Obama wants his legacy to continue...Elizabeth Warren is the person to do that. Obama knows all of Hillary's transgressions...so therefore to get the crown she has to meet his demands. It's politics, and he despises Hillary Clinton too.
Trump wants to make a splash...Newt doesn't do that, I think Newt is playing the role of smokescreen in the VP search.
Well that's for the voters to decide. Oklahoma GOV Mary Fallin has her negatives, but Sarah Palin she is not. She is an accomplished politician, knows her stuff...served in the senate, was head of the National Governor's Association, and has never lost an election. Trump likes a winner...
It's different because Obama knows what Hillary actually did, and can hold that over her head. Warren would be Clinton's check and balance for Obama...In effect a way for Obama to keep his eye on Hillary.
Warren has more disagreements with Obama than Clinton does.
I love reading Rihsus's posts about Obama's secret hatred for Hillary and knowledge of her most damning secrets. So cool to have such an insider on the forum.
They don't hate each other now, but their relationship was definitely super strained immediately after the 2008 election and for a good while during her tenure as Secretary of State. She pushed back on him on a lot of issues during her time as Secretary. They are just two headstrong leaders with different approaches to certain things despite not being that far apart politically.
I feel like Warren is a good choice for establishing her credibility. I imagine this will blow over (considering people already have started talking about other, more unfortunate things that have been plaguing our country this week) but his statement on her was damaging. Nowhere near as bad as an indictment and expected but still not good.
Jess was supposed to be sending me highlights of the speech, smdh. She needs to do her job if she's gonna spam me with donation requests every day. Will watch when I'm done with work.
Obama and Hillary do not have a strained relationship. He said it best himself when he said that most democratic debates are hard because there are very few things you disagree on and you usually are debating your friends (Which was Hillary's case in both primary seasons as she was a senator during both Obama and Sanders time in the senate).
Y'all know there was a point in the debates where all they really kept going back to was ONE bill Sanders and Hillary disagreed on
I feel like Warren is a good choice for establishing her credibility. I imagine this will blow over (considering people already have started talking about other, more unfortunate things that have been plaguing our country this week) but his statement on her was damaging. Nowhere near as bad as an indictment and expected but still not good.
This has been such a sad summer for the US.
The thing she needs credibility on is trade. And aside from Sanders, Warren is the only one who could do that as she was one of the first to oppose the TPP and even got into a small public battle with Obama over it. Plus she provides her credibility with progressives.
But this election cycle is so confusing at this point. I don't really think the country knows what it wants at this point, it just knows it wants things to change. I just wish people would realize the problem with the country is gridlock.
I think a clear contrast won't happen until the debates.
You'll have one candidate who wants to pay off your student loan debt, raise the minimum wage, and bring back manufacturing and infrastructure jobs. And then you have the other one who has not once said anything about college, says wages are too high, and only plan for infrastructure is to build a wall.
I think a clear contrast won't happen until the debates.
You'll have one candidate who wants to pay off your student loan debt, raise the minimum wage, and bring back manufacturing and infrastructure jobs. And then you have the other one who has not once said anything about college, says wages are too high, and only plan for infrastructure is to build a wall.
But "HILLARY IS AN EVIL LIAR" is all people are going to see, unfortunately.
Crooked Hillary still hasn't given me my free bumper sticker. Sad!
i've gotten 2 (lol) and i got something in the mail today from her hoping it'd be a 3rd one because why not and it ended up being a post card with her face on it
Idk who's more annoying at this point. Sanders stans insisting he run and win (lol) as a third party or insisting their vote for Stein will do something or Trump's hillbillies. It could be the Bernie-bots as of now for trying to question Warren's credibility on taking on Wall Street over an endorsement
Obama and Hillary do not have a strained relationship. He said it best himself when he said that most democratic debates are hard because there are very few things you disagree on and you usually are debating your friends (Which was Hillary's case in both primary seasons as she was a senator during both Obama and Sanders time in the senate).
Y'all know there was a point in the debates where all they really kept going back to was ONE bill Sanders and Hillary disagreed on
They have a good relationship now, but it was definitely strained after the 2008 election and into her time as Secretary. Check out this interview for more insight.
LANDLER: It was June of 2009 and the president was headed to Cairo, as you say, to give what his aides believed was going to be a landmark speech to the Islamic world, a speech that in some ways would reset the relationship after all of the turmoil of the Iraq War and the Bush years.
And there was a great deal of debate in the weeks leading up to this speech about whether the president should also go to Israel and reach out to the new Israeli government that Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu had just put together at that time.
In the end, the White House decided that he shouldn't because they felt that if he did go to Israel, it would give the trip more of a classic shuttle diplomacy feeling, where he would visit with our allies in Cairo and then go visit with our allies in Jerusalem. And they wanted really to make this trip somewhat different.
So the president decided he would travel to Cairo and would not make a stop in Israel. Some of his senior aides, including Rahm Emanuel, now the mayor of Chicago but then the White House chief of staff, worried that if nobody at a senior level went to Israel in President Obama's place, it would send a bad signal to a close American ally.
So he asked Hillary Clinton whether she would go, whether she could in effect after the speech head over to Jerusalem and check in with the new Israeli government. And she said no. She wasn't willing to do it. And this was taken as a sign by some in President Obama's inner circle that in these early days of the administration, she was still thinking more as a principal, as her own political figure, than as a member of the President's staff.
And so it left some ill will and some lingering resentment. A lot of that was overcome fairly quickly, but it was an early moment for both the Hillary Clinton camp and the Obama camp where their interests didn't yet seem to be fully aligned.
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LANDLER: It was. In fact, as you say, the primary battle left some really lasting scars, almost a form of post-traumatic stress disorder for both sides. And those scars were - took longer to heal for the staff than they did for the principles.
Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton actually did manage to put the past behind them fairly quickly. I mean, that's owed largely to Hillary Clinton's ability to just get on with it. But on the staffs - on the part of the staffs - there were more - there was more time. It took more time to mend these scars, and it showed up in all sorts of ways.
In the early days, it showed up in battles between the State Department and the White House over staffing issues. Secretary Clinton came into her job having extracted a promise from the president that she could bring in a great number of her own people, far, far more than any cabinet secretary typically is allowed to bring in.
But when it came time to fill specific positions, there were lots of battles between the White House and the State Department. And some involved people that the White House was suspicious of, notably Sidney Blumenthal, a longtime Clinton family retainer, a former journalist who'd worked in the Bill Clinton White House. She wanted to give him a job in the State Department.
The White House said, no, they vetoed it. They were bitter at him because they blamed him for having spread dirt about Barack Obama during the 2008 election. So that's one example of the kind of staff-level tensions that percolated for at least the first couple of years.
