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Celeb News: M.I.A: Is Beyoncé going to say Muslim Lives Matter?
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Beyonce is not obligated to talk about Muslim issue even though there r so many Black who r muslims .
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Originally posted by Tropez
I agree with you, but the US and Russia are doing this to come out as hero's and expand their power. They don't care about Syria. The US wants to push ISIS into Syria and have them defeat Assad so they can come in and take them out. Killing two birds with one stone and looking like the hero. Russia wants the opposite but they're a declining power and won't be able to afford this war. But at the end of the day when it's all said and done. Many countries are the cause the bloodshed. It would only get attention if a celebrity who is taken seriously talks about it. If Beyoncé comes out and speaks about this she'll get attacked because what would she know about it? Her talking about black lives is much stronger because she is black, she knows about the issues. For example no matter how hard a man tries he can never truly speak for what a woman goes through.
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It doesnt matter how seriously you are taken. M.I.A. had a lot of respect after Arular and Kala and she was still laughed at when she was talking about the mass surveillance. She still is laughed at for it, even when she was proven right after the NSA documents leaked. But there is one basic thing that everyone understands and that is war = suffering. If there were at least people trying to push the peace movement like it used to be, but even that is not happening anywhere and people dont seem to care. I wish people who have huge platforms and following were more courageous about talking the world issues or at least trying to get people to talk about it by asking certain questions and direct them on fans, posting news, articles, express their concerns etc. even that can help to get people somehow more aware and interested about the issues. And thats also M.I.A.s point, she just didnt chose the best way to word it.
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Public Enemy did discuss these issues in 1980's and Lauryn Hill did discuss it in the 1990's but in America black people are still dying, so Beyoncé (amongst others) are discussing it now.
MIA comes across as if she's over black civil rights, its very strange.
Oppression isn't a competition, yes Muslims, Syrians etc all experience racism, violence, death. Just because it's percieved as being more severe doesn't invalidate the struggles of black people in America. These can co-exist.
Beyoncé is using her lived experience as a southern black american woman to bring attention to theses issues, just like MIA uses her lived experience as a refugee to discuss those issues.
Has MIA ever actively campaigned for BLM? Not as far as I know.
I'm sorry if black people dying in America is boring to MIA, but I don't think its boring to the families those deaths rip apart.
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Didn't MIA do something like this when gay marriage was legalised? She took the attention onto muslims I think ?? does anyone remember?
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Originally posted by CallumDavies
Public Enemy did discuss these issues in 1980's and Lauryn Hill did discuss it in the 1990's but in America black people are still dying, so Beyoncé (amongst others) are discussing it now.
MIA comes across as if she's over black civil rights, its very strange.
Oppression isn't a competition, yes Muslims, Syrians etc all experience racism, violence, death. Just because it's percieved as being more severe doesn't invalidate the struggles of black people in America. These can co-exist.
Beyoncé is using her lived experience as a southern black american woman to bring attention to theses issues, just like MIA uses her lived experience as a muslim refugee to discuss those issues.
Has MIA ever actively campaigned for BLM? Not as far as I know. Then she shouldn't expect Beyoncé to do the same for Muslims etc.
I'm sorry if black people dying in America is boring to MIA, but I don't think its boring to the families those deaths rip apart.
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M.I.A. is not muslim.
And she is not over black civil rights, she actively addresses the struggles of black people in countries around the world even when she is not black, because she sees them, acknowledges them and wants people to get aware and talk about them.
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Originally posted by jacklovesyou1
Didn't MIA do something like this when gay marriage was legalised? She took the attention onto muslims I think ?? does anyone remember?
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I think she actually bought up BLM and basically implied that black gay men must be feeling a mixture of emotions (they can get married but their brothers are being killed)
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I think she actually bought up BLM and basically implied that black gay men must be feeling a mixture of emotions (they can get married but their brothers are being killed)
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oooohhhh right fair enough
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Originally posted by Bayonsay
Why are you obligated to speak on issues that don't personally affect you, especially when your own issues aren't yet resolved?
loads of my own people are being killed on my doorstep but nvm I'll discuss that later, let me just step over them and focus on the other hemisphere..." and vice-versa
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I wasn't aware you couldn't speak on more than one issue at a time, fascinating really.
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Where are the gay lives that end in muslim countries?? This is made up thought u created to suit your hatred to Muslims. Lets talk FACTS.Last time I check during the last 100 years one million algerians killed by French, thousands of palestine people were killed and removed from their land because Britain decides to make a home for jews, US was responsible for the death of thousands of people in Iraq and Afghanistan ...so on. Muslims r the victim of western terrorism.
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Muslims have also been victims of muslim terrorism,the fight each other all the time and when it gets out of hand they call for western intervention then turn around to blame the west when things go sour.There is plenty of blame to go around,sure the west isn't innocent but the muslims are also part of the problem.
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I wasn't aware you couldn't speak on more than one issue at a time, fascinating really.
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I wasn't aware that you have to speak on all issues .
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Okay sure she has a point. But there's nothing wrong with Beyonce addressing the issue that's most relevant to her culture first. Especially when it's something that gets her so much mainstream exposure and helps further frame her as an activist. An identity that she greatly benefitted from in terms of public goodwill and media coverage the last time that she released an album and included it in her music. The national conversation has shifted to identity experiences and representation politics of a group that she's a part of so of course she's going to and should use that.
Especially since now she can actually provide a unique viewpoint to the argument as it comes directly from her experiences rather than a TED talk.
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Originally posted by Grumpy Gills
I wasn't aware you couldn't speak on more than one issue at a time, fascinating really.
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This.
You dont have to be black to support BLM or LGBT. I do support both and dont belong to either. Its just people should join forces and help support those who need it. And Syrians and people from Middle East really do need the support so much right now. Noone can support all issues at once, but the "this doesnt have anything to do with me so why should I care" attitude is just wrong.
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where ?
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where ?
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Police shots (What's up with that?)
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Why don't M.I.A point out those celebrities who don't use their platform to promote social rights and issues. Honestly, one of my favourite things about Beyoncé is that she brings awareness to gender and race rights -- something I am also passionate about. But 95% of the industry doesn't give two ***** -- they just don't wanna get involved. They think it's best to stay quiet. Props to people like Madonna, Lady Gaga, Amandla Stenberg, Rowan Blanchard and Bennett from Orange Is The New Black (not sure what his name is). 
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Originally posted by Bríseis
Police shots (What's up with that?)
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Police brutality is a universal isssue tho,so this proves nothing i was expecting something more direct.
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Then she should collaborate with Beyoncé and both talk about it, cause Bey is not muslin, she doesn't have the "confidence" to talk about it and she would get dragged for using it and not being genuine.
Beyoncé is black and she is just defending her race and being proud. She is not saying all the other races don't matter or they are inferior.
M.I.A. you can do much better.
EDIT: I thought M.I.A. was muslin, either way she is more educated on Islam than Beyoncé.
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I mean of course M.I.A. is right, but it's foolish for her or anyone to expect celebrities to REALLY advocate and speak about the big issues in the world, especially someone like Beyonce whose "activism" is so hollow and contrived, and would NEVER do or say anything that could damage her perfect image.
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