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Discussion: Do you miss when Bey wasn't as big as she is now?
Member Since: 8/30/2011
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love her more now. Especially after self-titled.
Especially after partition,haunted and Yonce.
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Member Since: 5/27/2016
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Originally posted by swissman
It's like you read 1 hater article and now can only think of those same tired things.
How many times must we tell you that bitches in the song does not refer to women as a whole but HATERS.
Banning the word bossy is in relation to only calling women bossy when they speak up.
And I know I've asked you this before but you had never answered. If a black rapper made a song about haters and referring to them as the n-word, is he racist? Probably not. So Beyoncé is not "mouthing off" and being sexist.
And congrats to anyone's monumental peaks.
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Please, Beyoncé hijacks pseudo issues and places herself in the center of socio-political debates just to boost her press coverage. "Bossy" is not a sexist term. That's a micro-aggression (a non-issue lol). For many, "bitch" (which she uses constantly, every night of her tour in fact!!!) is argably the most misogynistic term in the English language, but of course she has no issue with it. That's hypocritical.
Since y'all wanna talk about Gaga and Rihanna though...
Remember how Beyoncé was all over "Telephone" back in 2009, jumping on two songs with Gaga because she wanted that global hit?
Then started throwing shade and getting cocky about other artists who push for huge hits?
She got slick about Rihanna for no damn reason...
 
And then when Gaga started taking heat from the media, Beyoncé wanted absolutely nothing to do with her.
This is the proof that Beyoncé's "feminism" shtick is just a stunt, she doesn't care about women in the industry.
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Member Since: 11/13/2011
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Anyone who's familiar with Bey ever since she started out in DC KNOWS FOR FACT that she always wanted to retire at the age of 30. We should be thankful that she's still around tbh.
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Member Since: 8/7/2015
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i love her but it seems you can't dislike bey's music anymore without someone judging you 
i liked it when she wasn't at a god-like status in the industry
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Member Since: 9/3/2011
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I miss when she wasn't so damn pretentious and when she used to do cute little video interviews here and there.
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Member Since: 2/2/2014
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Another fake stan opening up a thread for Beyonce to get unnecessarily dragged.
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Member Since: 11/13/2011
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Originally posted by Hazard
Please, Beyoncé hijacks pseudo issues and places herself in the center of socio-political debates just to boost her press coverage. "Bossy" is not a sexist term. That's a micro-aggression (a non-issue lol). For many, "bitch" (which she uses constantly, every night of her tour in fact!!!) is argably the most misogynistic term in the English language, but of course she has no issue with it. That's hypocritical.
Since y'all wanna talk about Gaga and Rihanna though...
Remember how Beyoncé was all over "Telephone" back in 2009, jumping on two songs with Gaga because she wanted that global hit?
Then started throwing shade and getting cocky about other artists who push for huge hits?
She got slick about Rihanna for no damn reason...
And then when Gaga started taking heat from the media, Beyoncé wanted absolutely nothing to do with her.
This is the proof that Beyoncé's "feminism" shtick is just a stunt, she doesn't care about women in the industry. |
What kind of ******** when she wished her happy Bday on her website (which she didn't do for A LOT of different people) + they always speak only good stuff about each other. Don't get offended simply because Bey doesn't really care about RiRi other than her being part of her music business. Everybody who has worked with Bey, who has done interviews with her, who has seen her has only stated positive things about Bey. If she was this awful bitch, people wouldve said so, yet you don't find anybody saying these things about her.
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Member Since: 5/27/2016
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Originally posted by swissman
And did someone say that Madonna didn't act stuck up? The same lady who loathes hydrangeas, who superiorly and haughtily told her interviewer to look up a word and as just two recent examples?
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Yeah but Madonna isn't being sinister and isn't trying for a perfect image, especially one not natural to her. She's real, while Beyoncé conceals her personality and everything she does is about being loved and adored, almost all of her political statements are empty and banal, and that's the issue some people have with her. Every statement she makes is just pandering to social media.
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Member Since: 8/30/2010
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looks like someone is pressed here lol
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Member Since: 3/27/2012
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Originally posted by Hazard
Please, Beyoncé hijacks pseudo issues and places herself in the center of socio-political debates just to boost her press coverage. "Bossy" is not a sexist term. That's a micro-aggression (a non-issue lol). For many, "bitch" (which she uses constantly, every night of her tour in fact!!!) is argably the most misogynistic term in the English language, but of course she has no issue with it. That's hypocritical.
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You clearly don’t understand what they’re talking about bossy for. Let’s examine. When a man is in charge and says what he wants, he’s seen as powerful and strong. When a woman does it, she’s seen as bossy. Whether you agree or not with this doesn’t change that this is the reason why she and others were asking to ban the word bossy. Do you also hold Jennifer Garner, Jane Lynch, Diane von Fürstenberg, Condoleezza Rice, Jimmie Johnson, Sinéad O'Connor, Arne Duncan, Anna Maria Chávez and Victoria Beckham to the same standards because they were all there with Beyoncé.
And the n-word is one of the most racist terms in the English language, and yet a lot of black people have no issue with using it themselves. But that’s besides the point as “bitch” has become (unfortunately) part of the language and has gone beyond its original meaning and is applied to mean as well as women. Did you have a problem with Rihanna using it?
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Originally posted by Hazard
Remember how Beyoncé was all over "Telephone" back in 2009, jumping on two songs with Gaga because she wanted that global hit?
Then started throwing shade and getting cocky about other artists who push for huge hits?
She got slick about Rihanna for no damn reason...
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You’re imagining it was a comment about Rihanna. There were plenty of other people doing quick lil singles at the time other than Rihanna. And the Gaga connection doesn’t really hold up as it’s yet another assumption and Beyoncé has praised Gaga, calling her the most talented popstars out, and thus saying she went just for a hit is a stretch, especially after she came off one of her most successful eras of her career.
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Originally posted by Hazard
And then when Gaga started taking heat from the media, Beyoncé wanted absolutely nothing to do with her.
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Untrue lol.
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Originally posted by Hazard
This is the proof that Beyoncé's "feminism" shtick is just a stunt, she doesn't care about women in the industry.
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Thanks for the attempt but to sum up: Beyoncé is not feminist because she uses the word bitch, because you think her feminism is a shtick that she’s been talking about since the late 1990s, and because she doesn’t care for the women in the industry and yet have signed exclusively female artists to her own label.
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Member Since: 3/27/2012
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It's really easy to just take something and make a big deal of it when you're a hater.
"I read that Beyoncé only has female musicians in her band.
And that is one reason why I think she is anti-feminist.
Why is she making only women do her work? Is she trying to say these are women's jobs?"
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Member Since: 9/12/2012
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This thread changed a lot from the first page to now. 
Anyway, the only thing I really miss would be her pop music. Of course, she is free to do whatever she wants as an artist and it's up to listeners to either take it or leave it. I obviously chose to leave it. What she's doing is working for her, though!
I do also wish she came across more human, and that you were allowed to have an opinion that isn't overwhelming praise about her, but even general media sees her as God status, and that's really off-putting to me. Having flaws makes people more interesting to me. Beyonce's like a real-life Mary Sue.
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Member Since: 5/27/2016
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She is far past her peak... I don't understand this thread lol
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Member Since: 8/6/2015
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I do find it intriguing that people dislike Beyoncé for taking her celebrity back to how it used to be in the early days of celebrities, before social media and paparazzi etc. You never knew anything about celebrity's personal lives, you knew about their work and their art. That's all Beyoncé is doing right now, shutting the media back out and controlling how she wants to show her life.
You only think that's pretentious because she's not all over Instagram and Twitter favouriting shady posts about other people which is apparently "being real" these days. 
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Member Since: 3/27/2012
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Originally posted by MrLovett
I do find it intriguing that people dislike Beyoncé for taking her celebrity back to how it used to be in the early days of celebrities, before social media and paparazzi etc. You never knew anything about celebrity's personal lives, you knew about their work and their art. That's all Beyoncé is doing right now, shutting the media back out and controlling how she wants to show her life.
You only think that's pretentious because she's not all over Instagram and Twitter favouriting shady posts about other people which is apparently "being real" these days. |
I love that. "Taking her celebrity back".
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by MrLovett
I do find it intriguing that people dislike Beyoncé for taking her celebrity back to how it used to be in the early days of celebrities, before social media and paparazzi etc. You never knew anything about celebrity's personal lives, you knew about their work and their art. That's all Beyoncé is doing right now, shutting the media back out and controlling how she wants to show her life.
You only think that's pretentious because she's not all over Instagram and Twitter favouriting shady posts about other people which is apparently "being real" these days. |
Bey has to be a mess and her relationship in peril for her to be considered real. However, when discussing her relationship through music, people call it gimmicky.
Only the hot messes can't relate to Bey. And that is not a bad thing.
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Member Since: 4/6/2011
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Yes. When is the last time she did a live interview not pre-recorded to perfection? She puts out music and goes on tour which is fine but must suck for her stans who want some interaction and cute moments.
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Member Since: 11/13/2011
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Originally posted by Reza
Yes. When is the last time she did a live interview not pre-recorded to perfection? She puts out music and goes on tour which is fine but must suck for her stans who want some interaction and cute moments.
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The are far worse things as stans. U must know, I believe.
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Member Since: 3/15/2013
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No...because 4, ST, and Lemonade are masterpieces....her first three albums aren't.
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Member Since: 8/17/2013
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Finally someone said it.
In my opinion, beyonce and her tactics in the past 3-4 years have done nothing but turned her into a huge internet meme.
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