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Discussion: U.S. Election 2016: Primary Season
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Originally posted by heckinglovato
95% Bernie Sanders
90% Jill Stein
87% Hillary Clinton
78% John McAfee
73% Gary Johnson
27% Donald Trump
23% Ted Cruz
19% John Kasich
 Issues I disagree with Bernie on
Should the military fly drones over foreign countries to gain intelligence and kill suspected terrorists? stats discuss
Bernie Sanders: Yes
You: No, only to gather intelligence, not to kill suspected terrorists
Should the government increase or decrease the amount of temporary work visas given to high-skilled immigrant workers? stats discuss
Bernie Sanders: Decrease, companies are currently taking advantage of this program to decrease wages
You: Increase
Should Apple unlock the iPhones of suspected terrorists for the FBI? stats discuss
Bernie Sanders: Yes, but only in situations where the owner is a proven threat to national security
You: No
Issues I disagree with Hillary on
Should the military fly drones over foreign countries to gain intelligence and kill suspected terrorists? stats discuss
Hillary Clinton: Yes
You: No, only to gather intelligence, not to kill suspected terrorists
Should the U.S. formally declare war on ISIS? stats discuss
Hillary Clinton: Yes, but only with targeted airstrikes
You: No
Should the government increase or decrease foreign aid spending? stats discuss
Hillary Clinton: Increase
You: Decrease
Should the U.S. prevent Russia from conducting airstrikes in Syria? stats discuss
Hillary Clinton: Yes, and establish a no-fly zone
You: No, we should not get involved
Should the U.S. overthrow President Assad of Syria? stats discuss
Hillary Clinton: Yes, but only if we join an international coalition
You: No
Do you support the death penalty? stats discuss
Hillary Clinton: Yes
You: No
Do you support the Patriot Act? stats discuss
Hillary Clinton: Yes
You: No
Should victims of gun violence be allowed to sue firearms dealers and manufacturers? stats discuss
Hillary Clinton: Yes
You: No
^ THIS WILL NEVER MAKE ANY SENSE TO ME, LIKE... WHY? 
Should Apple unlock the iPhones of suspected terrorists for the FBI? stats discuss
Hillary Clinton: Yes, but only in situations where the owner is a proven threat to national security
You: No
Do you support Common Core national standards? stats discuss
Hillary Clinton: Yes
You: No, teach to each student's potential instead of uniform testing
Should producers be required to label genetically engineered foods (GMOs)? stats discuss
Hillary Clinton: No
You: Yes
Do you support the use of hydraulic fracking to extract oil and natural gas resources? stats discuss
Hillary Clinton: Yes, but increase oversight
You: No
Should physically and mentally capable adults on welfare be required to work? stats discuss
Hillary Clinton: Yes
You: No, but they must prove they are looking for a job or are in a training program
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Common Core National Standards are a great thing. It used to be, and continues to be, if a student moved across state lines or district lines it is very well possible that they would be learning something completely different, which should not be the case. There should be national standards that are held accountable for all teachers across all states no matter what they decide to teach in the curriculum. All Common Core does is provide a basic framework for what should be done grade by grade. For example, in 11th and 12th grade, students should be able to determine the main ideas of a text, cite evidence, analyze ideas, use context clues, talk about point of view, synthesize ideas from multiple sources, etc. These are basic skills.
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Common Core is good. It's helping to get the poorly educated states (like my state of Louisiana which is ranked last I think) up to par with the rest of the country.
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Isn't GMO labeling just fear mongering for something that isn't harmful?
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I will never understand GMO labeling laws. It's the leftist version of climate change denial.  There's so much ignorance about GMOs when they're so beneficial. GMOs are the future, and we should not be fighting against that.
Organic is great, but it should remain niche, not the standard.
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Highway protests are literally the worst
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ATRL Contributor
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Originally posted by Moonchild
I will never understand GMO labeling laws. It's the leftist version of climate change denial. There's so much ignorance about GMOs when they're so beneficial. GMOs are the future, and we should not be fighting against that.
Organic is great, but it should remain niche, not the standard. |
!!! Such a shame.
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Member Since: 8/29/2011
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Originally posted by The Countess
Isn't GMO labeling just fear mongering for something that isn't harmful?
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Quote:
Originally posted by Moonchild
I will never understand GMO labeling laws. It's the leftist version of climate change denial. There's so much ignorance about GMOs when they're so beneficial. GMOs are the future, and we should not be fighting against that.
Organic is great, but it should remain niche, not the standard. |
Pretty much. I have yet to read any scientific evidence pointing out that GMOs are bad.
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Originally posted by MAKSIM
Common Core National Standards are a great thing. It used to be, and continues to be, if a student moved across state lines or district lines it is very well possible that they would be learning something completely different, which should not be the case. There should be national standards that are held accountable for all teachers across all states no matter what they decide to teach in the curriculum. All Common Core does is provide a basic framework for what should be done grade by grade. For example, in 11th and 12th grade, students should be able to determine the main ideas of a text, cite evidence, analyze ideas, use context clues, talk about point of view, synthesize ideas from multiple sources, etc. These are basic skills.
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It's also helpful for transfer students. Students can be guaranteed that their classes will transfer with them.
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Member Since: 4/6/2011
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Quote:
Originally posted by Moonchild
I will never understand GMO labeling laws. It's the leftist version of climate change denial. There's so much ignorance about GMOs when they're so beneficial. GMOs are the future, and we should not be fighting against that.
Organic is great, but it should remain niche, not the standard. |
Not when there are no long term studies on the health effects of GMOs.  mess at you just accepting that our food should be genetically modified.
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Member Since: 4/6/2011
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Originally posted by King Maxx
Common Core is good. It's helping to get the poorly educated states (like my state of Louisiana which is ranked last I think) up to par with the rest of the country.
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common core is a disaster. I have 2 younger cousins who I help with their homework and its a MESS. delete it.  my mom is a teacher and she hates it. its so limiting and the school test scores have gone DOWN.
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People in Arizona were arrested for protesting Donald in Arizona  nobody wants ha.
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Member Since: 7/13/2010
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Originally posted by Reza
common core is a disaster. I have 2 younger cousins who I help with their homework and its a MESS. delete it. my mom is a teacher and she hates it. its so limiting and the school test scores have gone DOWN. |
Just because you don't understand something doesn't mean it isn't better overall. You dont understand it because you weren't taught that way. Test scores have gone "down" because students and teachers are still adjusting to new and better standards. The new state examinations in New York test you on your ability to use skills and explain those skills rather than on memorizing useless content knowledge.
Common Core Standards, if you read them through, are simply formalized national standards that have been at the state level for years. Have you read through the standards? If not, I would suggest doing so. Every standard that is available are reasonable standards for every student across America.
http://www.corestandards.org/ELA-Literacy/
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Member Since: 7/21/2012
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Originally posted by Reza
common core is a disaster. I have 2 younger cousins who I help with their homework and its a MESS. delete it. my mom is a teacher and she hates it. its so limiting and the school test scores have gone DOWN. |
I'm still in high school (Senior), and I don't see the problem with it.
Like people said, the concept is to help poorly educated states, transfer students, etc. The problem is not the program itself, but the standards that certain states put for it. We also focus more on the test than the information. That needs to change, yes, but no don't get rid of Common Core. It will take time for everything to line up nationally. Basically read this:
http://teaching.about.com/od/assess/...-Standards.htm
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Common Core is a good idea, but needs a lot of work for it to be successful.
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I am very much in favor of Common Core. I think the new way of teaching math is a disaster though, mainly since a lot of parents are no longer able to help instruct or help their children with it.
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Member Since: 6/20/2012
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Common Core is just 
I hate standardized curricula, it's too limiting, teach students to live up to their potential. I can't help but feeling that rich white people at the top are still telling everybody how they should be taught with this disastrous initiative.
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Originally posted by Reza
common core is a disaster. I have 2 younger cousins who I help with their homework and its a MESS. delete it. my mom is a teacher and she hates it. its so limiting and the school test scores have gone DOWN. |
Standardized testing long predates Common Core.
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Member Since: 8/29/2011
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Originally posted by heckinglovato
Common Core is just
I hate standardized curricula, it's too limiting, teach students to live up to their potential. I can't help but feeling that rich white people at the top are still telling everybody how they should be taught with this disastrous initiative. |
An old rich white male can still have the right ideas. Kind of like how some people placed their faith in a rich old white male from Vermont.
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Member Since: 7/21/2012
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Quote:
Originally posted by heckinglovato
Common Core is just
I hate standardized curricula, it's too limiting, teach students to live up to their potential. I can't help but feeling that rich white people at the top are still telling everybody how they should be taught with this disastrous initiative. |
This post is just. ugh let me not.
If you want to learn more than the average student, that's what AP/gifted classes are for.
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Member Since: 7/13/2010
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Quote:
Originally posted by heckinglovato
Common Core is just
I hate standardized curricula, it's too limiting, teach students to live up to their potential. I can't help but feeling that rich white people at the top are still telling everybody how they should be taught with this disastrous initiative. |
What do you mean "students to live up to their potential." What does that look like in schools.
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Member Since: 8/29/2011
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Before anyone says anything. I knew Bernie isn't as rich as Hillary or Trump, but he is still richer than me. We shouldn't play identity politics. Rich men can have great ideas and poor people can have stupid ideas. I will look at each person's argument by the merits of the argument alone; it's a fallacy to attack a person's character.
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