe or Hennessy as joke write-ins....

[Rusty]

Originally posted by Sasha.

Hillary supporters are working overtime to find a scapegoat for this failure instead of admitting that she was a terrible and flawed candidate

That was the theme for this year's election for all parties.

[Javan]

Originally posted by Alejandrawrrr

It's unfair to say, but he had a chunk of the electorate that generally doesn't vote. He would have always won the core democratic base, who votes every election cycle (which carried Hillary to the win), but the difference is, young people like me who voted in the primaries for him but didn't bother showing up the in general would have carried him to a win, just like we did for Obama. Democrats NEED to energize young voters, when we get great turnouts, we generally win. The data posted in this thread of republican turnout roughly the same (a bit lower this election cycle) compared to Romney/McCain is a perfect example of that... Republicans didn't win, Democrats lost. Obama increased turnout from people beyond the usual voters... Bernie likely would have. Hillary didn't.

Don't forget, for the vast majority of the democratic primary (prior to the mainstream media slandering him and his supporters with accusations of sexism and insinuations of racism), polls consistently showed that Clinton supporters (more likely voters) were favorable to Sanders and would have easily fell in line behind him. The same polls showed that the opposite was not true, most of us were first time voters who liked his message (particularly because it ran contrary to politicians like Hillary Clinton) and didn't care about any other candidates. Should it be that way? No, and if I lived in a state that wasn't deep blue I probably would have found time to vote for Clinton. But it is what it is. Bernie would have had the Clinton coalition by and large, plus the young people and independents he brought in, most of whom abstained (or voted Stein/Harambe ).

[NewRihannaStan]

a travesty right now. I cannot

[Achilles.]

I really think the democrats need to play safe with a white man in 2020, which is bad because all of the names we've thrown around the past several months have been POC / women.

[PULSE.]

This is a nightmare

[D_Man3379]

Man, seeing her win the popular vote makes this loss even more hard to sink in.

[Lord Blackout]

Hillary is a brilliant politician but she was not the right candidate. Too many scandals and investigations (all of which end up nowhere but they get people talking)

But that doesn't clear Liberalosers from the blame as well. Lazy mother****ers