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Originally posted by Andres
But I've given my points as to why she isn't a progressive in my eyes and in the eyes of many others.
and we already stated that there is is no concrete definition, plenty of times.
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I didn't see it. I may have missed it, but I did not see you say anything of the sort until just now with the $12 minimum wage and the fracking issue. I understand being wary of fracking. I get that. However, I don't see how you can claim advocating for a 65% increase in the minimum wage isn't "progressive" when being progressive is about making positive progress forward. And her reasoning is that at a national level, it would be unwise to push $15 without accomplishing $12 and then assessing additional increases later. I don't see how that's an issue. To me, it's just logical. Even if you look into Bernie's plan which is to increase to $15 incrementally... That's literally what Hillary's plan is, it's just that her goal is $12 and then monitor that impact before making additional jumps that might end up actually hurting the economy. I don't see how that isn't progressive.