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Discussion: U.S. Election 2016
Member Since: 11/28/2011
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Originally posted by King Maxx
Yeah and no. There have been at least six people within the last page saying the same thing.
I honestly don't see what she can do differently and her campaign acknowledge the same earlier this week.
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Well I think she's doing the best she can with her weak sauce platform. At the end of the day, the problem isn't really the way she is getting the message across but the message itself. It's more of the same, nobody wants more of the same.
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Member Since: 5/21/2009
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Originally posted by King Maxx
Hmm. Okay political strategists. What does Hillary have to do differently to get her message across?
How does she force the media to play her speeches when all they care about is talking about tax returns? If it's anything I can say about her, is that she is still fighting against the trash media she's working with?
I mean she's not a fun, charismatic person so she'll never have a platform where she comes off likable according to the standards we expect of her.
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To be fair, maybe there isn't much she can do differently to get her message across. I feel like Obama tackled alot of core social issues during his presidency that didn't leave much room for Hillary to have any noteworthy plans (which is likely why she probably dislikes him so much).
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Member Since: 8/7/2015
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Originally posted by Lord Blackout
Wait a minute, if he's truly anti-establishment then there's no way he'd get the electoral votes. The college was built to protect America from the stupidity of its voters.
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Too bad that failed twice this millennial.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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The Democratic candidate for the House in my district has received less than $1,500 in contributions since the start of her campaign  I hate Texas.
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Member Since: 2/2/2014
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Originally posted by Lord Blackout
Yeah, the media is garbage. Hopefully after how Trump did them yesterday, they'll be giving her more air time. The problem is he has a lot of people in his campaign that practically control the media.
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But tbh, I hardly see her people available for different segments of shows. Either that, or when they are on, they are talking about another Trump mess, making the case against Trump and not for Hillary. Probably just the reality, but I hope they find a better way to penetrate the national media.
Though, I think they were doing well with local media until her virtual absence from the trail in August?
Thankfully it looks like things are picking up again though.
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Originally posted by Temporal
The Democratic candidate for the House in my district has received less than $1,500 in contributions since the start of her campaign I hate Texas. |
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Member Since: 5/27/2016
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Interesting Politico piece on Hillary
http://www.politico.com/magazine/sto...parency-214250
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She wasn’t always like this. She wasn’t always a woman who could almost collapse in public, then emerge from seclusion a couple of hours later announcing, “I’m feeling great,” as if nothing had happened, as if she hadn’t already known for two days that she had pneumonia. And her opponents didn’t always accuse her of a “lack of transparency”—be it over Benghazi or a bacterial infection—the now-reflexive instinct that her fellow Democrat David Axelrod denounced this week as “an unhealthy penchant for privacy that repeatedly creates unnecessary problems.”
No, Hillary Rodham Clinton was once willing to share her deepest thoughts and feelings, as she did in a 1993 speech on “the politics of meaning,” delivered as her father lay dying, in which she said the country was suffering “a sleeping sickness of the soul,” and urged her fellow citizens “to remold society by redefining what it means to be a human being in the 20th century.”
Her reward? She was roundly, relentlessly ridiculed, most infamously in a New York Times cover story, titled “Saint Hillary,” by the late Michael Kelly, in which she expounded at even greater length on her personal passions, unaware that Kelly would use them to mock her for high-minded earnestness. In those interviews, the public Hillary Clinton was altogether different than the one the public sees today: less guarded, more candid, far more eager to embrace the “larger message” she’s so often criticized for lacking now. When Kelly suggested to her that she was “trying to come up with a sort of unified-field theory of life,” she responded in what he described as “excited” tones: "That's right, that's exactly right!"
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Member Since: 3/5/2011
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Originally posted by King Maxx
Because Republicans think she's too out there with her platform. They went after her for working with Bernie. There are liberals in the party that think she is too moderate. This is a fact.
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I don't get why people say Hillary is focusing too much on Trump. She mentions him like twice in her speeches. The other 95% is on her plans. Not her daily the media focuses on what portion. Same goes for Trump.
It's the media and voters who care more about personality than anything.
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Have you seen her Twitter feed? It's literally one Trump post after the other.
Also, she has (some) policies that would actually garner bipartisan support but got some reason she doesn't focus on them (like the free college for families making under 125K + the min wage going up nearly 2x).
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Hillary's lead was a perfect illusion
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Member Since: 3/5/2011
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She's just so poor at messaging. Free college (which is what it is, no one cares about the fine print) is quite literally the easiest thing to sell (thanks Bernie!) , and she still has her surrogates clogging up CNN and MSNBC whining about Trump.
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by Damien M
She's just so poor at messaging. Free college (which is what it is, no one cares about the fine print) is quite literally the easiest thing to sell (thanks Bernie!) , and she still has her surrogates clogging up CNN and MSNBC whining about Trump.
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Not when people go "How will you pay for it???" and "That's fiscally irresponsible" and "Socialist!!!"
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Member Since: 7/21/2012
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Originally posted by Damien M
Have you seen her Twitter feed? It's literally one Trump post after the other.
Also, she has (some) policies that would actually garner bipartisan support but got some reason she doesn't focus on them (like the free college for families making under 125K + the min wage going up nearly 2x).
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Originally posted by Damien M
She's just so poor at messaging. Free college (which is what it is, no one cares about the fine print) is quite literally the easiest thing to sell (thanks Bernie!) , and she still has her surrogates clogging up CNN and MSNBC whining about Trump.
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Yeah I don't like that either, but she doesn't run it so I doubt she knows what's being posted 24/7.
And I don't think her policies are the problem. It's literally the Democrats' platform in a nutshell. The problem is this world we live in where a president has to "charismatic" and that's fine with everyone.
Reagan was charismatic, but back then you actually had to have policies and a vision. Now it's like **** it, and Hillary doesn't know how to do both (but when she does come off excited, it's like she's screaming). She's a better behind the scenes girl than the face of the brand. And that's something I'm excited to see. We haven't seen a president like that in decades.
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Wake County, NC, the county with the largest number of registered voters in the state gets even more early voting locations  Its population is 1/3 minorities with over 21% black so work it, guys 
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Here’s a guide to when in-person early voting starts in key states. (Absentee ballots may go out at different times.)
September
23: Idaho, Minnesota, South Dakota, Vermont, Wyoming
24: New Jersey
29: Illinois, Iowa, North Dakota
October
9: Maine
10: California, Nebraska
11: Montana, New Mexico
12: Arizona, Indiana, Ohio
17: Georgia
19: Kansas, Tennessee
20: North Carolina
21: Washington
22: Nevada
24: Alaska, Arkansas, Colorado, Massachusetts, Texas, Wisconsin
25: Hawaii, Louisiana, Utah
26: West Virginia
27: Maryland
28: Washington, D.C.
29: Florida
November
3: Oklahoma
Can't wait to cast mine 
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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The action officially starts next week 
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Since Iowa's starting soon I want to see Team HillBama there STAT 
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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"Trump already has campaigned in Iowa four times during the general election. Clinton has been in Iowa once and held a Labor Day event in the Quad Cities, just across the river from Iowa in western Illinois."
Kaine's going to IA on Monday
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
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He's back !
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Member Since: 5/27/2016
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anti-trump panelists yet they LIVE on covering hillary's health and sensationalising it, and barely giving him any attention
I will never understand why people call CNN "Clinton News Network" when they love throwing in negative media circles on clinton 
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Member Since: 3/15/2013
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The one thing that drove millennials to Bernie the most was the free college thing. Hillary needs to be out PROMOTING that **** if she wants to get them out to vote.
Free college will never happen but at least use it to get them out to vote. Then try to get colleges to lower the cost and refinance loans once you're in office.
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by LuLuDrops
Here’s a guide to when in-person early voting starts in key states. (Absentee ballots may go out at different times.)
September
23: Idaho, Minnesota, South Dakota, Vermont, Wyoming
24: New Jersey
29: Illinois, Iowa, North Dakota
October
9: Maine
10: California, Nebraska
11: Montana, New Mexico
12: Arizona, Indiana, Ohio
17: Georgia
19: Kansas, Tennessee
20: North Carolina
21: Washington
22: Nevada
24: Alaska, Arkansas, Colorado, Massachusetts, Texas, Wisconsin
25: Hawaii, Louisiana, Utah
26: West Virginia
27: Maryland
28: Washington, D.C.
29: Florida
November
3: Oklahoma
Can't wait to cast mine |
COME THROUGH HILLARY
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