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Discussion: Once Beyonce fades...then what?
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Elvis
The Beatles
Cher
Barbra Streisand
David Bowie
Michael Jackson
Madonna
Prince
Whitney Houston
etc.
The superstar era started in the 1950's and ended in the 90's.
Humanity hasn't really experienced any paradigm shift since the end of the 20th century and supserstars are usually born in volatile times. Pop culture in general is just too oversaturated and unfocused.
None of these contemporary pop stars (Rihanna, Bruno, Taylor, Gaga etc.) will ever be as legendary and influential as the REAL stars because society has changed. Life was relatively simple back then so pop music was a huge part in people's life. Nowadays everything is instant and all over the place so it doesn't really allow a single juggernaut cultural force to develop.
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Originally posted by JustActinUP
Fade?!? Beyonce isn't going anywhere. That foundation is solid. The era of the mega superstar ended with Beyonce's generation( JT, Britney, Pink,Xtina, Pink & Usher). Her generation preceded the 80s mega superstars They had privileged of growing up listening and being inspired by them. The current generation is doomed. Nobody wants to putting in the work to perfect their craft. It's now all about instant fame.
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Gurl please.
Taylor, Adele, Gaga, Rih, Katy are arguable bigger than Beyonce`s generation (even though they have an advantage to release albums at the peak of sales)
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P!nk, Bey and JT are not going anywhere.
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Originally posted by chiliam
Gurl please.
Taylor, Adele, Gaga, Rih, Katy are arguable bigger than Beyonce`s generation (even though they have an advantage to release albums at the peak of sales)
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Taylor, Adele, Gaga, Rih, Katy are NOT bigger than Beyonce or Britney or JT or JLo or Usher or Eminem in terms of star power at their peak. Only Gaga's superstardom peak could be compared to the older generations.
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Originally posted by Tutankhamun
Taylor, Adele, Gaga, Rih, Katy are NOT bigger than Beyonce or Britney or JT or JLo or Usher or Eminem in terms of star power at their peak. Only Gaga's superstardom peak could be compared to the older generations.
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I love all of the artists you mention. So maybe not bigger but those two generation can be compared, they`re on pair.
Gaga, Taylor and Taylor all have huge peak with the media going crazy for them, only Britney from that generation can compare.
While Katy and Rihanna are already bigger hit makers than most of them.
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I mean this thread has been made multiple times in some sort of variation (I'm guilty of it too)
We just need to accept the fact that record labels would rather make quick money than promote and develop a long-lasting superstar. Blame the execs for being bad at their jobs.
I don't even think it's a nostalgia factor/being out of touch, most mainstream artists to have debuted in the 2010's are objectively untalented. You're more likely to hear an artist that CAN'T actually sing than can on Mainstream Top 40 radio. That has nothing to do with nostalgia. Talent just doesn't win nowadays... :/
Pop music is in a bad state right now. The early 2010's stars are getting stale (sorry Katy, Rihanna, Gaga, and Bruno) and the new ones are boring and lackluster and are literally the worst crop of popstars the industry has ever had (Meghan Trainor, Ariana Grande, Selena Gomez, Charlie Puth,  )
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I think we have to accept that we have to lower our standarts now. Nothing like britney and gaga will happen again, but I think if you play ur cards right as an artist u could be huge! I mean Ariana is kinda here but not like super populair. I think she still has yet to prove herself but she is the 'newest' pop girl out here if u ask me.
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Originally posted by alestevens
Ariana Grande is a megastar. Her arena tours sell nicely, her latest album is mostly at 1M WW, has 2 streaming hits and she currently has another smash with Side To Side. Not to mention the amount of hits under her belt despite coming out like 3 years ago!  |
I knew i loved u for a reason 
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Originally posted by alestevens
Ariana Grande is a megastar. Her arena tours sell nicely, her latest album is mostly at 1M WW, has 2 streaming hits and she currently has another smash with Side To Side. Not to mention the amount of hits under her belt despite coming out like 3 years ago! |
I mean she's pretty big but she's no mega star lbr. Sis is not iconic at all, has no #1, has no million selling album, has no iconic moments... I guess the donut thing and that's being VERY generous. Little influence so far.
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Originally posted by Bey_Rihstan
I mean she's pretty big but she's no mega star lbr. Sis is not iconic at all, has no #1, has no million selling album, has no iconic moments... I guess the donut thing and that's being VERY generous. Little influence so far.
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Originally posted by Bey_Rihstan
I mean she's pretty big but she's no mega star lbr. Sis is not iconic at all, has no #1, has no million selling album, has no iconic moments... I guess the donut thing and that's being VERY generous. Little influence so far.
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so shes the one to blame? its not her fault she was born into a streaming generation. She has the talent and so do many other pop stars today but its completely different. Music sales are horrible for most artists. They don't have places like TRL to promote. social media is way more distracting now and radio is hardy influential. 
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In terms of this gen, Ariana is their only hope.
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Originally posted by OpenBacardi
People forget it takes time to become a legend. You're looking at your future legends right now but they're still quite new so you can't see it yet. I see Bruno Mars, The Weeknd, Lana Del Rey, all who debuted this decade...
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Lana?
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I really thought Gaga could be it.
She had EVERYTHING going for her, she was unstoppable.
But then she screwed it all up.
She was the most exciting artist to watch and now she's boring. It's so sad.
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She's not, she's an acquaintance to the Clintons now.
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I think Bey is gonna be the Cher-type with fame across many decades. I'm not worried about pop after she "fades." I'm sure we're gonna get a random girl just come in and WRECK the game just like she did, just like Brit did. There WILL be another No, No, No - Part 2 (the remix) and there WILL be another BOMT. Life is beautiful that way.
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Originally posted by Tutankhamun
Taylor, Adele, Gaga, Rih, Katy are NOT bigger than Beyonce or Britney or JT or JLo or Usher or Eminem in terms of star power at their peak. Only Gaga's superstardom peak could be compared to the older generations.
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Oh believe me, Adele's starpower is definitely bigger than those you mentioned, hence her breaking Britney's record for biggest female debut week, and also Eminem's for a solo artist and NSYNC's overall record, while also having an album that outsold any album released by everyone mentioned in your post (except for Britney and Eminem, she actually has 2 albums that sold more than the others' biggest). Her tour also sold out nearly instantly, having outgrossed any Britney, JLo or Usher tour already, and it still has a few dates left (with enough demand to add as many dates as she pleases).
Regarding the others, they may not be bigger than the previous generation but they're definitely on par. In everything but album sales they're doing similar (if not better) than the previous generation did!
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That's not starpower. Susan Boyle also holds a sales record.
Comeback when Adele does this 4-5 times.
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Yeah POP was dead before Gaga arrived too, like yeah Rihanna had a spark or 2 with Umbrella and GGGB, and then POP was **** again, suddenly it was so LIT with Gaga, Katy, Beyonce returning better than ever, Rihanna returning better than ever and so on...
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Originally posted by Mariano
Yeah POP was dead before Gaga arrived too, like yeah Rihanna had a spark or 2 with Umbrella and GGGB, and then POP was **** again, suddenly it was so LIT with Gaga, Katy, Beyonce returning better than ever, Rihanna returning better than ever and so on...
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Umbrella was released in 2007. The GGGB era began in 07 and ended in 09.
How exactly does Gaga fit in and stir things up in pop? Other than people being shocked by her outlandish outfits? Her debut coincided rather than stir anything. As inaccurate as Gaga bringing dance pop theory 
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