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Discussion: U.S. Election 2016: Primary Season
Member Since: 8/16/2010
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Originally posted by King Maxx
Trump v Sanders is giving me Bush v Dukakis vibes. And I'm not here for that.
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It would be exactly that.
I'm also wondering how Bernie would campaign for down-ticket Dems, considering that he's been preaching to his cult that the entire party is corrupt. Some of his fans genuinely believe he's the only honest politician in history.
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Member Since: 5/12/2012
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Originally posted by bleuwaffle
That was a) a joke, and b) true.
Are you telling me she didn't run against him and attack him in the past?  Take your stan goggles off. |
That was not a joke... It was his response to a serious criticism that he tried to use to win over Obama fans.
And I'm not saying it's not true, I'm saying it was a cheap shot (you know, the thing you were asking for)... And a terrible argument. Take your stan goggles off. 
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Member Since: 5/18/2012
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Originally posted by bleuwaffle
That was a) a joke, and b) true.
Are you telling me she didn't run against him and attack him in the past? T ake your stan goggles off. |
People on this site are turning this election into a stan thing and its so petty to see.
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Member Since: 5/12/2012
Posts: 7,989
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Originally posted by Tropez
People on this site are turning this election into a stan thing and its so petty to see.
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Go on Twitter, Reddit, Facebook, YouTube, or any site with a comment section and you'll find more substantive conversation takes place in this thread than most of the rest of the Internet.
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Member Since: 8/6/2015
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Originally posted by Bloo
Go on Twitter, Reddit, Facebook, YouTube, or any site with a comment section and you'll find more substantive conversation take place in this thread than most of the rest of the Internet.
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Sis, this is the only site I can bear. Every other site is overflowing with Bernie supporters who kill me if I try to say anything positive about Hillary 
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Member Since: 5/18/2012
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Originally posted by Bloo
Go on Twitter, Reddit, Facebook, YouTube, or any site with a comment section and you'll find more substantive conversation take place in this thread than most of the rest of the Internet.
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Besides Youtube, I don't necessarily agree.
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Member Since: 1/8/2011
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Originally posted by HeyMr.DJ
Isn't voter registration closed for NY? I know Hillary has a ton of younger supporters in NY as well.
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Yeah, last day to register was Friday.
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Half of the vote comes from the city itself.
She'll do real good in upstate, but Bernard and these white liberals in Manhattan, BK...
His "attacks" on Wall Street, fracking, etc. will only affect voters like them.
2008 Primary:
If the blacks come out strong, she'll be good.
She'll carry Staten Island (small percentage of electorate), Bronx, & Queens.
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Member Since: 5/12/2012
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Originally posted by HeyMr.DJ
Sis, this is the only site I can bear. Every other site is overflowing with Bernie supporters who kill me if I try to say anything positive about Hillary |
Same here. I got called a "****ing idiot" on my own wall for sharing an article about how there's a lot of unfounded scandals and conspiracy around Hillary Clinton... It pissed off so many of my liberal friends.
I don't really care because that's just how I am. I take a lot of solace in the fact that all my professors like my Hillary articles and talk to me, in private, about how they prefer Hillary.
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Member Since: 11/26/2010
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Originally posted by Bloo
That was not a joke... It was his response to a serious criticism that he tried to use to win over Obama fans.
And I'm not saying it's not true, I'm saying it was a cheap shot (you know, the thing you were asking for)... And a terrible argument. Take your stan goggles off. |
Hillary was taking cheap shots against Bernie by pointing out times he's disagreed with Obama. I don't see the problem with him disagreeing with him... I mean, does she really expect for someone to support every decision the President makes blindly out of party loyalty? 
At this point Hillary is painting herself as the continuation of the Obama administration which is obviously better than having a Republican in the White House but won't bring about any substantive change.  And the overwhelming support Bernie has been consistently gaining proves that millennials especially are sick of settling for whatever the rich give you and want to take matters into their own hands. Only time will tell though.
Be objective with your criticism. They're politicians, not pop stars.
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
Posts: 16,870
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Originally posted by bleuwaffle
Hillary, but who's surprised? Establishment supports establishment.
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Bernard has been part of the establishment for literally decades.
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Member Since: 8/28/2009
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Originally posted by Bloo
Go on Twitter, Reddit, Facebook, YouTube, or any site with a comment section and you'll find more substantive conversation takes place in this thread than most of the rest of the Internet.
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Add Tumbr to this, they have gone full kookoo
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Member Since: 5/8/2012
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Originally posted by Bloo
Go on Twitter, Reddit, Facebook, YouTube, or any site with a comment section and you'll find more substantive conversation takes place in this thread than most of the rest of the Internet.
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Just because there's a higher % of Hillary supporters here than any other place on the internet doesn't mean that it results in meaningful conversation. People resort to the same name calling, generalizing, sensationalized biased bs in their posts, except it's skewed HIllary. It's better than Youtube at least.
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Member Since: 8/28/2009
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I can't believe bernsters have hacked huffingtonpost comment sections as well. **** off with your delsuions seriously. #feelthemath
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Member Since: 5/12/2012
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Originally posted by bleuwaffle
Hillary was taking cheap shots against Bernie by pointing out times he's disagreed with Obama. I don't see the problem with him disagreeing with him... I mean, does she really expect for someone to support every decision the President makes blindly regardless of whether or not it goes against their morals? |
She was criticizing his vocal opinion of Obama needing to have competition in a primary for the 2012 nomination because it is an unwise decision that could ultimately weaken Obama in 2012. That's a fair criticism. It had nothing to do with disagreeing with Obama on something.
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At this point Hillary is painting herself as the continuation of the Obama administration which is obviously better than having a Republican in the White House but won't bring about any substantive change. And the overwhelming support Bernie has been consistently gaining proves that millennials especially are sick of settling for whatever the rich give you and want to take matters into their own hands. Only time will tell though.
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Hillary is a progressive moderate. She can't paint herself as the most progressive candidate when Bernie is her competition. So, I don't see a problem with that. And, I understand being tired of slow change, but that's how change happens in the US. We're not built for radical change. And a president can't actually do anything to make radical change happen.
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Be objective with your criticism. They're politicians, not pop stars.
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I try my best to be objective. I try my best to support my stances with arguments and evidence. It's not just "Slay Hillary, you look great queen!!!" That's not what happens in here. That's what happens in a pop thread.
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Member Since: 6/20/2012
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Originally posted by Butters
Just because there's a higher % of Hillary supporters here than any other place on the internet doesn't mean that it results in meaningful conversation. People resort to the same name calling, generalizing, sensationalized biased bs in their posts, except it's skewed HIllary. It's better than Youtube at least.
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This. Letter by letter.
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ATRL Contributor
Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by bleuwaffle
Hillary was taking cheap shots against Bernie by pointing out times he's disagreed with Obama. I don't see the problem with him disagreeing with him... I mean, does she really expect for someone to support every decision the President makes blindly based on party loyalty?
At this point Hillary is painting herself as the continuation of the Obama administration which is obviously better than having a Republican in the White House but won't bring about any substantive change. And the overwhelming support Bernie has been consistently gaining proves that millennials especially are sick of settling for whatever the rich give you and want to take matters into their own hands. Only time will tell though.
Be objective with your criticism. They're politicians, not pop stars. |
I agree with this.
I think Hillary gets a lot of unfair criticism and wouldn't be a bad President, she just wouldn't even attempt to bring the change America needs.
That being said, whilst I do think Bernie has the right intentions; i'm skeptical if he could actually bring any change since the political system is so ****ed up and it's near impossible to achieve anything.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by Butters
Just because there's a higher % of Hillary supporters here than any other place on the internet doesn't mean that it results in meaningful conversation. People resort to the same name calling, generalizing, sensationalized biased bs in their posts, except it's skewed HIllary. It's better than Youtube at least.
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I lowkey agree but it's nice for Hillary supporters to have somewhere to flock and be the majority. Anywhere else in the Internet is so heavily skewed towards Bernie that it doesn't give us anywhere to talk, kiki, and celebrate her victories. I can't even post a status about Hillary on my Facebook without all of my millennial fans chiming in to say why she's the devil.
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Member Since: 5/12/2012
Posts: 7,989
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Originally posted by Butters
Just because there's a higher % of Hillary supporters here than any other place on the internet doesn't mean that it results in meaningful conversation. People resort to the same name calling, generalizing, sensationalized biased bs in their posts, except it's skewed HIllary. It's better than Youtube at least.
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Even though there are proportionally more Hillary fans in this thread, that still doesn't mean there's not more substantive discussion. People share articles, ask for feedback, ask questions, etc.
People on Facebook will flat out refer to Hillary as "$hillary", a "corporate hack", etc. They consistently fail to use credible sources and are just hyperbolic in all of their criticisms. I'm sorry, but this is nothing like a comment section of Facebook, YouTube, Tumblr, Reddit, etc. I have yet to see a single person be called a "****ing idiot" for supporting anyone in this thread. Which is one of the many things I've been called for sharing an article on my own Facebook wall.
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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The Obama Administration brought plenty of change for millions of people (affordable healthcare and the legalization of same sex marriage). That status quo is great. Just have to remove Republican obstructionism.
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Member Since: 8/3/2010
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Originally posted by bleuwaffle
What "cheap shots" has Bernie pulled that didn't consist of her past record? Enlighten me.  |
Many
But we can start with the fact that he said she's only hugging Obama to get the black vote
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