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Discussion: U.S. Election 2016
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Originally posted by Achilles.
“...People who think I’m gay, some part of me thinks it’s wonderful. Because I want to challenge people on their homophobia. I love seeing on Twitter when someone says I’m gay, and I say, ‘So what does it matter if I am? So be it. I hope you are not voting for me because you are making the presumption that I’m straight”
Make of that statement what you will.
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Mess. I was hoping for a confirmation.
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Member Since: 7/21/2012
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Originally posted by Meh
I think Rachel Maddow said on her show that Cory Booker isn't gay. But if he remains single until his presidential run, the rumors are gonna fly.
Has a presidential candidate ever run as a bachelor? Lemme write this screenplay real quick.  |
Yeah James Buchanan was single and historians say evidence points to him being gay.
His niece was First Lady. Yeah the times they lived in. 
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Originally posted by Reza
Mess. I was hoping for a confirmation.
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Trump hinted at it on Twitter some months back. So it's def being flying around the political world. He's almost 50 and not in a relationship so...... Not saying he is, but yeah.
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Member Since: 5/27/2016
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Originally posted by King Maxx
Yeah James Buchanan was single and historians say evidence points to him being gay.
His niece was First Lady. Yeah the times they lived in. |
I can't imagine a presidential candidate today who would run single. The First Lady (or Gentleman) role has become so much more of a performance. Who would represent him in the cookie recipe contest? Gayle? (Talk about a fitting friendship )
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Member Since: 7/21/2012
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Originally posted by Meh
I can't imagine a presidential candidate today who would run single. The First Lady (or Gentleman) role has become so much more of a performance. Who would represent him in the cookie recipe contest? Gayle? (Talk about a fitting friendship ) |
I mean a former model who did nude and barely speaks English came very close.  A self proclaimed billionaire who wants to nuke the entire Eastern Hemisphere was very close to the presidency. Conventional wisdom is going out the window.
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Member Since: 5/27/2016
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I hope you mentioned in your documentary her support of a fascist coup in Honduras, urging Bill to bomb Serbia, which killed tons of civilians, the shady Clinton Foundation dealings (particularly in Haiti), her role with Libya, her support of Iraq, how she supported the death squads in Nicaragua in the 80s, her support and defence of her husband's support for very pro-Wall Street deals that were a key factor in the '08 crash, her love for fracking and widespread and increased surveillance. Then how she's flip-flopped on gay marriage, waterboarding, the embargo on Cuba, TTP, and No Child Left Behind.
Lots to mention there for progressive Clinton who has always cared about ordinary folk 
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Originally posted by King Maxx
Trump hinted at it on Twitter some months back. So it's def being flying around the political world. He's almost 50 and not in a relationship so...... Not saying he is, but yeah.
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I forgot about that  he's so disgusting
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Originally posted by Jacketh
I hope you mentioned in your documentary her support of a fascist coup in Honduras, urging Bill to bomb Serbia, which killed tons of civilians, the shady Clinton Foundation dealings (particularly in Haiti), her role with Libya, her support of Iraq, how she supported the death squads in Nicaragua in the 80s, her support and defence of her husband's support for very pro-Wall Street deals that were a key factor in the '08 crash, her love for fracking and widespread and increased surveillance. Then how she's flip-flopped on gay marriage, waterboarding, the embargo on Cuba, TTP, and No Child Left Behind.
Lots to mention there for progressive Clinton who has always cared about ordinary folk |
Scottie is that you?
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Member Since: 3/15/2013
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Whew, the republican party is finished. Trump supporters are pissed at Paul Ryan, etc.
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Why doesn't Hillary appoint Bernie to the Supreme Court? He's already age-appropriate for the job 
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by Jacketh
I hope you mentioned in your documentary her support of a fascist coup in Honduras, urging Bill to bomb Serbia, which killed tons of civilians, the shady Clinton Foundation dealings (particularly in Haiti), her role with Libya, her support of Iraq, how she supported the death squads in Nicaragua in the 80s, her support and defence of her husband's support for very pro-Wall Street deals that were a key factor in the '08 crash, her love for fracking and widespread and increased surveillance. Then how she's flip-flopped on gay marriage, waterboarding, the embargo on Cuba, TTP, and No Child Left Behind.
Lots to mention there for progressive Clinton who has always cared about ordinary folk |
She's a secretary of state. Of course she's gonna engage in warfare like all of her precedents. ****ing fruitcake
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Member Since: 5/27/2016
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Originally posted by Lord Blackout
She's a secretary of state. Of course she's gonna engage in warfare like all of her precedents. ****ing fruitcake
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Aside from Libya and Honduras nothing mentioned there happened when she was Secretary of State lol. And just because you're Secretary of State, doesn't mean you have to be on the wrong side of history and support fascist coups. Most, in fact, do not. John Kerry, in fact, has been quite a tame and very diplomatic Secretary of State.
Stay mad.
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Originally posted by Jacketh
Aside from Libya and Honduras nothing mentioned there happened when she was Secretary of State lol. And just because you're Secretary of State, doesn't mean you have to be on the wrong side of history and support fascist coups. Most, in fact, do not.
Stay mad.
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TPP was also during her tenure as SoS. And you'd have to be deluded to claim her war crimes are remotely worse than those of Condoleezza and Powell. And you seem to forget Bill was president at some point. Which means that much like any other president he's engaged in warfare as well. As, of course, did Obama too and heavily so. Let's stop acting as if presidents and secretaries of state will ever or have ever been totally peaceful and live in the real world.
Also, Hillary may have opposed gay marriage but she fully supported civil unions with the same rights as marriage. Guess who else held the same position? Obama. Yet during their dual tenure as SoS and POTUS, there was an unprecedented betterment of LGBT rights in America. So whatever personal beliefs they may or may not still hold clearly do no get in the way of anything so not sure why it's a problem of yours. And shady Clinton Foundation? Give me a break. The foundation has every year of its tax returns out there. The Clintons have every year of their tax returns out there. They've paid an average of 30% in taxes AND 30% in charitable donations. There's no couple in Washington that's had their financial info disclosed as much as the Clintons. The foundation has made initiatives around the world, gotten top ratings from every independent charity watchdog, and saved tens of millions of lives in Africa from the AIDS epidemic. Just because a couple of Haitians protest, it doesn't make their plight legitimate. That's why there was no lawsuit. They had nothing on them but hearsay. The US handled the Haiti earthquake badly but there is zero proof the foundation (which was one of the many foundations involved) stole any money. It's funny to hear criticism of the foundation from supporters of politicians that do little to no charity only to come out during election season to pose as the good guys though *ehem* Jill Stein
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Finish him tonight, Hillary. No respect for anyone who still supports that man.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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John Kerry has not been quite tame. Stop rewriting history. Just in the past month, we killed like 60 Syrian soldiers "by accident"
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The bombshell Donald Trump video that surfaced Friday has so dramatically altered expectations for Sunday’s town hall debate that one Democrat close to Bill and Hillary Clinton had a new view of what may unfold in St. Louis: “Expect Armageddon.”
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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How will they turn the debate into a mess? It's literally a townhall. They can't twist people's questions to start a fight. That's a sure way to lose the debate nn
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Member Since: 1/4/2014
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Originally posted by Meh
I can't imagine a presidential candidate today who would run single. The First Lady (or Gentleman) role has become so much more of a performance. Who would represent him in the cookie recipe contest? Gayle? (Talk about a fitting friendship ) |
Grover Cleveland was a bachelor when he ran for president...but he married his wife Frances in a White House wedding.
Another fun fact about the Clevelands is the Baby Ruth candy bars got their name from their daughter Ruth
Lindsay Graham is a bachelor...and he ran for president so I don't see the big deal?
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I expect Hil to do something similar to what Kaine did in that she will compare and contrast her plans with Trump's while also goading him to attack. But I agree, the focus should be on connecting with the questioners and the people watching at home.
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Hillary should appoint a liberal 30-40 year old to the court tbh.. lock in a liberal vote for half a century or so
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