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Lana duck fad has the best discography from anyone in the history of music
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NoseGa booked SB only cuz Adele had declined to perform.
Guess second best is all NFL will ever know.
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Originally posted by Sunshine.
And I want to address this separately, cause no it's not like that at all. Lemonade builds on the emotions in each segment of the film.
Intuition, Denial, Anger, Apathy, etc.
Which is open ended enough to visually manifest in any way. That's the smart thing about this project, the foundation is broad and open to interpretation. That wouldn't be the case if it was as literal as ya'll want it to be. 
Like Lemonade is just a GOOD album/movie project. That's it. |
what does this have to do with anything? 
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And again. Where is the standard on how/when/where to address race issues?
You're just continuing on making up arbitrary rules of how an artist should develop their racial identity politics. I've literally gotten nothing from you other than that Beyonce isn't doing it "the right way! But Kendrick is!"
It could very well be that the concept started as a relationship album, but she wanted to build on it to encompass all the other injustices, racial and gender included (6 Inch), that black women face. Or it could have very well been the other way around, that she had a concept of race she wanted to address, but decided to dress it up in a more digestible package to reach the most people possible.
But like, none of that matters. At all. I don't understand why that would even be the point of discussion. Unless your only motivation was to discredit her work for w/e reason. fff. Cause the impact of it has been observable from the jump. Formation is about "nappy hair" but here you have politicians, police departments, and news commentators dissecting its political connotations. So whether it "pointed" to race or it was the central theme is subjective.
The reality of the matter is that it has played a role in propelling discussions on race since its inception. That's it. That's all that will ever matter in regard to whether or not Lemonade is an album about race. Not the nuances of whether the lyrics say anything specifically about it (and they do in Freedom). lol
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so for you it doesnt really matter whether lemonade (album) talks or not directly about race issues, because the film started the whole conversation and thats it? just admit the album alone doesnt carry that concept, its not difficult. throw that towel.
just think about it, had beyonce not released the film, would you think, from listening the album alone, that it was about POC's issues?
you dont need to answer me. 
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The original context of digging up that quote was to show katara, who worships Nicole, that non-hive members were involved saying racist things about Rihanna for its own sake.
While the Hive mostly did it in retaliation to the Navy's "skin bleaching" idiocy.
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Originally posted by CakeLike
Lana duck fad has the best discography from anyone in the history of music
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ugh so true, Fad is a close second
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Originally posted by CakeLike
Lana duck fad has the best discography from anyone in the history of music
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I don't think so. All of her songs sound the same.
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Originally posted by CakeLike
Lana duck fad has the best discography from anyone in the history of music
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poor fad
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Originally posted by Sunshine.
Now exposing racism is a bad thing?
Why are you defending what Nicole said? You sound like a Trump supporter. |
yeah im sure you're using it for that
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What r you looking at
strike a pose
vogue
vogue vogue
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Originally posted by ultraviolento
what does this have to do with anything?
so for you it doesnt really matter whether lemonade (album) talks or not directly about race issues, because the film started the whole conversation and thats it? just admit the album alone doesnt carry that concept, its not difficult. throw that towel.
just think about it, had beyonce not released the film, would you think, from listening the album alone, that it was about POC's issues?
you dont need to answer me. |
Do the individual songs convey a race narrative? No, except for maybe Freedom. But then not every song on there explicitly states a bad relationship. Formation, Forward, Freedom, 6 Inch don't say anything about a relationship in their lyrics. So taken out of context they're not even about a relationship.
Now does the album as a whole convey the race narrative, yes? Because it's an all inclusive project. You can't buy the album w/o the movie, remember? It's a reason why it's $20.
What you shouldn't be doing however, is trying to deconstruct the entire meaning of the album on the basis of its metaphorical skin.
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SeLegend won.
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Lemonade the album itself is not correlated to race very strongly.
Lemonade the era (bundled with the imagery) is more representative of racial disparity and black pride.
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Transparent is everything I love about television  easily my all time fav show
Masters of Sex ha decline  a Gags tea |
Ikr? This season was so good
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Beyoncé makes money whether she includes these things in her works or not.
If she doesn't speak on them: "She's playing it safe to avoid alienating her fanbase!"
If she does speak on them: "She's trying to profit off of a movement that's bigger than her!"
Take for example people criticizing her for not speaking out about the shootings, then criticizing her for not doing it the "right" way.
So, I never pay mind to those things. What's always more important is the impact of those actions. 
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this is gonna be amazing 
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Originally posted by Sunshine.
Do the individual songs convey a race narrative? No, except for maybe Freedom. But then not every song on there explicitly states a bad relationship. Formation, Forward, Freedom, 6 Inch don't say anything about a relationship in their lyrics. So taken out of context they're not even about a relationship.
Now does the album as a whole convey the race narrative, yes? Because it's an all inclusive project. You can't buy the album w/o the movie, remember? It's a reason why it's $20.
What you shouldn't be doing however, is trying to deconstruct the entire meaning of the album on the basis of its metaphorical skin.
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you're trying so hard to make lemonade seems like a work of political statement, its almost sad. you're basically saying that in the grand scheme of things, 1 song about race issues weights more, regarding the entire concept of the album, than 6 songs about a bad relationship.
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Now does the album as a whole convey the race narrative, yes?
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keyword: album
the answer to your question? no
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Now does the project (album+video) as a whole convey the race narrative, yes?
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yes
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Rihanna is the first successful black woman with a wide nose.
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Bruno Mars' SB HS budget was like $1000.
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Originally posted by Raster
Lemonade the album itself is not correlated to race very strongly.
Lemonade the era (bundled with the imagery) is more representative of racial disparity and black pride.
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everyone but sunshine (and her minions) seems to agree with this
i dont know why shes fighting it so hard, theres no shame bby girl. just admit it.
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