[kishi]

I agree with P!nk, but I also agree with Amber.

I also think Kim is just doing things for attention and drama. I'd love to never hear about anything from that family again.

[James Maslow]

what's the difference between a rope, a pole and a pic on Instagram?

uhmmm ⚱

[swissman]

Originally posted by sk8erfan

So many



in here

Sorry but people dismissing P!nk's points, you're the embarrassing ones in this case

It’s things like this that detract from her point though. This video turned me off her in a big way. It almost feels that she was using their fame and notoriety in this video to get the attention on her, making fun of them for the public’s enjoyment, trying to look good in comparison, acting kind of like a mean girl in her own right, instead of making an empowering song called “Smart Girls” or something that which could have directly.

Imagine Beautiful by Xtina was called Ugly and the lyrics were “You are ugly, in every single way”. A great empowering song doesn’t disenfranchise other people.

[walkingmermaid]

they always say women should be respected no matter if she's naked or not.

a woman posts a naked picture.

another woman thinks she should have more respect.

Makes no sense. We're free and if we're happy with our bodies, we can show it if we want to.

[AvrilLaQueen]

Originally posted by Mike91

They actually have a point though. Kim has nothing to offer but her looks. That DOES send the wrong message to people. She claims "BODY EMPOWERMENT!!!" yet she posts old pictures or constantly photoshopped pics of herself. That is not the intention behind all of this. She's desperate for attention and everyone can see right through it.

[Gastrodonatella]

I love pink but i wish she would be less pretentious about sexual women Amber destroyed ha.

[holocene]

YesssssssssSSS

[FreeBitch]

Team Pink

[Opium]

Originally posted by sk8erfan

So many



in here

Sorry but people dismissing P!nk's points, you're the embarrassing ones in this case

[Beyond Say]

Originally posted by primo.

Where was all this solidarity when she was bringing up Kim's sextape on twitter and Kim was mute while her husband sl*t shamed Amber in a radio interview?

She never bought up the sextape as a diss. Her point was how can you diss me for being sexual when your wife/sister got her start from being sexual. And that was very clear. And she's said it in many interviews.

Like, girl - shut up.

[Opium]

Originally posted by swissman

It’s things like this that detract from her point though. This video turned me off her in a big way. It almost feels that she was using their fame and notoriety in this video to get the attention on her, making fun of them for the public’s enjoyment, trying to look good in comparison, acting kind of like a mean girl in her own right, instead of making an empowering song called “Smart Girls” or something that which could have directly.

Imagine Beautiful by Xtina was called Ugly and the lyrics were “You are ugly, in every single way”. A great empowering song doesn’t disenfranchise other people.

she was just showing how girls then and nowadays are but I guess the shoe fits if it is such a "big turn off" for you

plus even the lyrics are really obvious your comment makes absolutely no sense

[Stevie]

Amber really knows how to gather someone.

[swissman]

Originally posted by Opium

she was just showing how girls then and nowadays are but I guess the shoe fits if it is such a "big turn off" for you

The shoe fits? lol?
I just meant its petty to specifically mimic and portray popular girls in the media in a negative way to make yourself look better in comparison.

You don’t need to tell someone else that they’re stupid in order for people to realize that you’re smart. That’s what I’m saying.

[sk8erfan]

Originally posted by swissman

It’s things like this that detract from her point though. This video turned me off her in a big way. It almost feels that she was using their fame and notoriety in this video to get the attention on her, making fun of them for the public’s enjoyment, trying to look good in comparison, acting kind of like a mean girl in her own right, instead of making an empowering song called “Smart Girls” or something that which could have directly.

Imagine Beautiful by Xtina was called Ugly and the lyrics were “You are ugly, in every single way”. A great empowering song doesn’t disenfranchise other people.

Shaming can have reintegrative properties, you'd be a fool to deny that

[swissman]

Originally posted by sk8erfan

Shaming can have reintegrative properties, you'd be a fool to deny that

Would you say that she is practising reintegrative shaming though?

She's not. She's not just commenting on the acts she wants to shame, but emphatically shaming the individuals (dressing like them, exploiting details of their lives, etc), which you must know is called stigmatic shaming and is harmful.

[konaa]

[slw84]

Pink MUTHAFATHA decapitated the game.

This needs to go viral.

Amber's response is that of a teenager that doesn't have the experience to know better.

Amber KNOWS better and there is a difference.

A rope is different that a pole figuratively and literally.

Also, to me if it were not apparent that the likes of Amber and Kim were being nude because of money and attention then she'd have a point.

Neither amber nor kim are giving them the blueprint to a life of money and fame because they don't address the behind the scenes stuff that goes on to get to that point and kids will look at this without their tips and head in their direction minus the success.

But an education and integrity will take many a long way.

There's a reason the kardashian family has as many issues as they do because money can't fix everything.

Amber getting ha coins from the kardashians for that defense.

Get money the best way you know how girl...

[IBeMe]

Actually I really like this response. There is a lot of truth to it. Slay amber

[slw84]

Originally posted by Stevie

Amber really knows how to gather someone.

Love Amber rose but those receipts are handwritten and sloppy. She just fed right into Pink's point.

Excuses for doing things that lack integrity for money fame and power.

Unless we are to believe that Amber and Kim and others would do these things for free or if it didn't cause a commotion.

[as926]

With Amber on this one TBH. She has some very valid points. P!nk's point will always be valid, too, but there is something to be said for this persistent idea that there is only one way to be empowered as a woman. It should be up to the woman to decide how she wants to express that, and up to the parents and educators to put things into context and provide their own perspective however they see fit if the woman is a celebrity and is highly visible. There is no "one size fits all" approach to an expression of empowerment. I cannot stand Kim, but in general one woman's empowerment coming from having control over her sexuality and her body is her own damn business. If you are a woman and decide not to express yourself that way, then don't. It's a simple as live and let live. Anyone looking to mass media for education has much greater problems.