[@michael]

Originally posted by RatedG²

Wow

He always finds a way to mess up

Mess up? This is his way of getting people to stop talking about the birther stuff.

[RatedG²]

Originally posted by @michael

Mess up? This is his way of getting people to stop talking about the birther stuff.

By joking about your political opponent being shot and physically harmed? I mean I guess . He is smart, this will definitely take the heat off of him for his birtherism propoganda

[@michael]

Originally posted by RatedG²

By joking about your political opponent being shot and physically harmed? I mean I guess . He is smart, this will definitely take the heat off of him for his birtherism propoganda

He said the same thing last month about how people should use the 2nd amendment to stop her from winning. It blew over like this will too.

[King Maxx]

But the birtherism mess isn't dying down. It already went viral so...

[LuLuDrops]

Birtherism already got the promo it needed within the communities most angered by it. He couldn't make it go away in the black community even if he wanted to. Black Caucus guaranteed that today.

His comatose outhreach program just had its plug pulled this morning.

[NE.]

Originally posted by King Maxx

He lied to his supporters knowing she doesn't want to abolish the 2nd amendment. And yes he insinuated AGAIN that someone should shoot Hillary. He should've never put that into someone's head. It's dangerous, and if you can't see that, then WOW.

Hypothetically, even if that's what he insinuated, once again, at this stage, it doesn't matter to the American voters.

Hopefully the Clinton camp will not keep focusing on more useless tabloid fodder that nobody will care about in a week when the focus should be on reinvigorating her base and giving people a reason other than "Trump is a bigot, etc." while the gap between the two continues to close.

Hillary's platform is simply too status quo to think it's enough to scare voters into voting for her because of every minor inflammatory comment he says.

[Sirnight]

Originally posted by NE.

Hypothetically, even if that's what he insinuated, once again, at this stage, it doesn't matter to the American voters.

Hopefully the Clinton camp will not keep focusing on more useless tabloid fodder that nobody will care about in a week when the focus should be on reinvigorating her base and giving people a reason other than "Trump is a bigot, etc." while the gap between the two continues to close.

Hillary's platform is simply too status quo to think it's enough to scare voters into voting for her because of every minor inflammatory comment he says.

Most progressive platform for the Democratic party.
"Too status quo"

The problem is with her image, not her propositions.

[King Maxx]

Originally posted by NE.

Hypothetically, even if that's what he insinuated, once again, at this stage, it doesn't matter to the American voters.

Hopefully the Clinton camp will not keep focusing on more useless tabloid fodder that nobody will care about in a week when the focus should be on reinvigorating her base and giving people a reason other than "Trump is a bigot, etc." while the gap between the two continues to close.

Hillary's platform is simply too status quo to think it's enough to scare voters into voting for her because of every minor inflammatory comment he says.

Well he was the one who said it and the media is picking up on it. Hillary's camp has not even said anything about it, and if they did, it'll be a quick little mention.

Again what does her platform has to do with anything we're discussing. You're deflecting because you know you can't defend that mess of a man. He's deplorable.

And let's not talk about status quo when the Republicans are trying to paint her as too liberal for America. STOP.

[Javan]

Originally posted by King Maxx

And let's not talk about status quo when the Republicans are trying to paint her as too liberal for America. STOP.

When?

[NE.]

Originally posted by King Maxx

Well he was the one who said it and the media is picking up on it. Hillary's camp has not even said anything about it, and if they did, it'll be a quick little mention.

Again what does her platform has to do with anything we're discussing. You're deflecting because you know you can't defend that mess of a man. He's deplorable.

And let's not talk about status quo when the Republicans are trying to paint her as too liberal for America. STOP.

I ain't even trying to defend the fact that Trump is a bigot, what I'm saying it, is that nobody is flinching over the "Big Bad Trump" narrative anymore and it's time for Hillary to stop taking it easy and hiding behind that, which is why focusing more on her platform is important.

And Republicans think every Democrat is too liberal for America.

Bernie was the candidate that was "too liberal", Hillary is essentially running for Obama's third term.

[King Maxx]

Originally posted by Javan

When?

When? Since forever. Republicans are trying to paint Hillary and Obama as liberal and just as worse as Bernie and Elizabeth, etc. Liberal =/= Bad Liberal policies are apparently the status quo now. All the nuts on CNN seem to think so too.

And the actual liberals think she's too moderate and establishment. Quite a weird dynamic to be in right now.

[King Maxx]

Originally posted by NE.

I ain't even trying to defend the fact that Trump is a bigot, what I'm saying it, is that nobody is flinching over the "Big Bad Trump" narrative anymore and it's time for Hillary to stop taking it easy and hiding behind that, which is why focusing more on her platform is important.

And Republicans think every Democrat is too liberal for America.

Bernie was the candidate that was "too liberal", Hillary is essentially running for Obama's third term.

I know you don't actually watch her speeches, and just listen to the media, but that's literally what she's been doing.

[Mike91]

How can republicans hate Hillary and call her too liberal when liberals hate Hillary for not being liberal?

Something doesn't add up.

[RatedG²]

Originally posted by Mike91

How can republicans hate Hillary and call her too liberal when liberals hate Hillary for not being liberal?

Something doesn't add up.

I mean if this were 1992 then yes Hillary would be too liberal for republicans but except for her possible Supreme Court judge candidates, many people don't consider her too liberal for America. A few people called her a socialist this year (like Ted Cruz) but that's about it :michae:

[Benzene]

"Status quo" is a buzzphrase that has no meaning, as is the "establishment." Literally means nothing. These kids don't want a revolution. Revolutions ain't hashtagged, they're bloody and violent.

However, Michelle Obama's speech is what Hillary needs more of. Less about Trump and more about her vision.

Also, the birther stuff ain't going away. The media is pissed.

[RatedG²]

Originally posted by Benzene

"Status quo" is a buzzphrase that has no meaning, as is the "establishment." Literally means nothing. These kids don't want a revolution. Revolutions ain't hashtagged, they're bloody and violent.

However, Michelle Obama's speech is what Hillary needs more of. Less about Trump and more about her vision.

Also, the birther stuff ain't going away. The media is pissed.

Agree in all 3 points, but especially the second one. That's why the Obamas (even though she still probably doesn't like them ) will be the ones to actually win her the White House. She honestly would be doomed without them. She's too busy calling Trump a racist instead of convincing people why she's the best choice

And as soon as Trump is up in the polls he seems to sabatoge himself with

-birtherism
-insulting the black pastor
-insinuating/joking/being sarcastic about a possible assassination of a political candidate

If he keeps this up his numbers will look a lot like August come early October

[Benzene]

I'm still not sure what the logic was for Trump bringing the birther stuff up (other than baiting the press to give him free advertising for his new hotel). There was chatter in the media but not THAT much chatter. Perhaps he wanted to get ahead of it before the debate?

[ariesjow]

Bernard is out there trying to gather his most petulant children.

https://twitter.com/AlanKestrel750/s...56539797811200

[Javan]

Originally posted by Benzene

"Status quo" is a buzzphrase that has no meaning, as is the "establishment."

Yeh no. Google is your friend. It's not even complicated

[RatedG²]

But he made a mess out of it. Now it will come up in the debate anyway where he will probably be fact checked in front of millions for lying about the beginning of it, yet again.

So much stuff is happening that this time around the debates will matter for the first time since maybe 1992