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Discussion: U.S. Election 2016: Primary Season
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I've had conflicting feelings as to whether or not I should officially endorse Bernie Sanders as the Democratic nominee for President of the United States.
I would be making this decision for only the second time in my life. The first time was for Barack Obama, the master of the spoken word whose brilliance (and smile) brought people together and ignited our spirits for the first time in decades. Aside from endorsing Barack Obama, I have refused to step into the arena of party politics.
My choice, from an early age, has been to engage in social change from the ground up, using the power of organized nonviolence. A distrust of the political process was firmly in place by the time I was 15. As a daughter of Quakers I pledged my allegiance not to a flag or a nation state but to humankind, the two often having little to do with each other.
Ideally, both Obama and Sanders could have used their unique gifts to build a grass roots movement, sidestepping the Oval Office and going directly to the streets to organize from the sidewalks, street corners, living rooms and churches. Gandhi himself refused to be part of the newly formed Independent India government after he led the country to independence, and remained committed to nonviolent opposition.
Can a true political revolution ever start from within the party system? It does seem like an insurmountable contradiction. And to imagine that more than a fraction of Bernie's agenda could ever come to fruition is probably setting expectations too high.
Yet Bernie has won my heart. He supports causes in which I have been personally involved for decades. I take great strength from his firm stance against the death penalty, (amazing!) his belief that Palestinians should have a place at the bargaining table, (unheard of!) his understanding that the prison system must transform its agenda from punishment to rehabilitation, his desire to treat immigrants as human beings, and of course by his grass roots funding and astonishing refusal to sell himself to the devil on Wall Street, or anywhere else for that matter. I am profoundly moved by this elder statesman, his compelling honesty, and his ability to engage young people.
Why am I not spending my time trying to woo Bernie into grass roots organizing? For the moment I'm going with my heart, which I mentioned, he has won. I am not sold on "the system" and never will be. I’m sold on the guy from Brooklyn.
I've learned a lot while writing this piece. I know that I am ambivalent about supporting someone who will be thrown to the lions if he wins. He is a lion in his own right, and I want to see him win. Not just to conquer the growing evil in the other party, but also to see what he can do to bend the system towards a less corrupt and more generous country than we are at present.
I joyfully and wholeheartedly endorse Bernie Sanders to be the nominee for the Democratic Party in the 2016 Presidential Election.
-Joan Baez
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538 has Hillary at a 95% chance to win New York, 95% chance to win Maryland, 96% chance to win Pennsylvania, and 92% chance to win California at the moment 
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I went to bed with Hil slaying and wake up to see she's still slaying. Life is goodT.
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Bernie said on the TODAY Show that he's leading in the polls 
What polls are he talking about?
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Originally posted by mermaid_ariel
Bernie said on the TODAY Show that he's leading in the polls
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There's one national poll out that has him at 47% of support and Clinton at 46%. There was one last week too, and like maybe one more in the past 3 weeks before that.
Anyways Sanders: Hillary is of course qualified
The complete 180. #WhichSanders teas indeed  . Good job on realizing your mistake though!
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Originally posted by jpow
538 has Hillary at a 95% chance to win New York, 95% chance to win Maryland, 96% chance to win Pennsylvania, and 92% chance to win California at the moment |
She's gonna destroy in Maryland. She's holding a rally in Baltimore on Sunday and I'm going!!
Also, expect her to win Deleware and likely Connecticut as well!! Coming for that clean sweep, thats our girl!
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Btw Weaver was the one to suggest to Bernie that he needed to go negative on Clinton. He needs to go
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Originally posted by mermaid_ariel
Bernie said on the TODAY Show that he's leading in the polls
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The polls he dreams about when he sleeps. 
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& That new Emerson poll showing Hillary up by 18 in NY. Momentum indeed  |
Wait sis, do you have a link??? I can't find the poll 
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Bernie speaking at the vatican 
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Yeah, this will probably be close to what we get on the 19th. Seems pretty accurate.
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I read on Reddit that the Emerson poll is landline only, is that true? Can't find a link to the full poll, could somebody link me?
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This is a lot more believable than their 48 point lead for Hillary. 
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Originally posted by Sasha.
I read on Reddit that the Emerson poll is landline only, is that true? Can't find a link to the full poll, could somebody link me?
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Yes. It's true, Emerson is landline only
And the full poll will be released tomorrow for both sides. Only the results got released today.
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Yes. It's true, Emerson is landline only
And the full poll will be released tomorrow for both sides. Only the results got released today.
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But emerson is usually praised for accuracy?
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Originally posted by RatedG²
Yes. It's true, Emerson is landline only
And the full poll will be released tomorrow for both sides. Only the results got released today.
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Thanks! Hrm, trailing 18 points with landlines only isn't too shabby. What's up with the huge disparity between the last poll and this one though?
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But emerson is usually praised for accuracy?
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This is true, they're usually accurate (slightly better than average)
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Originally posted by Sasha.
Thanks! Hrm, trailing 18 points with landlines only isn't too shabby. What's up with the huge disparity between the last poll and this one though?
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That I can't give you just yet. When the full poll is released tomorrow it'll become clearer about what went on with the 30 point swing in Sanders' favor
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HRC will win NY by 17%
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I agree. Maybe more.
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