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Discussion: U.S. Election 2016: Primary Season
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Originally posted by Venus Temple
I'm kinda worried about the minimum wage increase. I live in a small town and work at this local pizza parlor. My boss is the sweetest lady in the world, and she has told me she barely makes enough profit to pay us. I get paid $8.25 after I've received a few raises, but she starts everhone at minimum wage ($7.25) We have 10 workers right now, how on earth will she be able to hike everyone's pay over DOUBLE?
My mouth is watering at the idea of getting $12-$15 an hour, but I feel like she would have to fire a lot of people or cut our hours MAJORLY. 
Does anyone have any solid proof, articles, etc. that can ease my worries? I mean the idea of me getting paid $15 an hour for making pizzas is honestly pretty damn ridiculous. That is sooo much money. I'm just a student, I don't have that many bills to pay yet. If I were living alone and going to college, then yeah I would be struggling but at the same time my job isn't that hard..
I'm super conflicted on raising minimum wage. Part of me has the conservative opinion that 'minimum work = minimum pay". But I can see the other side I guess.. Can any one of you push me all the way one way? |
Well, your concern is very legitimate. $15 minimum wage nationality would massively hurt small businesses that barely get by. I personally do not think it's worth it. I'm all for raising the minimum wage, but it should be done very incrementally and make sure that top economists study the impact of such raises so that it's not hurting the economy along the way.
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Bernie only lost Milwaukee by less than 4,000 votes. That's a lot better than I thought.
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Originally posted by DivaDown
I can't believe out of 72 counties in Wisconsin, Bernie Sanders is gonna win 68 of them!!!!  |
There were a few states where he won all of the counties. But yes Wisconsin has been impressive for him
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Originally posted by Mike91
Bernie only lost Milwaukee by 4,000 votes. That's a lot better than I thought.
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That actually is a lot better than I was expecting.
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Originally posted by Bloo
She's said that she wants to try a smaller number before jumping to $15 if $12 doesn't work well... If he's wanting to reach $15 incrementally, then I don't think that's a valid criticism.
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Well everyone knows that instantly raising the minimum wage would be disastrous. Businesses need time to adjust.
The way I see it, people have more money to spend at stores and restaurants. Any extra costs from paying employees more would be erased by the extra revenue from new / higher spending customers. And for the small town argument, more people might be convinced to move to smaller towns since their money goes farther, but then again it's really no different now since the minimum wage in big cities are not high enough compared to the cost of living. I don't think small towns would suffer from it.
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Originally posted by RatedG²
Omg I knew we were whiter but not by that much  |
If you look at the Top 15 blackest states, of the 12 that have held primaries/caucuses, Hillary has won 11 of those 12 states (Michigan being the holdout).
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Originally posted by RatedG²
He's coming to PA tomorrow. He's not trying it seems in Maryland though. Don't know if it's a snub because black voters are a large group there or if it's smart campaigning since he's highly unlikely to win it
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Bernie will snub MD and DE completely. He'll focus most of his time on PA with some CT and RI on the side.
Personally, I expect him to lose all 5. Maaaybe he'll win RI but that's all.
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Now she'll only be ahead by ~200 pledged delegates 
That's double the lead Obama had over her and she won OH, PA, NY, FL, NY, and CA. Bernie isn't winning the nomination lol.
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Originally posted by Cheetos
Now she'll only be ahead by ~200 pledged delegates
That's double the lead Obama had over her and she won OH, PA, NY, FL, NY, and CA. Bernie isn't winning the nomination lol. |
Yes he is 
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Hillary will be on MSNBC tomorrow at 8:45
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Originally posted by Cheetos
Now she'll only be ahead by ~200 pledged delegates
That's double the lead Obama had over her and she won OH, PA, NY, FL, NY, and CA. Bernie isn't winning the nomination lol. |
#FeelTheMath 
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Originally posted by foxaylove
If you look at the Top 15 blackest states, of the 12 that have held primaries/caucuses, Hillary has won 11 of those 12 states (Michigan being the holdout).
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New York is top 15 
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Originally posted by Marvin
Yes he is |
Show me the numbers.
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Originally posted by RatedG²
New York is top 15 |
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Originally posted by Marvin
Yes he is |
have fun keeping up that delusion lol
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Originally posted by Marvin
Yes he is |
No he isn't. 
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Originally posted by Benzene
Bernie will snub MD and DE completely. He'll focus most of his time on PA with some CT and RI on the side.
Personally, I expect him to lose all 5. Maaaybe he'll win RI but that's all.
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Rhode Island. Is that a particularly rich state?
I don't see him winning the other 4 either.
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Member Since: 8/29/2011
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Originally posted by Venus Temple
I'm kinda worried about the minimum wage increase. I live in a small town and work at this local pizza parlor. My boss is the sweetest lady in the world, and she has told me she barely makes enough profit to pay us. I get paid $8.25 after I've received a few raises, but she starts everhone at minimum wage ($7.25) We have 10 workers right now, how on earth will she be able to hike everyone's pay over DOUBLE?
My mouth is watering at the idea of getting $12-$15 an hour, but I feel like she would have to fire a lot of people or cut our hours MAJORLY.
Does anyone have any solid proof, articles, etc. that can ease my worries? I mean the idea of me getting paid $15 an hour for making pizzas is honestly pretty damn ridiculous. That is sooo much money. I'm just a student, I don't have that many bills to pay yet. If I were living alone and going to college, then yeah I would be struggling but at the same time my job isn't that hard..
I'm super conflicted on raising minimum wage. Part of me has the conservative opinion that 'minimum work = minimum pay". But I can see the other side I guess.. Can any one of you push me all the way one way? |
What would you and your friends do with a raise? Spend it. The increase in consumption will give your boss more costumers.
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Originally posted by Venus Temple
I'm kinda worried about the minimum wage increase. I live in a small town and work at this local pizza parlor. My boss is the sweetest lady in the world, and she has told me she barely makes enough profit to pay us. I get paid $8.25 after I've received a few raises, but she starts everhone at minimum wage ($7.25) We have 10 workers right now, how on earth will she be able to hike everyone's pay over DOUBLE?
My mouth is watering at the idea of getting $12-$15 an hour, but I feel like she would have to fire a lot of people or cut our hours MAJORLY.
Does anyone have any solid proof, articles, etc. that can ease my worries? I mean the idea of me getting paid $15 an hour for making pizzas is honestly pretty damn ridiculous. That is sooo much money. I'm just a student, I don't have that many bills to pay yet. If I were living alone and going to college, then yeah I would be struggling but at the same time my job isn't that hard..
I'm super conflicted on raising minimum wage. Part of me has the conservative opinion that 'minimum work = minimum pay". But I can see the other side I guess.. Can any one of you push me all the way one way? |
The biggest losers of higher wages will be the small businesses. There will be plenty of the smaller companies who won't be able to afford the wages. However, those that are family-ran, those will be the ones to rely on free labor via "volunteering by relatives," to get by. I hope this doesn't severely impact small business owners. The hope for balancing out will be that, the higher the wages, the more money in consumer pockets to spend.
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Originally posted by Ramcoro
What would you and your friends do with a raise? Spend it. The increase in consumption will give your boss more costumers. |
Not necessarily. Nothing guarantees that a good majority of consumption would go to small businesses for that logic to hold. In fact, it'd be more likely that big businesses would be able to out-compete small businesses in prices and attract more customers.
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