Chart Listings: Billboard Charts (June 19-26, 2016) - Page 14

Rico Shameless v2

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Originally posted by Bey Admired

The GP thinks that. Certain stans of certain artists on here are the only people who value streaming so highly.

I understand the disdain for streaming by certain people, but this is just gross exaggeration. And petty.

Bey Admired

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Originally posted by Rico Shameless v2

I understand the disdain for streaming by certain people, but this is just gross exaggeration. And petty.

I'm sorry you feel that way, but I understand why.

blackbeatxx

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Originally posted by alexanderao

This is just my opinion, but I personally think if you asked younger music consumers, they'd say that streaming is way more important than sales and you'd definitely hear some variations of "nobody buys music anymore."

If you asked the HAC/AC crowd, the results would probably be different. But the younger pop/rhythmic crowd, which has more favorable attitudes towards streaming and is far more acquainted with it, has more influence on the industry. Quite a few adults are beginning to embrace streaming as well.

this is the fact tbh. in sweden actually, it's gone so far that vinyls are about to sell more than CD's, so basically all music consumption here is spotify+radio

but it's till more impressive to sell massive albums than have massive streams, but the overall popularity, albeit with casual listeners, are from streaming. same with the jukebox in the 50's, it really catapulted the youth into music consuming.
spotify etc is the jukebox of the 10's

ARTPØP

Early Predictions.

(01) One Dance || iTunes: #4 || Radio: #2 || Spotify: #1 || YouTube: N/A (=)
(02) Can't Stop The Feeling! || iTunes: #1 || Radio: #1 || Spotify: #10 || YouTube: #16 (=)
(03) Panda || iTunes: #12* || Radio: #14 || Spotify: #2 || YouTube: #1 (=)

(04) Don't Let Me Down || iTunes: #6 || Radio: #3 || Spotify: #7 || YouTube: #9 (=)
(05) This Is What You Came For || iTunes: #3 || Radio: #7 || Spotify: #5 || YouTube: #5 (+1)
(06) Cheap Thrills || iTunes: #3* || Radio: #13 || Spotify: #11 || YouTube: N/A (+2)
(07) Needed Me || iTunes: #24 || Radio: #18 || Spotify: #4 || YouTube: #4 (=)
(08) Work From Home || iTunes: #15 || Radio: #8 || Spotify: #9 || YouTube: #3 (-3)
(09) Don't Mind || iTunes: #13* || Radio: #9 || Spotify: #8 || YouTube: #10 (+1)
(10) Just Like Fire || iTunes: #9 || Radio: #6 || Spotify: #112 || YouTube: N/A (+2)

(11) I Took A Pill In Ibiza || iTunes: #28 || Radio: #4 || Spotify: #13 || YouTube: #15 (-2)
(12) Ride || iTunes: #8 || Radio: #15 || Spotify: #12 || YouTube: N/A (+1)
(13) 7 Years || iTunes: #20 || Radio: #11 || Spotify: #37 || YouTube: #7 (-2)
(14) Me Too || iTunes: #4* || Radio: #49 || Spotify: #89 || YouTube: #11 (+4)
(15) H.O.L.Y. || iTunes: #5 || Radio: #32 || Spotify: #68 || YouTube: N/A (+2)
(16) Send My Love || iTunes: #13 || Radio: #22 || Spotify: #26 || YouTube: N/A (+4)
(17) Heathens || iTunes: #10 || Radio: #390 || Spotify: #14 || YouTube: N/A (NEW)
(18) Dangerous Woman || iTunes: #33 || Radio: #5 || Spotify: #43 || YouTube: N/A (-3)
(19) Work || iTunes: #80 || Radio: #34 || Spotify: #25 || YouTube: #2 (-3)
(20) Controlla || iTunes: #34 || Radio: #50 || Spotify: #6 || YouTube: N/A (+3)

LostInStereo100

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Originally posted by Bey Admired

The GP thinks that. Certain stans of certain artists on here are the only people who value streaming so highly.

You do realize you can chart top 10 on iTunes now with like 40K or 50K sales? That's not a good indicator of what's popular. Considering streams now average like 10-15 million per week in the top 10 streaming charts

Tsuko

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Originally posted by alexanderao

This is just my opinion, but I personally think if you asked younger music consumers, they'd say that streaming is way more important than sales and you'd definitely hear some variations of "nobody buys music anymore."

If you asked the HAC/AC crowd, the results would probably be different. But the younger pop/rhythmic crowd, which has more favorable attitudes towards streaming and is far more acquainted with it, has more influence on the industry. Quite a few adults are beginning to embrace streaming as well.

Even 10 years ago hardly any young people were buying music. Everybody I knew illegally downloaded back then.

In the mid-00s when I was a teenager most of our Internet connections were too slow to download lots of music fast from the Interent, so one person would burn their songs onto a CD, then give the CD to their friend, they'd go home and move the music from their CD onto their computer (then their iPod/mp3 player), then take the CD back to school and give it to another friend, and so on.

To be fair, I know it wasn't unusual for people to buy albums from shops back then, but genuinely in my entire life I think I've met only one person who bought songs off iTunes.

Dekkan

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Originally posted by Bey Admired

The GP thinks that. Certain stans of certain artists on here are the only people who value streaming so highly.

You're so wrong

Dekkan

In my country digital sales has never been a thing. Never. After physical sales era, the GP moved on to streaming services, mainly Youtube. Recently Spotify has started to gain immensely, too. Sales are still important in English speaking countries and maybe some Western European ones. But they'll convert soon and it's already happening.

alexanderao

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Originally posted by Tsuko

Even 10 years ago hardly any young people were buying music. Everybody I knew illegally downloaded back then.

In the mid-00s when I was a teenager most of our Internet connections were too slow to download lots of music fast from the Interent, so one person would burn their songs onto a CD, then give the CD to their friend, they'd go home and move the music from their CD onto their computer (then their iPod/mp3 player), then take the CD back to school and give it to another friend, and so on.

To be fair, I know it wasn't unusual for people to buy albums from shops back then, but genuinely in my entire life I think I've met only one person who bought songs off iTunes.

Well, 10 years ago, digital sales were just taking off; they hadn't penetrated the mainstream. From 2010 - 2013, when sales were at their peak, basically everyone I knew bought music from iTunes.

But obviously people have always been pirating.

NoMythologies

Early Predictions:

1. One Dance 439
2. Can't Stop the Feeling! 394
3. Panda 350
4. Don't Let Me Down 337
5. This is What You Came For 322
6. Cheap Thrills 273
7. Don't Mind 245
8. Needed Me 242
9. Work from Home 242
10. I Took a Pill in Ibiza 224
11. Ride 223
12. Just Like Fire 205
13. 7 Years 191
14. Dangerous Woman 178
15. H.O.L.Y. 176
16. Me Too 168
17. Send My Love 165
18. Work 164
19. Controlla 156
20. Close 150

Edit: Forgot about Close

Ivan_brit

88 Re-Entry 3 Hymn For The Weekend - Coldplay

Gooo they are like 3 months late but Coldplay 2nd singles always do well at the Us!

89. Kiss It Better -Rihanna Yasss Longetivity!

Why Calvin only would rise +1 next week??? The video already have 30 million views Im pretty sure it would reach at least 40 million by thursday midnight

Almighty Gaga

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Originally posted by Ivan_brit

Why Calvin only would rise +1 next week??? The video already have 30 million views Im pretty sure it would reach at least 40 million by thursday midnight

Only around 8% of the views are from the US.

UnusualBoy

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Originally posted by Ivan_brit

88 Re-Entry 3 Hymn For The Weekend - Coldplay

Gooo they are like 3 months late but Coldplay 2nd singles always do well at the Us!

89. Kiss It Better -Rihanna Yasss Longetivity!

Why Calvin only would rise +1 next week??? The video already have 30 million views Im pretty sure it would reach at least 40 million by thursday midnight

I assume that most of its views will be WW not from US so I guess that's why people aren't expecting it to rise that much.

Bey Admired

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Originally posted by LostInStereo100

You do realize you can chart top 10 on iTunes now with like 40K or 50K sales? That's not a good indicator of what's popular. Considering streams now average like 10-15 million per week in the top 10 streaming charts

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Originally posted by Dekkan

You're so wrong

It's my opinion that stans of artists who are more successful on streaming than sales will champion streaming until they draw their last breath. Stans of artists who do better with sales are more likely to champion sales and express how they believe that streaming shouldn't play such a huge part in the charts. It goes round and round in circles. We will never agree.

NoMythologies

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Originally posted by Ivan_brit

Why Calvin only would rise +1 next week??? The video already have 30 million views Im pretty sure it would reach at least 40 million by thursday midnight

It's only trending about 3.5-4M views on youtube in the US for the week and it'll get a boost of around 400K on spotify. I could be underestimating its boost on other services and it could come in at #4 but I don't see it getting any higher than that.

DLMD is still really strong right now. Its essentially even on sales and streaming this coming week and still rising on airplay.

fridayteenage

most 100k weeks this year is One Dance at 8.
CSTF has 6 so far.

alexanderao

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Originally posted by Bey Admired

It's my opinion that stans of artists who are more successful on streaming than sales will champion streaming until they draw their last breath. Stans of artists who do better with sales are more likely to champion sales and express how they believe that streaming shouldn't play such a huge part in the charts. It goes round and round in circles. We will never agree.

But you claimed that a majority of the general public takes the latter stance, not just stans of artists who do well on iTunes.

Hopefully everyone will agree that streaming's influence is warranted when sales have declined to the point where streaming is not just the preferred form of music consumption but the dominant one and sales are rendered totally irrelevant as a metric to gauge popularity (like what is occurring in Sweden, as blackbeatxx mentioned).

simmnfierzig

Full early predictions

1. One Dance 415 (=)
2. Can't Stop The Feeling 365 (=)
3. Panda 347 (=)
4. Don't Let Me Down 313 (=)
5. This Is What You Came For 294 (+1)
6. Cheap Thrills 245 (+2)
7. Needed Me 237 (=)
8. Work From Home 232 (-3)
9. Don't Mind 231 (+1)
10. I Took A Pill In Ibiza 207 (-1)
11. Ride 203 (+2)
12. Just Like Fire 184 (=)
13. 7 Years 179 (-2)
14. Dangerous Woman 163 (+1)
15. H.O.L.Y. 162 (+2)
16. Work 155 (=)
17. Send My Love 152 (+3)
18. Me Too 151 (=)
19. Controlla 147 (+4)
20. Close 140 (-6)

21-100

luckythisway

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Originally posted by blackbeatxx

very mixed feelings tbh

CP is much better, but it's great tho that it got so high!
and i want the successes keep on comin

What is CP?

alexanderao

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Originally posted by luckythisway

What is CP?

Chasing Pavements; it was her first hit, peaking at #21 in 2009.