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Chart Listings: Billboard Hot 100 Singles (March 17-24, 2010)
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Maybe they really only count views from the very beginning till the end? The number of people who really "watch" videos in full must be very low, if that's true, it explains why songs never get many points from streaming...
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..Streamings are counted weekly, which means, Let's say Telephone has 200,000 views, but it only gained 55,000 in the last week. Then it won't have 4 points, but one. I think that's was pretty obvious from the start right 
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bad romance video would have had 90 points only cuz of the streaming
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Originally posted by RudeBoy
..Streamings are counted weekly, which means, Let's say Telephone has 200,000 views, but it only gained 55,000 in the last week. Then it won't have 4 points, but one. I think that's was pretty obvious from the start right |
I understand this
Telephone could easily get a couple of millions views last week.
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Originally posted by RudeBoy
..Streamings are counted weekly, which means, Let's say Telephone has 200,000 views, but it only gained 55,000 in the last week. Then it won't have 4 points, but one. I think that's was pretty obvious from the start right |
What are you talking about?
We know that...we're wondering why streaming is so low on Y! and Aol, plus we don't even know the total views of Telephone on those channels. But I seriously doubt it will only get just one point from streaming.
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I think he's saying that Telephone could have got the majority of it's views in the immediate days after the premiere, which counted for last weeks charts.
Although I don't think that's the case as it's 3 days vs 7 and GaGa tweeted it the other day.
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Is that really a question? Youtube is the most popular video sharing website in the world, it gets averagely 60 million views everyday! Nobody ever goes to Yahoo or AOL..
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Nobody ever goes to Yahoo or AOL..
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These are the only sites used by Billboard for streaming, so obviously they get views.  And Lady Gaga posted the links on her Twitter (3,000,000 followers) and Facebook (6,000,000 fans) last week.
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^ Not really. They could've just paid Billboard money to make them their official streaming counters -> increase the popularity of AOL and Yahoo (Which, obviously, didn't happen.)
What you are describing is a special case, if Gaga twitted them doesn't mean the site itself is popular, but it kinda seems like a desperate move which I highly doubt was intended from Gagaa. Probably her Management or Label.
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Originally posted by Kirill
These are the only sites used by Billboard for streaming, so obviously they get views. And Lady Gaga posted the links on her Twitter (3,000,000 followers) and Facebook (6,000,000 fans) last week. |
well i think the video could have a lot o views
as i said people under18 can't watch the video on youtube and most of her fans are under 18
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Originally posted by RudeBoy
^ Not really. They could've just paid Billboard money to make them their official streaming counters -> increase the popularity of AOL and Yahoo (Which, obviously, didn't happen.)
What you are describing is a special case, if Gaga twitted them doesn't mean the site itself is popular, but it kinda seems like a desperate move which I highly doubt was intended from Gagaa. Probably her Management or Label.
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of course
her manager wanted her to tweet the itunes link
but youtube has blocked the video
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Originally posted by RudeBoy
^ Not really. They could've just paid Billboard money to make them their official streaming counters -> increase the popularity of AOL and Yahoo (Which, obviously, didn't happen.)
What you are describing is a special case, if Gaga twitted them doesn't mean the site itself is popular, but it kinda seems like a desperate move which I highly doubt was intended from Gagaa. Probably her Management or Label.
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The sites are popular:
Of course, the graph shows the popularity of the whole sites, not just the Music parts, but still.
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Originally posted by RudeBoy
Is that really a question? Youtube is the most popular video sharing website in the world, it gets averagely 60 million views everyday! Nobody ever goes to Yahoo or AOL..
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Talking about the mechanism of counting the views. Unique or not (they aren't on YouTube or in audience impressions for radio) whether it's a page view, watching half of it, watching to the very end, etc.
The Aol music + video site gets 1 million visits per week, Y! music gets 3 million visits per week, and that's 4 million between the two...which DOES make you wonder why the streaming points are low.
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Originally posted by £100
The Aol music + video site gets 1 million visits per week, Y! music gets 3 million visits per week, and that's 4 million between the two...which DOES make you wonder why the streaming points are low.
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Really? Never thought it's that low. 
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Really? Never thought it's that low. |
Rough estimate from demographic statistics, so it's around that number. But out of those 4 million views...it seems that a song never gets more than 1 point from streaming. I'd expect the average to be more around 10 points. 4 million divided by 55,000 is 72 points, and I realise that not all 4 million visitors are looking at the same video, but I'd expect a quarter or them to be, which should add up to 18 points or something around there. Doesn't happen.
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Yesterday, AOL was visited by 2% of the total internet users.
Yahoo was 26%, and Youtube was 25%.
Yahoo is fairly popular, but not all of these visitors go to the Music / Video section as the site being already huge.
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Originally posted by RudeBoy
Yesterday, AOL was visited by 2% of the total internet users.
Yahoo was 26%, and Youtube was 25%.
Yahoo is fairly popular, but not all of these visitors go to the Music / Video section as the site being already huge.
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you have to understand that we gaga fans are obsessed with the streaming because bad romance failed to be #1 because the streaming sites didn't add the song
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^ Why didn't they add it?
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Originally posted by £100
Rough estimate from demographic statistics, so it's around that number. But out of those 4 million views...it seems that a song never gets more than 1 point from streaming. I'd expect the average to be more around 10 points. 4 million divided by 55,000 is 72 points, and I realise that not all 4 million visitors are looking at the same video, but I'd expect a quarter or them to be, which should add up to 18 points or something around there. Doesn't happen. |
72 * 0.05 = 3.6 .. so it might get no more than 5 pts in the end, however, 5 pts was roughly enough to block bad romance from no.1 spot..
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Originally posted by licq
72 * 0.05 = 3.6 .. so it might get no more than 5 pts in the end, however, 5 pts was roughly enough to block bad romance from no.1 spot..
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1 point = 55,000 streams = 1k sales = 1 million AI
You don't multiply it by .05 
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