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Discussion: U.S. Election 2016: Primary Season
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Common Core has been the victim of politicalisation. The standards themselves aren't crazy or anything, many have been in place statewide for a while.
Students who want to go beyond have every opportunity to do so, and teachers aren't restricted either. I always find the "limits student potential" and "does not cater to students individual needs" argument weak, because national standards does not mean that a teacher cannot tailor education to a student.
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When are Bernie and Hillary going to discuss work visas and address legal immigration more directly?
I know illegal immigration is the hot button issue, but as someone who has international friends from college who struggled to get work in the US after school despite having technical degrees (think STEM degrees), being more than qualified, and really wanting to move here, it's immensely frustrating to see this part of the issue go undiscussed during the Dem debates. I mean I think the GOP has discussed it more than the Dems have.
Honestly, while I understand the plight of many illegal immigrants, I do find it incredibly unfair that people want a path to citizenship for illegal immigrants when there are so many skilled foreign workers who struggle and spend years trying to immigrate through the correct and legal channels, and are unsuccessful.
These are the people we should be welcoming into the country with open arms.
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Member Since: 7/13/2010
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Originally posted by Radiance
Common Core has been the victim of politicalisation. The standards themselves aren't crazy or anything, many have been in place statewide for a while.
Students who want to go beyond have every opportunity to do so, and teachers aren't restricted either. I always find the "limits student potential" and "does not cater to students individual needs" argument weak, because national standards does not mean that a teacher cannot tailor education to a student.
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As a teacher, I can say that all common core standards are there for is for your daily lesson target and for you to measure student achievement based on that skill. Based on my profession you are exactly right in that it is over politicized. In basically every lesson plan template that individual schools, districts, etc. use there are opportunities for modifications to be made for students with disabilities, english language learners, and those that are gifted. Teachers get rated for how they modify and tailor their lessons to multiple learners of low-middle-high ability.
Yes, the standards are the backbone of the lesson, but you can teach in many different ways with many different complex texts how to "Cite strong and thorough textual evidence to support analysis of what the text says explicitly as well as inferences drawn from the text." (which is a 9th grade standard)
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Member Since: 7/21/2012
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The Republicans and this narrative that they have a better chance at the GE because the Dems aren't coming out, and that a lot of Dems are switching over. It's completely not accurate, or what they think is good for them.
1) GE polls show Bernie and Hillary beating all the Rep candidates left. Some show red/purple states turning blue or purple.
2) First black president v First female president of '08 is record turnout. That's not the case this time, but doesn't change the fact that there are still more people voting for Hillary than Trump.
3) It's a strategy. Dems actually want Trump in the GE so Hillary can beat him so they are purposely voting for him
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by King Maxx
The Republicans and this narrative that they have a better chance at the GE because the Dems aren't coming out, and that a lot of Dems are switching over. It's completely not accurate, or what they think is good for them.
1) GE polls show Bernie and Hillary beating all the Rep candidates left. Some show red/purple states turning blue or purple.
2) First black president v First female president of '08 is record turnout. That's not the case this time, but doesn't change the fact that there are still more people voting for Hillary than Trump.
3) It's a strategy. Dems actually want Trump in the GE so Hillary can beat him so they are purposely voting for him
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Don't exit polls show that most Hillary and Bernie supporters are happy with both candidates? Bernie has his anti-establishment narrative, but on the whole, they both have very similar beliefs and ideals - they just have different methods of getting there. A lot of people are content for one or the other. Whereas Trump, Cruz, Kasich, and poor recently departed Little Marco, all have entirely different ideologies and would go about things in dramatically different ways. They want "their" candidate to win because it represents something completely different than the rest of the candidates. I don't find it a very accurate basis for one on one comparison.
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Member Since: 7/21/2012
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Originally posted by The Countess
Don't exit polls show that most Hillary and Bernie supporters are happy with both candidates? Bernie has his anti-establishment narrative, but on the whole, they both have very similar beliefs and ideals - they just have different methods of getting there. A lot of people are content for one or the other. Whereas Trump, Cruz, Kasich, and poor recently departed Little Marco, all have entirely different ideologies and would go about things in dramatically different ways. They want "their" candidate to win because it represents something completely different than the rest of the candidates. I don't find it a very accurate basis for one on one comparison.
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Right. Although some want us to think Bernie supporters won't show for Hillary or will switch to Trump. 
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by King Maxx
Right. Although some want us to think Bernie supporters won't show for Hillary or will switch to Trump. |
I think that that is largely an extreme portion of his millennial vote (the base most likely to post online and be the most passionate about anything) I don't think I'd believe the older millennial vote and those even older that make up his base with electoral experience would be so selective. Same with the more hardline extreme Democrats that wouldn't vote for him because he does not represent the party. At the end of the day, I trust and believe that the Democrats will rally together and help each other. Especially when Donald Trump refuses to pivot to the center. Obama and Clinton was far more contentious than this and they and their fans together built a stronger Democratic coalition.
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Member Since: 7/21/2012
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A lot of people like Bernie, but voted for Hillary. Or did vote for Bernie, but will vote for Hillary.
The hate for her is far less severe than Trump (in their own parties)
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
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Today I went to a trump rally and I am disgusted. He cannot be president. Tomorrow President Clinton is having an event 5 minutes from my house and I'm volunteering, as I have been this whole week here in Tucson.
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by Cheetos
Today I went to a trump rally and I am disgusted. He cannot be president. Tomorrow President Clinton is having an event 5 minutes from my house and I'm volunteering, as I have been this whole week here in Tucson.
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I want to ask, but then I don't want to ask 
If there were highway protests in Arizona then expect MASS mayhem when he comes to California...
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Member Since: 8/7/2015
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Originally posted by RatedG²
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Very interesting article.
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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I can already see riots in LA  when Trump ha impact is here.
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
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Originally posted by Moonchild
I will never understand GMO labeling laws. It's the leftist version of climate change denial.  There's so much ignorance about GMOs when they're so beneficial. GMOs are the future, and we should not be fighting against that.
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This entire post. 
GMOs rep is pure fear mongering. We legit just had this discussion in Biology class this past week. GMOs are all around us and we don't even realize it. It's not something to fear and it's one of the only things keeping us from having a severe food shortage.
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Member Since: 8/6/2015
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Originally posted by Cheetos
Today I went to a trump rally and I am disgusted. He cannot be president. Tomorrow President Clinton is having an event 5 minutes from my house and I'm volunteering, as I have been this whole week here in Tucson.
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First of all, I am absolutely impressed and proud of you for at least attending a rally. Second of all, yay for you volunteering! I've been managing/taking part in events here in Maryland for the past few months as well! And OMG you're going to see president clinton tomorrow? SO jealous 
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Member Since: 4/6/2011
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Originally posted by The Countess
I am very much in favor of Common Core. I think the new way of teaching math is a disaster though, mainly since a lot of parents are no longer able to help instruct or help their children with it.
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I am NOT in favor or common core but I agree that the math is a disaster. my 3rd grade cousin has such a hard time trying to figure out what they want and even I have a hard time helping him and im a science major in college. its ridiculous. They add like 5 extra steps for a problem that should be straight forward. 
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Member Since: 2/6/2012
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Originally posted by The Countess
I am very much in favor of Common Core. I think the new way of teaching math is a disaster though, mainly since a lot of parents are no longer able to help instruct or help their children with it.
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I have never seen an intelligent person argue against common core, and I say this as a teacher.
They are broad guidelines. There is a ton of freedom to customize them as you choose.
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Originally posted by Wafflecakes
I have never seen an intelligent person argue against common core, and I say this as a teacher.
They are broad guidelines. There is a ton of freedom to customize them as you choose.
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ive also never see someone use "freedom" and common core in the same sentence but to each his own.
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Member Since: 8/3/2010
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Originally posted by rivers
I want to see Hillary win Utah  There were so many people that went to his rally yesterday  I just hope it's close and they split delegates here  |
Lots of conservative dems live on Utah. That's one area that she could take advantage of
Problem is lots of liberals too (and very white) so she's not favored
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Member Since: 8/3/2010
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Originally posted by King Maxx
http://ktar.com/story/970171/donald-...tion-face-off/
Hillary and Donald tied in Arizona GE poll. Arizona has only voted Democratic once in the last 50 years (Bill Clinton '96) Hillary really has potential to change the map. 1964 with Lyndon B. Johnson repeat here we come. 
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That same pollster had Sanders +3. lol. GE polls still don't mean much this far out
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Member Since: 2/6/2012
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Originally posted by Reza
ive also never see someone use "freedom" and common core in the same sentence but to each his own.
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That is because you are watching too many stupid people.
There is ALWAYS curriculum in every school and state. It was around before CC, and it will continue if CC goes away.
CC looks pretty much exactly like the other curriculum maps I have worked with. The ONLY difference is now it is standardized nation wide for consistency.
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