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Discussion: U.S. Election 2016: Primary Season
Member Since: 8/3/2010
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Originally posted by Bloo
But Jimmy Dore would likely be a moderator... He's the most radical pundit I've heard. Worse than Bill O'Reilly.
I also think they're taking their channel too seriously.
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Is Jimmy (idk any of them except Ana) the one who would vote Trump over her if Bernie loses? If so then that would honestly not be good and he'd tried to get her in these "gotcha" moments 
If those stats they are touting are true then it would be good to have millennials involved big time. But they keep saying "progressive outlets" etc, making it seem like their channel is the only progressive news outlet (it's not news tbh).
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Member Since: 5/12/2012
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Originally posted by RatedG²
Is Jimmy (idk any of them except Ana) the one who would vote Trump over her if Bernie loses? If so then that would honestly not be good and he'd tried to get her in these "gotcha" moments |
Yep. The annoying one with the glasses that screams and yells 24/7.
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If those stats they are touting are true then it would be good to have millennials involved big time. But they keep saying "progressive outlets" etc, making it seem like their channel is the only progressive news outlet (it's not news tbh).
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I don't know the accuracy of their stats, but I do know they've inflated them in the past. Also, I don't see what the point of hosting a debate on a YouTube channel is. Most people who are big into politics don't even watch TYT.
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Member Since: 8/16/2010
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TYT thinks way too highly of themselves. 
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I think TYT has a point here. Cable news networks are being watched less and less by young people, and if you want to reach young people with politics (which America has kind of failed at recently), they are the network to host a debate with.
According to OpenSlate, an analytics company, TYT was getting 37 million views per month in October 2014. Their viewership has almost certainly grown since then.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by Bloo
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This would be nearly as bad as Hillary & Bernie going to a Fox News debate.
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Member Since: 11/15/2009
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Originally posted by alexanderao
I think TYT has a point here. Cable news networks are being watched less and less by young people, and if you want to reach young people with politics (which America has kind of failed at recently), they are the network to host a debate with.
According to OpenSlate, an analytics company, TYT was getting 37 million views per month in October 2014. Their viewership has almost certainly grown since then. |
Having a debate on a YouTube stream would be a great idea, but TYT have proven themselves to be totally biased and they can't seriously think they should be the ones to host a debate
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Member Since: 8/16/2010
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Originally posted by alexanderao
I think TYT has a point here. Cable news networks are being watched less and less by young people, and if you want to reach young people with politics (which America has kind of failed at recently), they are the network to host a debate with.
According to OpenSlate, an analytics company, TYT was getting 37 million views per month in October 2014. Their viewership has almost certainly grown since then. |
If we're going on internet popularity Matt Drudge should host the next debate tbh.
Funny enough, he'd probably be more evenhanded than TYT. 
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Member Since: 1/20/2012
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Originally posted by Benzene
Bern victims getting testy realizing that their white socialist utopia isn't ever gonna happen in the USA. This is the anger and bargaining stage, it will get better.  |
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Originally posted by Benzene
I don't know why Bern victims think lecturing people is going to change anything. Your savior is a backbench do-nothing nobody with zero significant accomplishments to his name, laughably poor foreign policy knowledge, and he is losing badly. Good to know that he has the Internet vote though. Too bad hashtags and condescension don't equate to actual votes. |
But Bernie's supporters are the immature ones 
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Member Since: 8/16/2010
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But Bernie's supporters are the immature ones |
They gave condescension, so they got it back.  Funny how you had nothing to say about their blatantly sexist comment though. Bernie Bros indeed. 
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Member Since: 1/20/2012
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Originally posted by Benzene
They gave condescension, so they got it back. Funny how you had nothing to say about their blatantly sexist comment though. Bernie Bros indeed. |
I actually just saw that post like 30 seconds ago, long after I posted that.
Your assumptions and generalizations are cute though
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Member Since: 3/15/2013
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Is Hillary really doing the most good that she can do, fighting for the best deal that's there to get for ordinary people?
Or is she just doing something that satisfies her own definition of that, while taking tens of millions of dollars from some of the world's biggest jerks?
I doubt even Hillary Clinton could answer that question. She has been playing the inside game for so long, she seems to have become lost in it. She behaves like a person who often doesn't know what the truth is, but instead merely reaches for what is the best answer in that moment, not realizing the difference.
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Wow. This pretty much hit the nail on the head.
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Young people don't see the Sanders-Clinton race as a choice between idealism and incremental progress. The choice they see is between an honest politician, and one who is so profoundly a part of the problem that she can't even see it anymore.
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nnn where's the ****ing lie?
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Member Since: 6/9/2011
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Damn, was invited to this family dinner and came back SHOOK.
Turns out they're all Trump supporters - don't believe in Global Warming either,
saying **** like 'Not all Muslims are Terrorists but all Terrorists are Muslim..'
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they were shafted by me going to the Bernie rally but I kept my mouth shut,
Can't even bother with people like that. It was an utter mess, I just can't..
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Member Since: 3/15/2013
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Originally posted by Medo
Damn, was invited to this family dinner and came back SHOOK.
Turns out they're all Trump supporters - don't believe in Global Warming either,
saying **** like 'Not all Muslims are Terrorists but all Terrorists are Muslim..'
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they were shafted by me going to the Bernie rally but I kept my mouth shut,
Can't even bother with people like that. It was an utter mess, I just can't.. |
I have a few family members that support Trump as well and it's so embarrassing. 
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ATRL Senior Member
Member Since: 11/14/2008
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Originally posted by RatedG²
It's interesting. Makes a lot of valid points but I still think it's missing the point of why "young people are right about Hillary Clinton" because well...they aren't if they see her as this warhawk conservative democrat as she is portrayed by the left wing
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Which is amusing a bit since they talked about the protests against Vietnam War about the dawn of young voters taking big stances; a war protest in which Hillary Clinton participated in. She avidly protested the Vietnam War and one of those protests is where she met Yoko Ono of all people.
The article tried to give a spin about some young voters, but not all. It's a bit ironic that there is all this talk about why younger voters support Bernie in a big way over Hillary. Why aren't there more talks about why the older voters support Hillary more than Bernie? Their votes aren't of lesser value than younger voters. it is what it is.
Let me go enjoy my day. Y'all play nice today!
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Member Since: 6/9/2011
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Originally posted by Mike91
I have a few family members that support Trump as well and it's so embarrassing. |
It truly is, I mean I honestly thought people were exaggerating and/or joking,
But them also being mixed and technically people of color shook me a bit.
Using the "We need a businessman to run this country" rhetoric, like damn.
Can't wait for Bernie to hopefully win Washington today 
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Member Since: 8/6/2015
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Originally posted by Medo
It truly is, I mean I honestly thought people were exaggerating and/or joking,
But them also being mixed and technically people of color shook me a bit.
Using the "We need a businessman to run this country" rhetoric, like damn.
Can't wait for Bernie to hopefully win Washington today |
Bernie may likely kill her in Washington... It won't cut into her lead though 
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Member Since: 8/6/2015
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Any predictions for today?
I say Bernie beats her in all 3 states--by 15-30 points. I'm not worried about it though. At this point she's pretty much a shoe in.
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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That doesn't sound ideal at all.
It makes no sense why they'd cut the polling spots by so much.. What reasoning could they have had for that?  |
It is my understanding that the State is responsible for organising the polling stations/facilities/staff etc. Arizona is a Republican State currently, so it was organised by the local Republicans. Also apparently the funding for all this has been massively cut back, again by the Republicans.
Was this deliberate voter suppression? You could argue that such efforts especially in lower income areas reduces the Democratic votes in Presidential Elections. This was possibly an attempt to influence that by reducing funding in Arizona but the results are showing up early in the Primary. Usually higher voting turnouts favour Democrats over Republicans, and so the GOP is suspected of taking measures to reduce voting turnouts.
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Voter ID laws and punitive voter purges have been the centerpieces of a Republican strategy to rig modern elections. Republicans in nearly half of all states have managed to pass laws that make it more difficult for lower-income Democratic voters to cast ballots, forcing former Attorney General Eric Holder to compare such measures to the poll taxes used in the Jim Crow-era South in order to suppress the Black vote.. This is absolutely by design, even if some Republicans are caught in the meat grinder, too. The lower the turnout, the better Republicans fare in elections, so while voter ID laws tend to disenfranchise Democrats, the intention is more specifically to elect Republicans.
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http://www.salon.com/2016/03/24/what..._clear_reason/
The Democratic Party has complained about it, so they suspect it is a GOP voter suppression tactic. Some Bernie supporters blame it on Hillary, but she has no control over organising Arizona election facilities. No candidate in the running is allowed to do that.
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Member Since: 11/15/2009
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Originally posted by HeyMr.DJ
Any predictions for today?
I say Bernie beats her in all 3 states--by 15-30 points. I'm not worried about it though. At this point she's pretty much a shoe in.
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I think he'll win by 45 in Washington
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