[Swim]

This is tough. Both of these are discography highlights.

[eli's_rhythm]

Originally posted by wanderlust

i sometimes wonder if half of you have even seen or listened to the videos and music of the albums this poll is about. i wonder what people will do next to deny madonna's legacy. it's really getting a little insane lately. this woman is the most disrespected, underrated, and uncredited female artist by ignorant youth of today.

You can't come whining about erasing Madonna's legacy when this thread was perfectly peaceful before post #17 on page 1.

[C.Damen]

Originally posted by Misanthrope

They're not about different topics entirely. Sure, Lemonade is an album about her relationship with Jay-Z. But part of Lemonade's narrative is social change and thats part of Beyonce narrative in general. As was Lady Gagas Born This Way album. The themes in Born This Ways video werent so different from Rhythm Nation. Creating a new race free from prejudice? Do your homework man.

And I never even said Rhythm Nation influenced Alejandro.....you chose to bring up Lady Gaga. And while on the topic, like I stated, Rhythm Nation can be seen as an influence on the social themes and aspirations of Born This Way as well as the social issues brought up within Alejandros music video (although I really wouldnt have brought it up had you not yourself).

You are right but I fail to see any correlation that Lemonade has with Rhythm Nation. It's like comparing apples and oranges. It just doesn't mix. You might as well say any song or album that talks about social issues can be tied to Rhythm Nation and even you know that's a stretch.

Rhythm Nation can be seen as an influence on Born This Way by who?

[eli's_rhythm]

Originally posted by C.Damen

Formation on Super Bowl has NOTHING to do with Rhythm Nation whatsoever. Any comparisons you can make can be made toward Michael Jackson since her outfit is obviously an homage to Michael NOT Janet.

I see NO similarities at all between Rhythm Nation and I Can Transform Ya.

Gwen and Fergie's spelling out words in songs have NOTHING to do with Miss You Much.

Where are you getting this from? Are you just making delusional assumptions?

You're just being difficult and I see no purpose to this discussion. Both RN and LAP are great and influential albums. Goodbye.

[Swim]

Originally posted by C.Damen

Sorry but Til Death Do Us Part, Dear Jessie, and Oh Father are some of Madonna's worst songs ever.

Sis

[Misanthrope]

Originally posted by wanderlust

youve got to be kidding me. the rewriting of history people are trying lately is too much. ive seen it for years now. madonna could make ten different albums the level of ray of light or like a prayer and people would still debunk it. you're gonna tell me now that the alejandro video isn't inspired by madonna's work? you're gonna tell me that BTW doesnt sound like EY (even though she and her people both admitted to it), you're gonna tell me her camp didnt announce her as a second madonna when she first started and tried to advertise that message to the world? youre telling me gaga's tours arent inspired by madonnas, but rather by janet? (and dont try to give me ONE video that may have a similar moment to janet, when you know overall it's madonna who inspired her live act.) youre gonna tell me she didnt put madonna's name on "the fame"? and still today gets compared to madonna? youre gonna tell me judas wasnt about trying to annoy the pope and catholic church?

a lot of people are inspired by MJ. janet is the one who was inspired by him too. they both did a lot of the same things

i sometimes wonder if half of you have even seen or listened to the videos and music of the albums this poll is about. i wonder what people will do next to deny madonna's legacy. it's really getting a little insane lately. this woman is the most disrespected, underrated, and uncredited female artist by ignorant youth of today.

calm down you f*cking psycho.
born this way relates to rhythmn nations for reasons ive stated in posts above this one. take madge's co*k out of your throat for a minute since you're clearly not getting enough oxygen to your brain and then read through my explanation. this whole "madonna erasure" thing you're on about is the biggest crock of sh*t considering she is hands down the most overcredited female in pop music history. never once have i denied her influence on lady gaga nor was that what my post was even about. rhythm nations themes of social change influences born this way heavily in terms of it also being an album with aspirations of spreading social messages and change. the album. furthermore, the video is reminiscent of rhythm nation the single not just for its black and white colorscape but in terms of its storyline in which she creates a new race free from prejudice, which is what rhythm nation is about as well. like god....take a xanax. get a life.

[Grown K]

Love Will Never Do (Without You) is a masterpiece.

[wanderlust]

Originally posted by Misanthrope

As if anything you spew from your keyboard to the readers of ATRL has any semblance of sanity let alone objectivity.

Rhythm Nations influence on popular culture and Janet Jacksons influence on not only black women but women in music in general is an inarguable fact. You can choose to blind yourself from the sting of Madonnas c*um in your eyes if you so choose, im no one to judge others kinks, but that doesn't negate the amount of influence Janet has had on the industry.

I'm not objective?

so madonna didnt inspire gaga at all next you'll mention mariah and whitney as her main inspirations thanks for your new take on pop culture, lmao

[maurixrosup]

the passive-agression in here

[Misanthrope]

Originally posted by C.Damen

You are right but I fail to see any correlation that Lemonade has with Rhythm Nation. It's like comparing apples and oranges. It just doesn't mix. You might as well say any song or album that talks about social issues can be tied to Rhythm Nation and even you know that's a stretch.

Rhythm Nation can be seen as an influence on Born This Way by who?

You only fail to see it because you have Madonnas c*ck shoved so far down your throat that you can't even breathe dude. What is the storyline of Janets Rhythm Nation video dude? Take your faves advice and look. it. up.. its directly related to the storyline within gagas born this way video in which she creates a race with no prejudice. like its not that hard to comprehend if you actually know what youre talking about c. damen. but youre too concerned with crediting madonna to everything, that you're failing to see exactly where her influences are apparent. not EVERY song or video or album that alludes to social change correlates to having been influenced by rhythm nation, that is correct. but considering the fact that Janet is one of Beys main influences not to mention the way in which beyonce brings her social messages forth so boldly and with intense choreography....i cant even continue this dude. you guys are so dumb and im too heated. i shouldnt even bother because youre not about whats true. you're about madonna. thats it.

[Misanthrope]

Originally posted by wanderlust

I'm not objective?

so madonna didnt inspire gaga at all next you'll mention mariah and whitney as her main inspirations thanks for your new take on pop culture, lmao

please copy and paste where i stated that madonna did not inspire lady gaga at all.
jesus christ you're insane. you and swag need to be sent off to group therapy. for real.

[C.Damen]

Originally posted by Misanthrope

You only fail to see it because you have Madonnas c*ck shoved so far down your throat that you can't even breathe dude. What is the storyline of Janets Rhythm Nation video dude? Take your faves advice and look. it. up.. its directly related to the storyline within gagas born this way video in which she creates a race with no prejudice. like its not that hard to comprehend if you actually know what youre talking about c. damen. but youre too concerned with crediting madonna to everything, that you're failing to see exactly where her influences are apparent. not EVERY song or video or album that alludes to social change correlates to having been influenced by rhythm nation, that is correct. but considering the fact that Janet is one of Beys main influences not to mention the way in which beyonce brings her social messages forth so boldly and with intense choreography....i cant even continue this dude. you guys are so dumb and im too heated. i shouldnt even bother because youre not about whats true. you're about madonna. thats it.

[Swim]

Originally posted by Misanthrope

You only fail to see it because you have Madonnas c*ck shoved so far down your throat that you can't even breathe dude. What is the storyline of Janets Rhythm Nation video dude? Take your faves advice and look. it. up.. its directly related to the storyline within gagas born this way video in which she creates a race with no prejudice. like its not that hard to comprehend if you actually know what youre talking about c. damen. but youre too concerned with crediting madonna to everything, that you're failing to see exactly where her influences are apparent. not EVERY song or video or album that alludes to social change correlates to having been influenced by rhythm nation, that is correct. but considering the fact that Janet is one of Beys main influences not to mention the way in which beyonce brings her social messages forth so boldly and with intense choreography....i cant even continue this dude. you guys are so dumb and im too heated. i shouldnt even bother because youre not about whats true. you're about madonna. thats it.

It's really not that serious. Relax.

[Misanthrope]

Originally posted by Swim

It's really not that serious. Relax.

Are you kidding me? You're telling me to relax as if they aren't writing essay length responses of deluded passive aggression? Madonna stans I swear to ****ing god dude. Im getting this thread closed. Cant take you idiots anymore.

This is exactly why I like to get myself banned off this **** because it forces me to be absent from having this exact deluded conversation.

[wanderlust]

Originally posted by Misanthrope

please copy and paste where i stated that madonna did not inspire lady gaga at all.
jesus christ you're insane. you and swag need to be sent off to group therapy. for real.

well anyone who disagrees with you should be in therapy and is an idiot, right? you also suggest that janet is the only artist to have talked about social issues when that's really far from the truth and only shows how ignorant you are about pop culture and music altogether. everyone from diana ross to marvin, bowie, michael jackson and certainly madonna have talked about very serious problems happening in society. you're so ****ing literal it's insane. what you are doing is completely deny the fact that a lot of a certain popstar's career is inspired by madonna. it's always cool to go for the underdog and no one here is denying that janet has inspired a lot of people, but that's no reason to deny that of madonnas. you can be complimentary of both and theres no need to invent things and yes, attempt to change history in here.

[C.Damen]

Originally posted by Misanthrope

Are you kidding me? You're telling me to relax as if they aren't writing essay length responses of deluded passive aggression? Madonna stans I swear to ****ing god dude. Im getting this thread closed. Cant take you idiots anymore.

This is exactly why I like to get myself banned off this **** because it forces me to be absent from having this exact deluded conversation.

You ok?

[KTLe]

LAP

[KingKunta]

Originally posted by C.Damen

I'm sorry did you say something?

You're the one that responsed...
https://media.giphy.com/media/FxEwsOF1D79za/200w.gif

God you can't even get your comebacks right let alone your facts.

You know that chick Britney Spears? Product of Janet

You ever heard of Beyonce, Ciara, Aaliyah, Selena Quintanilla, Rihanna, or TLC? Product of Janet

Ever heard any pop song that has a rap verse added into it? Product of Janet

Ever heard any new jack swing song? Product of Janet

Beyonce's Formation? Product of Janet

Military chereography in videos and performances? Product of Janet

Black female artists expressing sexuality/sensuality and while also distributing pro-black behaviors? Product of Janet

Black female artists making political works for a mainstream audience? Product of Janet

Ever seen any singer using a microphome headset? Product of Janet

Black female who's music videos have crossed over to a white mainstream artist? Product of Janet

Female with heavy complex chereography in music videos? Product of Janet

Female with heavy complex chereography on stage? Product of Janet

Most of atrl's faves? Product of Janet

[Swim]

Originally posted by C.Damen

You ok?

We're all idiots, apparently.

[KTLe]

Oh wow the meltdown of the thread starter in here I'm dealing with no trolls today, bye