[Shaliydah88]

Originally posted by Lord Blackout

From today? She kinda dragged Rihanna for not being a legend after celebrating Work going #1

I know, and I hate that I can see what she's talking about. Hmm, how can I say all of this without seeming like a fake stan...

Hits and stats alone aren't enough to make someone a legend. One has to have more than that. Legends have to be known for something. I mean, just look at the company Rih is in stat-wise:
Stevie Wonder is a musical genius.
Janet is one of the best female performers of all time.
Whitney is THE VOICE.
Madonna is the Queen of Pop. She was provocative. Boundary pushing. Inspired every single female pop star after her.
MJ is MJ. Ultimate performer. Excellent musician.
Mariah's known for her voice. She's produced 14 of her #1s and wrote all but one of them.
The Beatles are the most iconic band of all time.
Even Bey is known as the Queen B, the best of the best of the current generation.

...Rihanna isn't really known or highly regarded for any particular talent. She's hasn't done anything goundbreaking. She's known for chasing trends instead of having songs that stand against time apart from Diamonds. She's not really known for anything that would separate her from everyone else, so I can see why Wendy said that. With all that being said, she's already an icon, and won't be soon forgotten. I can see her still pumping out hits over the next 5 or so years and doing extremely well for herself in the fashion world afterwards.

[Hotshot]

anyway, let's just be happy that TIHTY is finally over hihi

[rihannafan]

I see shaliydah is still kissing the hive's ass

[rihannafan]

Janet being one of the best performers of all time when she can't even sing well in the studio

[Disha]

[collin]

Originally posted by eli's_rhythm

aren't you 40.

[Lord Blackout]

Originally posted by Shaliydah88

I know, and I hate that I can see what she's talking about. Hmm, how can I say all of this without seeming like a fake stan...

Hits and stats alone aren't enough to make someone a legend. One has to have more than that. Legends have to be known for something. I mean, just look at the company Rih is in stat-wise:
Stevie Wonder is a musical genius.
Janet is one of the best female performers of all time.
Whitney is THE VOICE.
Madonna is the Queen of Pop. She was provocative. Boundary pushing. Inspired every single female pop star after her.
MJ is MJ. Ultimate performer. Excellent musician.
Mariah's known for her voice. She's produced 14 of her #1s and wrote all but one of them.
The Beatles are the most iconic band of all time.
Even Bey is known as the Queen B, the best of the best of the current generation.

...Rihanna isn't really known or highly regarded for any particular talent. She's hasn't done anything goundbreaking. She's known for chasing trends instead of having songs that stand against time apart from Diamonds. She's not really known for anything that would separate her from everyone else, so I can see why Wendy said that. With all that being said, she's already an icon, and won't be soon forgotten. I can see her still pumping out hits over the next 5 or so years and doing extremely well for herself in the fashion world afterwards.

I agree. Except, Janet doesn't strike me as a legend. Beyonce still strikes me as an icon. I feel like she won't be a solidified legend until we see her still selling out shows at 40+ and giving it her all (which is very likely). Rihanna, much like Mariah, has legendary stats.

[Shaliydah88]

Hun, you worship the Hive and Bey whether you realize it or not.

[Scandal & Media]

Originally posted by collin

aren't you 40.

[M!X]

Work

iTunes:
#1 United States (=)
#1 Canada (=)
#1 France (=)
#1 Mexico (=)
#2 United Kingdom (=)


Spotify:
#1 Worldwide (=)
#1 United States (=)
#1 Brazil (=)
#1 Canada (=)
#1 Denmark (=)
#1 France (=)
#1 Italy (+2)
#1 Netherlands (+1)
#1 Sweden (=)
#2 United Kingdom (=)


#1 on lock after the Brits?

[Chemist]

Originally posted by M!X

Work

iTunes:
#1 United States (=)
#1 Canada (=)
#1 France (=)
#1 Mexico (=)
#2 United Kingdom (=)


Spotify:
#1 Worldwide (=)
#1 United States (=)
#1 Brazil (=)
#1 Canada (=)
#1 Denmark (=)
#1 France (=)
#1 Italy (+2)
#1 Netherlands (+1)
#1 Sweden (=)
#2 United Kingdom (=)


#1 on lock after the Brits?

Doubt it that awful Lukas Graham song is huge right now

[lilMonsterKayla]

Britney is a sunburnt meatloaf, but I don't feel like hating on her that much

[Shaliydah88]

Originally posted by Lord Blackout

I agree. Except, Janet doesn't strike me as a legend. Beyonce still strikes me as an icon. I feel like she won't be a solidified legend until we see her still selling out shows at 40+ and giving it her all (which is very likely). Rihanna, much like Mariah, has legendary stats.

My main point was that Rih needs to find something to be known for aside from hits. A signature sound wouldn't hit her either. Katy and Taylor aren't stellar vocalists, but they WRITE their material and do a damn good job at it. Katy has her sound, Taylor had her country pop sound before she transitioned to full on pop, but her music is still very much Taylor Swift. Gaga's crazy outfits took away from her talent, but she's doing everything in her power to make sure the emphasis is now put on her talent.

I think Rihanna knows this too, which is why she wanted ANTI to be timeless. Songs that she can build a legacy off of. But even then, she still had songs like Work on the album. I just hope that she learns from the mistakes she made during the ANTI fiasco. I hope she finds the perfect mix of hit singles and good album ttacks that no one else is doing. More importantly, I hope that it actually works for her.

[Yanko]

i need at least 1 bop like this on LG5

[lilMonsterKayla]

You and I kinda

[M!X]

Originally posted by Chemist

Doubt it that awful Lukas Graham song is huge right now

omg mess I just checked on Kworb, his lead

at least she will get a new peak and fix those AWFUL album sales there

[Tom Vercetti]

I guess 7 years is happening. I don't hate the song though. There's been much worse last year at #1.

[Lord Blackout]

Originally posted by Shaliydah88

My main point was that Rih needs to find something to be known for aside from hits. A signature sound wouldn't hit her either. Katy and Taylor aren't stellar vocalists, but they WRITE their material and do a damn good job at it. Katy has her sound, Taylor had her country pop sound before she transitioned to full on pop, but her music is still very much Taylor Swift. Gaga's crazy outfits took away from her talent, but she's doing everything in her power to make sure the emphasis is now put on her talent.

I think Rihanna knows this too, which is why she wanted ANTI to be timeless. Songs that she can build a legacy off of. But even then, she still had songs like Work on the album. I just hope that she learns from the mistakes she made during the ANTI fiasco. I hope she finds the perfect mix of hit singles and good album ttacks that no one else is doing. More importantly, I hope that it actually works for her.

Yeah, Rih has legendary stats but she just needs to be more of a hardworker.

More of this:



Less of this:

http://www.billboard.com/articles/ne...ys-performance

That was what Wendy said too. She doesn't see Rih working hard into her 40's

[collin]

my
Nebraska guy!

is kind of cute if yur alone and mostly ugly

[Ecstasy]

Originally posted by collin

my
Nebraska guy!

is kind of cute if yur alone and mostly ugly

So. You love it?