[Orpheus]

Originally posted by BlueTimberwolf

The media has really exposed themselves this election in the worse way. That credibility is not going to return so easily.

I dont get the outrage here. If the claim is that he has indeed given "10s of millions" of dollars to charities, shouldn't they have receipts in the ready to support this claim? This is, in my mind, beyond hyperbole since his campaign has repeated this on several occasions.

[BlueTimberwolf]

Originally posted by Orpheus

I dont get the outrage here. If the claim is that he has indeed given "10s of millions" of dollars to charities, shouldn't they have receipts in the ready to support this claim? This is, in my mind, beyond hyperbole since his campaign has repeated this on several occasions.

I mean in general with the cheer-leading and personal animus for either side.

[Beautiful Liar]

Originally posted by BlueTimberwolf

This is not going to work. He flat out condemned them seconds before, that's why major networks are not really running with this story.

I saw a black leader on the news yesterday who was disappointed that Hillary was not discussing real issues, and that most of her campaign is yelling about Putin and Breitbart/Alt-right. I feel like most people who care about that are already behind her at this point.

I actually agree, even in that CNN news clip posted on the page prior it clearly shows Pence implying and saying he wants no association with David Duke yet the CNN headline is "Pence refuses to denounce David Duke" but yet the Hillbots claim the media is more negative bias towards Clinton

Also Clinton claims to be pro Muslim, African Amercian, LGBT, etc but what are her solutions to further expand their rights and protections? She has only mention the LGBT Equality Bill AFTER Bernie acknowledged it, also a few days ago she was at a Barbara Streisand fundraising event whom many people (gays) paid upwards of 50K to attend and she spent the majority of the time bashing Trump with that deplorable statement instead of speaking solutions and policies.

You know what the problem is people are over estimating Clinton to be this minority advocate when truth is her presidency will be far from that (her track record is either nonexistence or horrible with them) but let's not forget that in this election cycle it's "not" cool to agree with Trump.

Being part of the cool trend is really what this election really boils down to it definitely isn't policies and its highly visible among the Young..

[King Maxx]

Originally posted by BlueTimberwolf

And for people okay with the deplorables comment.... I could easily go online right now and find a poll of Muslims where 50% believed something bad. If I then called them deplorables, I'd be called an Islamophobe.

And you'll find black people that hold negative views of whites. Same with Hispanics.

But the difference is that they aren't clinging behind a platform that is in itself a form of bigotry. To vote for someone, because they hold racist views is the difference. There are no Democrat who is voting for Hillary because they think the country is being overrun by lesser beings. Trump supporters actively engage in bigotry and that's what makes them deplorable.

[BlueTimberwolf]

Originally posted by King Maxx

And you'll find black propel that hold negative views of whites. Same with Hispanics.

But the difference is that they aren't clinging behind a platform that is in itself a form of bigotry. To vote for someone, because they hold racist views is the difference. There are no Democrat who are voting that way because they think the country is being overrun by lesser beings. Trump supporters actively engage in bigotry and that's what makes them deplorable.

Who is they? because I could easily find millions of Muslims who support the racist and xenophobic policies of their leaders. Edrogan has super support in Turkey as we speak, and he is awful. Iran, Saudi Arabia, the list goes on.

[Beautiful Liar]

Isn't there a Republican Poll and a Democrat Poll asking if Syrian Muslim Refugess should be allowed in? and on both polls the response was "no" with over 70% and 80% but when a Republican says it he is "Islamphobia"

You know whats so ironic if that same question was put on the ballot for us to vote on that's one issue both Republican and Democriatic voters would agree on and it would pass by breaking record numbers but only one party would be called out for Islamphobia by the media

[BlueTimberwolf]

Originally posted by Beautiful Liar

Isn't there a Republican Poll and a Democrat Poll asking if Syrian Muslim Refugess should be allowed in? and on both polls the response was "no" with over 70% and 80% but when a Republican says it he is "Islamphobia"

You know whats so ironic if that same question was put on the ballot for us to vote on that's one issue both Republican and Democriatic voters would agree on and it would pass by breaking record numbers but only one party would be called out for Islamphobia by the media

33% of Dems also support the Muslim ban.

[King Maxx]

Originally posted by BlueTimberwolf

Who is they? because I could easily find millions of Muslims who support the racist and xenophobic policies of their leaders. Edrogan has super support in Turkey as we speak, and he is awful. Iran, Saudi Arabia, the list goes on.

I'm not talking about Muslims. I'm talking about Democrats and Hillary supporters.

Hillary calling Trump supporters deplorable is perfectly accurate, and I assume your point of pointing out Muslims holding negative views makes her comments any less valid.

[Venus Temple]

Wow, Clinton's college calculator on her website is incredibly nifty. Let me show this to all my High School friends who are on the fence.

It's sad that I have friends who are ACTUALLY on the fence/just aren't going to vote. They truly have been brainwashed by the two decade+ long smear campaign the republicans have been running against Hillary.

[King Maxx]

I've never heard the media call Republicans Islamophobic because they oppose allowing Syrians in.

It is however Islamophobic to say "Muslims are terrorists. Ban them from the country. It's not a religion." And that's for anyone. Rep or Dem or Ind.

[BlueTimberwolf]

Originally posted by King Maxx

I'm not talking about Muslims. I'm talking about Democrats and Hillary supporters.

Hillary calling Trump supporters deplorable is perfectly accurate, and I assume your point of pointing out Muslims holding negative views makes her comments any less valid.

I said before she has the right to feel that way, but I was pointed out double standards people hold to different groups. Your point was that they are also supporting a leader you find deplorable, and I was given an example of the same.

[Beautiful Liar]

Originally posted by BlueTimberwolf

33% of Dems also support the Muslim ban.

That poll was posted on ATRL but it was close for obvious reasons but I'm looking for it now but I think it was a "CNN" poll the most liberal media of them all there is also a 2008 video floating around of Hillary supporting and voting for "a wall" or some type of fencing to be built alongside the Mexican border

Truth is almost everything that relates to Trump relates to Hillary

[BlueTimberwolf]

Originally posted by King Maxx

I've never heard the media call Republicans Islamophobic because they oppose allowing Syrians in.

It is however Islamophobic to say "Muslims are terrorists. Ban them from the country. It's not a religion." And that's for anyone. Rep or Dem or Ind.

That was a frequent occurrence during the refugee debate.

[lightstheyblindme]

Originally posted by BlueTimberwolf

33% of Dems also support the Muslim ban.

mess

[Beautiful Liar]

To be honest tho the Syrian Refugee ordeal isnt the only thing voters of both parties will agree on I personally think if given the chance to vote for it on a ballot, gun control, minimum wage and more affordable healthcare will have bipartisan support among Ameican voters and they will pass easily. I feel the candidates make us seem more divided but when you look at the individual party polling the results aren't that different especially on gun control I seen a poll that 58% of Republicans want more gun control

[Beautiful Liar]

Originally posted by lightstheyblindme

mess

I never understand the whole open door policy thing truth is many countries are sealing their borders I just seen on the news last week that Turkey has finally started to strengthen their borders and what's so ironic is the US has send them "aid" to assist them with that but when a certain Presidential candidate proposes the same aid towards the Mexican border he is called out for bigotry

[King Maxx]

Dems don't mind a strong border and fencing. BUT we don't like Trump because it's the meaning behind the wall that's the problem. To be honest, if he actually cared about security the wall would be fine. But instead he chose to appeal to bigots and make the wall about racist sentiments and "Blame the Mexicans for your poverty" route.

Also the US doesn't have an open border policy. Stop that lie. There are three terms: Open border, controlled border, and closed border. We are the 2nd but Trump supporters want the 3rd. Never gonna happen.

[Beautiful Liar]

Originally posted by Cupid

The things Trump supporters will lie to themselves about to make them feel better about voting him.

She herself said she voted while in the Senate for a wall or for some type of barrier to keep illegals out, are ya not fact checking Hillary? This was what she thought wasn't a televise event so she told a supporter that but when Trump proposes the same idea ya get upset, it literally makes no sense and this isn't the only thing they are "relatable" in

http://youtu.be/Jsze8muJpvE

[Beautiful Liar]

Originally posted by King Maxx

Dems don't mind a strong border and fencing. BUT we don't like Trump because it's the meaning behind the wall that's the problem. To be honest, if he actually cared about security the wall would be fine. But instead he chose to appeal to bigots and make the wall about racist sentiments and "Blame the Mexicans for your poverty" route.

Also the US doesn't have an open border policy. Stop that lie. There are three terms: Open border, controlled border, and closed border. We are the 2nd but Trump supporters want the 3rd. Never gonna happen.

And in this clip Hillary herself said that Mexico is migrating their problems north and this isn't no different than Trump saying Mexico is bringing in crimes and drugs. The difference between Trump and Clinton is the tone. I just never understand why her supporters are anti wall when clearly Hillary wasn't and probably today she still isn't. I wish ya would be more fair in all honesty

http://youtu.be/Ezaw-g6TIQI

[Orpheus]

Clinton’s new push in toss-up states includes Tim Kaine's first Spanish-language ad

Two new Spanish-language ads are being released by the Hillary Clinton campaign Tuesday in an effort to appeal to Latino voters in the crucial swing states of Florida, Ohio and Nevada...

One of them, a radio ad called "Invitación," or "Invitation," is also the first Spanish-language spot for Clinton’s running mate, Tim Kaine.

"Raise your voice and vote," says Kaine, who speaks Spanish fluently after his time as a Jesuit volunteer in Honduras as a young man, a life-changing experience he highlights in the spot: "I learned the importance of the values of faith, family and working hard," he says.

Meanwhile, in her new TV ad "Dependen de Nosotros" or "They Depend on Us," Clinton touts her plan to help families with the costs of child care and college tuition, as well as by achieving equal pay for women.

FULL: http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/pol...first-spanish/