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Discussion: Is Selena bigger than Ari in 2016?
Member Since: 5/27/2016
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Selena may be the bigger celebrity yes, but Ariana is more successful as a singer.
Selena Gomez is the epitome of being a pretty face. I understand she doesn't have the best vocals but that didn't stop Britney. At least Brit made up for in her intrinsic routines and jawdropping performances. I'm so bored of these new breed of pop stars doing the minimum and delivering half assed performances. Do some ****ing choreography.
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Originally posted by ThugginGrande
Dangerous Woman is a minor top ten hit when it's almost platinum in pure sales and has 220 million global Spotify streams? Interesting.
Also, you would think that with all these SMASHES!1!1 Selena's album would be able to do better than Ariana's "flop" album Dangerous Woman, but Dangerous Woman is coming to outsell Revival globally in two to three weeks and outstream it in a few months.
Ariana sold more records than Selena in 2015 and was higher on the Billboard Year-End Artists list. Mark my words, she'll have sold more records and be higher on the Billboard Year-End Artists list for this year too. In fact, right now, Ariana is #7 on the Global Digital Artist Ranking while Selena is #22.
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Originally posted by Roman Holiday
Geez, I'd hope so considering they were released months in advance. Doesn't change the fact that DW already has more than half of Revival's SPS despite the latter being released six months prior.
Who is Selena taken seriously by exactly? Not the same legends that have acknowledged Ariana for having actual talent. The world mainly sees her as the Gretchen Weiner's to Taylor Swift and doesn't think very highly of her after her BLM tweets or her cringeworthy "insta feuds" with her more relevant ex.
The "two hits" per era thing is highly debatable, but I'll let you rock. And Side to side is on track to go Top 10, so she'll have two !op 10 hits this era and Into You which has been Top 15 for five consecutive weeks. Not bad for a flop era.
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Originally posted by ThugginGrande
You're comparing 2014 and 2015 singles to a 2016 single? Do you not realize how bad sales have declined? Dangerous Woman has sold 1.8 million WW so far, which is the same as Hands To Myself, a 2016 single, if I'm not wrong.
If Selena was bigger globally than Ariana, then why did Dangerous Woman go #1 in more countries than Revival album went top five in? Why is Dangerous Woman coming to outsell Revival in two to three weeks? Why does Dangerous Woman have 700+ million streams on Spotify when Revival only had 600 million in the same time frame despite its MULTIPLE, GLOBAL SMASHES!1!1
And Side To Side is coming to outpeak Selena's discography, bookmark me. It's already going top 15 next week despite not even being sent for pop/rhythmic radio adds yet. Into You is spending its fifth week in the top 15 and it has 216 million Spotify streams and is still in the top 20 on Global Spotify. So much for one hit per era.
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Originally posted by Eternium
The Dangerous Woman era is still going and will eclipse Revival by December and keep going after it gets a fourth and fifth single. Ariana is just a bigger musician than Selena.
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Originally posted by LoKoPaNdA
I mean, Problem already did lol. Selena is yet to achieve a top 3 single.
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Originally posted by ThugginGrande
Also, I'm crying at "Selena is taken seriously by the industry/artists unlike Ariana". Is that why Ariana got two Grammy noms after less than two years in the industry while Selena has zero Grammy noms after seven years? Ariana has been praised by Celine Dion. Xtina praised her and did a live duet with her. Patti Labelle did a live duet with her and praised her vocal ability. Britney said Ariana inspires her. Stevie Wonder was wowed by her tribute to him and now he's releasing a collab with her. Aretha Franklin said she wants to do a duet with Ariana. Madonna brought Ariana on stage on her tour. But congrats to Selena for being Taylor's lapdog!
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I don't have to give out anymore receipt because these are already true and the truths always hurt Selena and her petty stans who always stay in denial. 
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What three "smashes" are you talking about Art? 
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by TheFireLexus
Selena is really a nobody. A popular one, sure, but nobody with a brain takes her seriously.
It's not a diss, just a fact - she's useless musically - can't sing, dance, write, produce. Can't whisper on key or even steal songwriting credits properly.
What is there to take seriously?
Even outside of her "music," she's largely seen as either:
1) A clueless idiot - as evidenced by the response to her statements on Black Lives Matter
2) Justin Bieber's thirsty ex - which she herself proved with her childish antics on Instagram.
3) A rehab-prone coke-head - as seen in the response to stories about her lupus.
Let this be the LAST time you EVEN ATTEMPT to put down a Woman of Colour (Ariana Grande-Butera) comparing her to selena gomez.
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LMAO, imagine being this pressed 
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Originally posted by Daniel767
Too far man!!
Sorry I'm posting twice but idk how to quote 2 people at a time ....
I agree with her not being able to really sing .. DEFF can't dance .. write idk .. but you're comments are way too far and extremely hostile. Don't comment on her disease when you don't even know whats really going on.
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There's a tiny icon next to "Reply with Quote" button!
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Originally posted by Daniel767
Too far man!!
Sorry I'm posting twice but idk how to quote 2 people at a time ....
I agree with her not being able to really sing .. DEFF can't dance .. write idk .. but you're comments are way too far and extremely hostile. Don't comment on her disease when you don't even know whats really going on.
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They are all observations. None of which I made up on my own.  And I'm not commenting on her disease. I'm pointing out the fact that people respond to her talk of lupus by saying she's lying to cover up the fact she does coke, which proves that people don't take her seriously.
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Member Since: 6/19/2012
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Originally posted by Jonathan
What three "smashes" are you talking about Art? |
Same Old Love
Hands to Myself
We Don't Talk Anymore
The former two peaked higher than any Ari single this era 
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Member Since: 12/30/2011
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Selena's time of being a big musical artist is probably over. She won't be able to do major tours anymore so she will be considered pretty much useless to labels.
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Originally posted by Artemisia
Same Old Love
Hands to Myself
We Don't Talk Anymore
The former two peaked higher than any Ari single this era |
False, Focus is still counted as a single from DW and it peaked at #7 as HTM and obviously Focus outviewed every ****ing single video of SelenaGomezVEVO. 
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Selena stans stay circle jerking each other, but they still haven't answered my question. If Selena is bigger than ever, and Ariana has declined SO MUCH, then why is Dangerous Woman on track to outsell Revival in two to three weeks and outstream it in a few months? Let's not even get into the fact that Selena will NEVER have an era as big as My Everything.
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Originally posted by Artemisia
Same Old Love
Hands to Myself
We Don't Talk Anymore
The former two peaked higher than any Ari single this era |
Except Same Old Love is the only one that has outsold Dangerous Woman, and it's a 2015 single.
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Originally posted by golden-girl
you seem really upset |
They've been reading too many blind gossips & ExposingSMG fanfics 
The "it" girl of 2014 who sold "30 million records in one era" & promoted at every award show, talk show & festival known to man kind with a top 2 smash that outpeaked & sold more than Selena's whole discography and many more smashes that are bigger than any of Selena's singles can't even push 700k album sales domestically
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Originally posted by ThugginGrande
Selena stans stay circle jerking each other, but they still haven't answered my question. If Selena is bigger than ever, and Ariana has declined SO MUCH, then why is Dangerous Woman on track to outsell Revival in two to three weeks and outstream it in a few months? Let's not even get into the fact that Selena will NEVER have an era as big as My Everything.
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 Clock the **** out of those denying ass-es.
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Member Since: 8/17/2013
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Originally posted by Artemisia
Same Old Love
Hands to Myself
We Don't Talk Anymore
The former two peaked higher than any Ari single this era |
HTM and WTDA only spent 1 week in the top 10 each, not seeing how that fact would make them a smash and DW a minor but.
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Member Since: 9/8/2012
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No. Those Selena "smashes" were only smashes in the US, the most global one is the Charlie track lol
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Focus outpeaked every single of Selena in the UK except C&GI too.
A flop single but just outdid a lot of Selena's "achivements" I'm laughing at Selena stans' endless efforts.
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Originally posted by StarsAllAligned
They've been reading too many blind gossips & ExposingSMG fanfics
The "it" girl of 2014 who sold "30 million records in one era" & promoted at every award show, talk show & festival known to man kind with a top 2 smash that outpeaked & sold more than Selena's whole discography and many more smashes that are bigger than any of Selena's singles can't even push 700k album sales domestically |
My Everything is at 700k domestically by now (it was at 692k in March), which is barely lower than Revival's and Stars Dance's domestic sales combined.
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Member Since: 12/22/2010
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Originally posted by ThugginGrande
Selena stans stay circle jerking each other, but they still haven't answered my question. If Selena is bigger than ever, and Ariana has declined SO MUCH, then why is Dangerous Woman on track to outsell Revival in two to three weeks and outstream it in a few months? Let's not even get into the fact that Selena will NEVER have an era as big as My Everything.
Except Same Old Love is the only one that has outsold Dangerous Woman, and it's a 2015 single.
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Your own fault for expecting anything resembling logic from people who seriously stan for selena gomez. 
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Member Since: 5/27/2016
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Originally posted by TheFireLexus
Selena is really a nobody. A popular one, sure, but nobody with a brain takes her seriously.
It's not a diss, just a fact - she's useless musically - can't sing, dance, write, produce. Can't whisper on key or even steal songwriting credits properly.
What is there to take seriously?
Even outside of her "music," she's largely seen as either:
1) A clueless idiot - as evidenced by the response to her statements on Black Lives Matter
2) Justin Bieber's thirsty ex - which she herself proved with her childish antics on Instagram.
3) A rehab-prone coke-head - as seen in the response to stories about her lupus.
Let this be the LAST time you EVEN ATTEMPT to put down a Woman of Colour (Ariana Grande-Butera) comparing her to selena gomez.
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She's white though
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Member Since: 12/22/2010
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Originally posted by StarsAllAligned
They've been reading too many blind gossips & ExposingSMG fanfics
The "it" girl of 2014 who sold "30 million records in one era" & promoted at every award show, talk show & festival known to man kind with a top 2 smash that outpeaked & sold more than Selena's whole discography and many more smashes that are bigger than any of Selena's singles can't even push 700k album sales domestically |
How much has Revival sold? Or Stars Dance? Never change, "selenators"
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Member Since: 12/22/2010
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Originally posted by ABeyBraith
She's white though |
Ariana Grande is a black woman.
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