[Rico Shameless v2]

Originally posted by Dickard

Don't try to make it like I was insinuating something I was not.
Not generic =/= rock song

Reading comprehension is a wonderful thing.

That's what has been echoing amongst the monsters calling it indie / rock the last week and a half. And since you think it isn't generic, I'm grouping you with the rest. Insinuation or not.

See you still failed to explain how it isn't generic (if not more than MM), yet zoned in insults.

[heartbeats]

Originally posted by Brinny Baby

Yes but PI had Spotify Impact while Rise was an AM Exclusive. PI even made the Top 10 on Spotify's Impact Chart which is also called the Payola Chart so it still had a big push even though its music video isn't out yet.

Furthermore, Rise's video wasn't even the official one It also didn't have a radio deal unlike PI.

ugh love when facts are being served!

[TalkThatRihanna]

This just shows how impressive Work's sales are when most people dragged the hell out of it at the time.

Sold 126K in 2 days and went on to sell 1.7M pure sales and 1.4M copies were given out for free.

[Stitches.]

Not that bad.
At least, it did better than Not Myself Tonight

[MusicTalker]

The "OGH" term is kinda stupid tbh, like I doubt a lot of her detractors rn hated her from the beginning if that's what it's supposed to mean. It should be taken into account that her image/music is completely different than what it used to be, so naturally some people are not gonna like that. I don't think someone has to remain "loyal" to an artist if they no longer like them and they have the right to criticize them on this forum. Gaga has been a fixture on here for years, so anytime a pop staple releases a single, people are gonna watch it intently, for better or worse.

[OnlyManInTheWorld]

It's a real life tragedy, not to mention the song has literally died on iTunes. A complete disaster.

[Auburn]

Yikes...

[romonster]

Originally posted by RoarRiteNow1

So are you saying PI will sell 137k+ next week from the video boost?

I literally never said anything of the sort, RoarRiteNow1. Please stop twisting my words.
Point was that she should have released the video in the first week if she wanted a Top 10 debut.

[OmegaRidley]

http://atrl.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1025632&page=39

Well well karma is really a bitch isn't she ?

[OmegaRidley]

Originally posted by romonster

I literally never said anything of the sort, RoarRiteNow1. Please stop twisting my words.
Point was that she should have released the video in the first week if she wanted a Top 10 debut.

Oh hey romonster !

what do you think of PI numbers ?

Rise was a flop for you so what is this ?

[Shaner69]

Originally posted by OmegaRidley

Oh hey romonster !

what do you think of PI numbers ?

Rise was a flop for you so what is this ?

How come the monsters don't get banned when they treat everyone like crap and spam threads with a flop artist.

[One Nation]

Originally posted by MusicTalker

The "OGH" term is kinda stupid tbh, like I doubt a lot of her detractors rn hated her from the beginning if that's what it's supposed to mean. It should be taken into account that her image/music is completely different than what it used to be, so naturally some people are not gonna like that. I don't think someone has to remain "loyal" to an artist if they no longer like them and they have the right to criticize them on this forum. Gaga has been a fixture on here for years, so anytime a pop staple releases a single, people are gonna watch it intently, for better or worse.

Thank you

[LadyGagaStan93]

Originally posted by MusicTalker

The "OGH" term is kinda stupid tbh, like I doubt a lot of her detractors rn hated her from the beginning if that's what it's supposed to mean. It should be taken into account that her image/music is completely different than what it used to be, so naturally some people are not gonna like that. I don't think someone has to remain "loyal" to an artist if they no longer like them and they have the right to criticize them on this forum. Gaga has been a fixture on here for years, so anytime a pop staple releases a single, people are gonna watch it intently, for better or worse.

The OGH term is directed at those who have been haters since the beginning. Or for a long period of time, not fans who have jumped ship. Although, let's be real Atrl has had a fixation on her since she blew up that's besides the point really. You can't call her over in 2013 and then say you expected her to smash in 2016. So is she really over now?

[Lady Claire]

Queen of Pop

[istan4badgalriri]

Needed Me is only down 2 spots (#11)

Longevity

[Jamie£er]

Eh, not really bad but not really good. Hopefully it manages to rebound somehow. Even if it doesn't it's still a great song, but I would like to see at least 1 TV performance pls Gaga! Can't wait for the video and album tho!

[GoneHome]

I knew the predicted streams were a bit low.

Personally, I predicted 120-140K for Gaga (lowest predictions) so 100K is very disappointing. Hopefully the song can come back to life on the charts

[popmusic]

Originally posted by alexanderao

I had said 8-9M streams as well, but I thought I was being a bit conservative when I said that.

Where can it drop to next week? #40-50 range (accounting for the video)? Lower?

13k sales = 13 points
5m streams = 42 points (I doubt that MV will have good streaming)
31m AI = 30 points
Total: 85 points

According to Sim's predictions, its #45 - #50 on Hot100.

[Mattyboy]

Top 15 is better than nothing. Anything less and it would have been a disaster.

[LoKoPaNdA]

Originally posted by popmusic

13k sales = 13 points
5m streams = 42 points (I doubt that MV will have good streaming)
31m AI = 30 points
Total: 85 points

According to Sim's predictions, its #45 - #50 on Hot100.

Looks like mainly airplay is keeping it afloat