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Discussion: U.S. Election 2016: Primary Season
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Bernie has spoken up about minority issues and fought his entire life to secure a stimulating atmosphere for minorities and people of color. The narrow view of his campaign focusing on liberal states where he actually has potential at winning is in fact a dismissal to the core values he stands for. His campaign's pandering isn't a representation of who he is as a progressive advocate and fighter. It makes absolutely no sense to turn everything into a raise bait. As a President, he will be acting upon who he is, what he believes in, what he fought for throughout his political career, and what he promised to attempt getting done; NOT what states he put the spotlights on during his one-year race towards the presidency. Please bring more fairness to your thinking process.
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Originally posted by heckinglovato
You're making too much of something that doesn't exist, and you're going out of your way to make things about race. I can't seem to figure out where the big deal is. I don't think there is a deal to begin with.
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It isn't a big deal.
They're just reaching for anything.
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Originally posted by heckinglovato
Bernie has spoken up about minority issues and fought his entire life to secure a stimulating atmosphere for minorities and people of color. The narrow view of his campaign focusing on liberal states where he actually has potential at winning is in fact a dismissal to the core values he stands for. His campaign's pandering isn't a representation of who he is as a progressive advocate and fighter. It makes absolutely no sense to turn everything into a raise bait. As a President, he will be acting upon who he is, what he believes in, what he fought for throughout his political career, and what he promised to attempt getting done; NOT what states he put the spotlights on during his one-year race towards the presidency. Please bring more fairness to your thinking process.
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It's quite representative of his supporters though. Maybe, he's finally playing to his strengths. Remember, these are the same people that insist they're going to vote for Trump over Hillary. They don't really care about minorities or the issues affecting them.
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Member Since: 1/20/2012
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Originally posted by Bey Admired
It's quite representative of his supporters though. Maybe, he's finally playing to his strengths. Remember, these are the same people that insist they're going to vote for Trump over Hillary. They don't really care about minorities or the issues affecting them.
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Hillary has racist, sexist, xenophobic, etc supporters also.
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Originally posted by heckinglovato
You're making too much of something that doesn't exist, and you're going out of your way to make things about race. I can't seem to figure out where the big deal is. I don't think there is a deal to begin with.
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You sound just like a pre-2016 Republican 
There's a reason why they're called dog whistles.
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Originally posted by Marvin
Hillary has racist, sexist, xenophobic, etc supporters also.
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I've truly never heard one Hillary supporter say they'd vote for the bigoted racist ass that is Trump over Bernie. I'm sure, there's a couple if you look hard enough. Indeed, nowhere close to the extent of Bernie supporters' saying it though.
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Member Since: 6/20/2012
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Originally posted by Bey Admired
It's quite representative of his supporters though. Maybe, he's finally playing to his strengths. Remember, these are the same people that insist they're going to vote for Trump over Hillary. They don't really care about minorities or the issues affecting them.
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I don't give jack **** about anyone's supporters. The world is getting a new leader whose policies will affect every inch of every country on the planet. The "but his supporters!!!!1!!!!!111" argument means absolutely nothing. I can't with a full conscience support a PRESIDENTIAL candidate while taking into consideration what their supporters do or say.
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Originally posted by Bey Admired
It's quite representative of his supporters though. Maybe, he's finally playing to his strengths. Remember, these are the same people that insist they're going to vote for Trump over Hillary. They don't really care about minorities or the issues affecting them.
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This election has shown that the far-left is just as tone deaf on race as the far-right. I already knew this, but it's nice to see it confirmed. I'd say they're possibly even worse, considering it comes with a nice chunk of "I know what's best for you" paternalism.  Right-wingers will just call you the n-word and keep it moving.
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Originally posted by Benzene
This election has shown that the far-left is just as tone deaf on race as the far-right. I already knew this, but it's nice to see it confirmed. I'd say they're possibly even worse, considering it comes with a nice chunk of "I know what's best for you" paternalism. Right-wingers will just call you the n-word and keep it moving. |
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Originally posted by Benzene
This election has shown that the far-left is just as tone deaf on race as the far-right. I already knew this, but it's nice to see it confirmed. I'd say they're possibly even worse, considering it comes with a nice chunk of "I know what's best for you" paternalism. Right-wingers will just call you the n-word and keep it moving. |
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Originally posted by Bey Admired
It's quite representative of his supporters though. Maybe, he's finally playing to his strengths. Remember, these are the same people that insist they're going to vote for Trump over Hillary. They don't really care about minorities or the issues affecting them.
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Not just his supporters, it's the message his campaign has been sending, especially as of late. As the proverb goes the fish rots from the head.
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Originally posted by Bey Admired
I've truly never heard one Hillary supporter say they'd vote for the bigoted racist ass that is Trump over Bernie. I'm sure, there's a couple if you look hard enough. Indeed, nowhere close to the extent of Bernie supporters' saying it though.
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RatedG² planned on voting Trump over Bernie until the KKK thing... I'm sure there's many of them, but they just aren't as vocal.
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I can't continue debating with anybody who thinks the far-left is bad for minorities. It's extremely offensive, wrong and entirely dismissive of everything the far-left works hard to achieve for minorities.
That statement is just disgusting. And to even say "possibly worse than the far-right" genuinely makes my stomach turn.
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Let's waste resources in states that we have virtually no chance of winning. That makes a lot of sense.
But no Bernie just hates black people!
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Member Since: 8/7/2015
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Originally posted by heckinglovato
I don't give jack **** about anyone's supporters. The world is getting a new leader whose policies will affect every inch of every country on the planet. The "but his supporters!!!!1!!!!!111" argument means absolutely nothing. I can't with a full conscience support a PRESIDENTIAL candidate while taking into consideration what their supporters do or say.
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A candidates supporters' are quite telling of a candidates policies and campaign. It matters a lot.
You're telling me that it doesn't matter how Trump's supporters are acting? That would be absurd. They are acting that way because of the message Trump is sending.
Same with Bernie. He has run a campaign on deflating the public trust of Hillary. His supporters' have responded by saying they're going to vote for Trump over Hillary.
The two - the candidate and their supporters - go hand in hand.
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The far-left is awful. No ifs, ands, or buts around it. A comparison to the far-right is not even worthy of debate because they both suck.
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Originally posted by Marvin
RatedG² planned on voting Trump over Bernie until the KKK thing... I'm sure there's many of them, but they just aren't as vocal.
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 . That was a dark time in my life
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Rick Larsen is the reason why superdelegates shouldn't exist.
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Member Since: 8/16/2010
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Originally posted by heckinglovato
I can't continue debating with anybody who thinks the far-left is bad for minorities. It's extremely offensive, wrong and entirely dismissive of everything the far-left works hard to achieve for minorities.
That statement is just disgusting. And to even say "possibly worse than the far-right" genuinely makes my stomach turn.
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The far-left is never willing to examine themselves on race. They assume themselves infallible just because they're not as overtly racist as people like Trump. It's too bad really, as it hinders the ability to form a broad coalition.
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Member Since: 8/7/2015
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Originally posted by Marvin
RatedG² planned on voting Trump over Bernie until the KKK thing... I'm sure there's many of them, but they just aren't as vocal.
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Good. It's not a good look for the Democratic Party, the American public, or America as a whole. The whole world is looking and laughing at the **** show going on in America right now. It's not helping when Democratic supporters' are expressing their love for Trump, even going as far as to say they'd vote for him.
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