[*-ChriZ-*]

Originally posted by Ressti

All the more reason to disown the Targaryen bastard born out of rape that killed her?

Idk. I don't buy it. But I could be wrong. I just feel like... if there's a bunch of Targaryen bastards running around... why is Jon's parentage made to be so special by GRRM?

Because of dragon blood. I explained it earlier.
Viserys was Daeny's brother, but he didn't have dragon blood, hence he died to the fluid, hot gold. That's why she said "You were no dragon".
Jon is probably of dragon blood, that's why he's so special and that's also why his mother died. Similar to Tyrion (I guess). Not every Half-Targ has is of dragon blood. It's obv something special and needs a sacrifice (the death of the mother presumably).

[HazelHyphen]

I'm so stupid honestly. I'm hoping that Margaery would survive the Sept explosion and be revealed as a hidden Targaryen never in a million years, but there's always hope. I just don't want her dead

[HazelHyphen]

Originally posted by Ressti

All the more reason to disown the Targaryen bastard born out of rape that killed her?

Idk. I don't buy it. But I could be wrong. I just feel like... if there's a bunch of Targaryen bastards running around... why is Jon's parentage made to be so special by GRRM?

Because Jon is a dragon and a direwolf? Not all Targaryens are dragons as Dany pointed out about Viserys.

[ShouldersSideways]

Originally posted by Ressti

All the more reason to disown the Targaryen bastard born out of rape that killed her?

Idk. I don't buy it. But I could be wrong. I just feel like... if there's a bunch of Targaryen bastards running around... why is Jon's parentage made to be so special by GRRM?

In the books it's alluded that Joanna lost her virginity to Aerys when he was just a prince. But someone points out that Tywin Lannister was too proud a man to have anyone's leftovers.

So I don't think he would readily admit that his wife was taken by another man when the image of his house means more to him than anything in the world. He would rather begrudgingly raise the kid than be stained by controversy.

Another reason I think it's possible is why would Tywin and Joanna produce two 'perfect' children like Jaime and Cersei and then suddenly, in this fictional world where everything GRRM does has a purpose, have a dwarf? The centuries of Targaryen inbreeding would cause a genetic anomaly like that, I think.

Also, this would be the inverse of Aegon the Conqueror and his sisters. It'll be Daenerys the Conqueror and her brothers. (of course popular theory is jon is rhaeger's son but i'm not unconvinced that rhaegar took lyanna to dorne to save her from his father after he raped her)

[*-ChriZ-*]

Originally posted by HazelHyphen

I'm so stupid honestly. I'm hoping that Margaery would survive the Sept explosion and be revealed as a hidden Targaryen never in a million years, but there's always hope. I just don't want her dead

Just remember: Valar morghulis.

[Eóghan Scherzy]

I don't think they really thought things through with Loras.
"Your punishment for being gay is to never be able to marry and father children, and to spend the rest of your life in the company of fit, healthy, sexually frustrated young men"

That's any ATRL member's dream.

[Austin]

I did love Margaery so much but she had to die for the story to progress. At least she went out being smart AF, and got that moment of 'I told you so' before it went ahead.

And anyway, she will be avenged.

[fridayteenage]

Originally posted by ShouldersSideways

no one knows why Tywin suddenly resigned as Hand of the King and took all of the Lannisters back to Casterly Rock. By all accounts it was abrupt and out of nowhere.

The Mad King rejected Tywin's proposal to marry his daughter Cersei to Prince Rhaegar and made his son Jaime a member of the Kingsguard. As members of the Kingsguard are forbidden to marry, Aerys had effectively robbed Tywin of his heir.

Seems good enough reason to me.
Tywin isn't exactly one to let things go.

[Raster]

No way Cersei makes it to season 8. She's screwed and literally only has Qyburn and the Mountain.

[Eóghan Scherzy]

Originally posted by Ressti

nnnnnnnnnnn

Yeah, no.

They annointed Jon in the same episode in which she spoke of marriage. It's obvious that they're gonna get married. Plus Jon now holds the largest area of land after the Tyrell's. She will have to make an alliance with him if she still wants all seven kingdoms.

He was talking about Jaime sis', not Jon.

[zoldyck]

why are some of you saying that Arya will kill Melisandre, the two have interacted only once and Melisendre have done nothing to Arya compared to what other have done to her? Am i missing something?

[i spit on haters]

Originally posted by Eóghan Scherzy

I loved when Margaery completely broke character: “Forget about the bloody gods and listen to what I am telling you.”
She gets it. Worst loss since Oberyn for me. I can't recover.

I think we saw Margaery lose her composure when Loras got arrested last season but Marg is really the kind of person who rarely lets her mask slip, so when she does it's quite alarming, so to see her panic, her who is usually so political, and see her be the smartest person in the room, have the best read of Cersei of ANYONE. Really effective scene.

Marg's plotting reminded me of S1 when Ned was trying to head off (no pun intended) Cersei but got screwed because he miscalculated how quickly and ruthlessly she could act.
Fitting that Margaery was the smartest person in the room until the very end. The character went out with dignity and a proud fandom.

[ShouldersSideways]

Originally posted by zoldyck

why are some of you saying that Arya will kill Melisandre, the two have interacted only once and Melisendre have done nothing to Arya compared to what other have done to her? Am i missing something?

Arya recites her name before she goes to bed at night when she's with the Hound so she's officially on her kill list. For taking Gendry

[Raster]

Dany herself acknowledged that her father was mad. Jaime killing him for the greater good shouldn't bother her much tbh

[fridayteenage]

Originally posted by Eóghan Scherzy

He was talking about Jaime sis', not Jon.

You have poor reading comprehension sis.

...I hope Sansa gets to kill Littlefinger.

Dany herself acknowledged that her father was mad. Jaime killing him for the greater good shouldn't bother her much tbh

So if your daddy was crazy you wouldn't have a problem with marrying the person who killed him? Okay sis.

[Eóghan Scherzy]

Originally posted by Raster

No way Cersei makes it to season 8. She's screwed and literally only has Qyburn and the Mountain.

I thought the same thing about this season. I really thought we were reaching the end of Cersei's story, that she had nothing left to offer, that she would take down Kings Landing with her and blow it entirely.

And here we are beginning a whole new chapter of her story.

[Raster]

Originally posted by fridayteenage

So if your daddy was crazy you wouldn't have a problem with marrying the person who killed him? Okay sis.

...considering he was about to kill half a million people when he was stabbed, I sure wouldn't mind.

[ShouldersSideways]

Originally posted by Eóghan Scherzy

I thought the same thing about this season. I really thought we were reaching the end of Cersei's story, that she had nothing left to offer, that she would take down Kings Landing with her and blow it entirely.

And here we are beginning a whole new chapter of her story.

I hope she runs away to Casterly Rock and leaves KL in flames for Dany just for the meltdowns.

[HazelHyphen]

Originally posted by *-ChriZ-*

Just remember: Valar morghulis.

But she is no man.... I'm gonna bury myself in my sorrows now.

[i spit on haters]

The designer discussing crafting Cersei's now iconic gown. http://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/...e-cersei-dress

“Black was the obvious choice,” Clapton said. “Yes, it is for mourning her children, her father . . . but it’s more than that. To me, it represents a deadness inside her—the overwhelming desire for power at any cost. The multi-layered effect created by mounting the leather onto silver brocade gives a more complex feeling, implying that nothing achieved is ever simple.”