[King Maxx]

Originally posted by hooky

She's taking Vermont?

I wasn't aware of Vermont being Super Tuesday. My mistake.

[Retro]

Originally posted by Citrus

Your loss in 2036 will help galvanize the party to take back the White House with me

You'll be the Breckinridge to my FDR

[Bloo]

Originally posted by Retro

We're talking about that tomorrow in my Computer Ethics class. I wish Hillary would comment on the issue, though I understand pissing off the FBI might not be in her best interest right now.

Yeah... If Hillary could just avoid association of any kind with the FBI, that would be great.

On the issue, I don't understand the goal behind it. Terrorists could easily encrypt their messages in a way the government wouldn't be able to decipher by writing their own encryption codes. I don't see how having aback door would help much.

[King Maxx]

Originally posted by Retro

We're talking about that tomorrow in my Computer Ethics class. I wish Hillary would comment on the issue, though I understand pissing off the FBI might not be in her best interest right now.

She "agreed" with both sides during the Nevada town hall.

But yeah lets keep them busy and away from her as long as possible.

[RatedG²]

Anyone have thoughts on the Apple situation? Should they or should they not break open the terrorist's phone?


edit: nvm y'all talking about it already lol

[King Maxx]

I think they should. I really don't see the big argument, but I'm not aware of encryption software and technologies so I'll just see what happens.

[Citrus]

Originally posted by Retro

You'll be the Breckinridge to my FDR

Or I'll be your Truman

Watch yo back!

[hooky]

Originally posted by King Maxx

I wasn't aware of Vermont being Super Tuesday. My mistake.

All good

So, Bernie has one state on lock and another good shot. If the rest are at least close losses then he'll survive Super Tuesday and go on to the northern states, which are much more favorable to him.

[TikiMiss]

Originally posted by RatedG²

Anyone have thoughts on the Apple situation? Should they or should they not break open the terrorist's phone?


edit: nvm y'all talking about it already lol

They shouldn't. Honestly, there are better ways to do it than to create a backdoor that would be susceptible to hackers and intrusion by other governments.

[hooky]

Originally posted by RatedG²

Anyone have thoughts on the Apple situation? Should they or should they not break open the terrorist's phone?


edit: nvm y'all talking about it already lol

They shouldn't. If they open their phones (while they could be helpful), it would set a precedent for snooping through anyone's phone. We already know the government was spying on the American public (and likely still are, despite what they say).

Plus, any backdoor, intentional or not, is a way for ANYONE with enough computer knowledge to get in.

Also their phones probably don't have anything on them, and if they do, it's also encrypted.

[Citrus]

nnn remember the ATRL Presidential Election

[Bloo]

Originally posted by RatedG²

Anyone have thoughts on the Apple situation? Should they or should they not break open the terrorist's phone?

As a computer science major, I don't see the point of making a backdoor. One, it does pose a risk of making the operating system more vulnerable in general. From what I understand, this issue arose from trying to get onto a phone with a lock on it. I know, in the past, there was software where you could easily bypass that (and I believe there still is, such as if a customer puts a passcode an a store iPhone). But, with the introduction of iOS 8, Apple put more security encryption into it to secure user data. I'm not entirely sure of all the security details involved in the OS's design... But, making a backdoor may (and probably would) involve altering the OS to weaken it.

However, regardless, I do think that making a backdoor would not accomplish much in the witchhunt for terrorists. I could write my own encryption/decryption program in a few minutes. Terrorists could easily do the same. AI researchers have also identified the problem of terrorists being able to encrypt messages with common words and phrases and being unable to effectively come up with a methodology to deduce if a message is terroristic in nature.

It's a complicated issue, and I would promote diplomacy with tech companies than forcing them to create a backdoor.

Also, hacking is extremely overrated. A huge hack a few years ago, called Heartbleed, was done with a very simple exploit of C code taking advantage of memory allocation. Making a backdoor would probably expose more weaknesses for hackers to exploit than it would anything else, honestly.

[RatedG²]

Originally posted by hooky

All good

So, Bernie has one state on lock and another good shot. If the rest are at least close losses then he'll survive Super Tuesday and go on to the northern states, which are much more favorable to him.

If he wants a good Super Tuesday he'll needs to win Vermont, Colorado, Massachusetts, and Minnesota while possibly pulling off the upset in one other state (his best chances being OK and VA) while minimizing losses in the South as much as possible. Doing that keeps his nomination hopes not just barely alive but with real chances rather than "mathematically possible but virtually impossible" chances

[Citrus]

Also, if any of you are voting via absentee ballot for the primaries, request those ASAP. Deadlines are usually very tight with those, check your local BOE.

[Chivas]

Originally posted by hooky

All good

So, Bernie has one state on lock and another good shot. If the rest are at least close losses then he'll survive Super Tuesday and go on to the northern states, which are much more favorable to him.

That's the problem. At least half the states are going to be massive blowouts in favor of Hillary. He likely won't be able to recover, thankfully.

[hooky]

Originally posted by Bloo

As a computer science major, I don't see the point of making a backdoor. One, it does pose a risk of making the operating system more vulnerable in general. From what I understand, this issue arose from trying to get onto a phone with a lock on it. I know, in the past, there was software where you could easily bypass that (and I believe there still is, such as if a customer puts a passcode an a store iPhone). But, with the introduction of iOS 8, Apple put more security encryption into it to secure user data. I'm not entirely sure of all the security details involved in the OS's design... But, making a backdoor may (and probably would) involve altering the OS to weaken it.

However, regardless, I do think that making a backdoor would not accomplish much in the witchhunt for terrorists. I could write my own encryption/decryption program in a few minutes. Terrorists could easily do the same. AI researchers have also identified the problem of terrorists being able to encrypt messages with common words and phrases and being unable to effectively come up with a methodology to deduce if a message is terroristic in nature.

It's a complicated issue, and I would promote diplomacy with tech companies than forcing them to create a backdoor.

Exactly. It's not going to do much good, if any.

I could write an encryption program right now in Python, C++, or Java. Most likely Javascript as well. Haven't looked into C# much but I'd probably get to know it quickly. It wouldn't be a good encryption program, but it would take me no time to make. It's a basis for more elaborate encryption.

[Reza]

The difference in the answers between the Republicans and Hillary on this question is just

TAPPER: As a former secretary of state, I really am interested in your views on the foreign policy issue that has emerged on the Republican side that I’m sure you have opinions about.

Donald Trump was asked this week about the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, and he said — quote — “Let me be sort of a neutral guy. I don’t want to say whose fault it is. I don’t think it helps.”

Now, Senator Ted Cruz, on the other hand, said — quote — “I have no intention of being neutral.” He would be standing by Israel.

You’re a former secretary of state. What do you think about those answers? Where would you be?

CLINTON: Well, I think both of them missed the mark.

First of all, Israel is our partner, our ally. We have longstanding and important ties with Israelis going back to the formation of the state of Israel. I will defend and do everything I can to support Israel, particularly as the neighborhood around it seems to become more dangerous and difficult.

I also believe the Palestinians deserve to have a state of their own. That’s why I support a two-state solution. That’s what I have worked on. That’s what I tried to move forward when I was secretary, and holding three very intense conversations between the prime minister of Israel and the president of the Palestinian Authority.

Those are not mutually exclusive. I happen to think that moving toward a two-state solution, trying to provide more support for the aspirations of the Palestinian people is in the long-term best interests of Israel, as well as the region, and, of course, the people themselves.

them giving one sentence answers and Hillary giving a doctoral dissertation

[RatedG²]

I see your points.

But I respectfully disagree (this is where my slightly more conservative side comes in). I think thy should force Apple to open it. Sure privacy is a problem but these are terrorists we are talking about. Their whole intent was to come here and kill Americans. That's it, they don't care who dies they just wanted to kill as many as possible and if there's ANY chance we can stop future terrorist attacks with the info on the phone I say do it. There have been many leads which were dead ended the police say but can be answered with the phone.

I think to avenge the dead and to help America in the future we should. But that's just me

[Bloo]

Originally posted by hooky

Exactly. It's not going to do much good, if any.

I could write an encryption program right now in Python, C++, or Java. Most likely Javascript as well. Haven't looked into C# much but I'd probably get to know it quickly. It wouldn't be a good encryption program, but it would take me no time to make. It's a basis for more elaborate encryption.

You definitely could. You could do it in Assembly if you wanted to (though I don't recommend it ). C# is literally just Microsoft's invention from being pissy about not being able to buy Java. It's literally a Java rip-off with some of their own spins to it--the biggest being that it's multi-paradigm.

Originally posted by RatedG²

I see your points.

But I respectfully disagree (this is where my slightly more conservative side comes in). I think thy should force Apple to open it. Sure privacy is a problem but these are terrorists we are talking about. Their whole intent was to come here and kill Americans. That's it, they don't care who dies they just wanted to kill as many as possible and if there's ANY chance we can stop future terrorist attacks with the info on the phone I say do it. There have been many leads which were dead ended the police say but can be answered with the phone.

I think to avenge the dead and to help America in the future we should. But that's just me

I'm indifferent on data privacy. I really don't care. I don't do anything illegal whatsoever, and if the government wants to see, I don't care. My concern is the pandora's box of security issues that could be opened from a backdoor and just how little of an impact it would have against terrorists. Security mishaps are all about vulnerabilities. Making a backdoor would assuredly open vulnerabilities.

[TikiMiss]

Originally posted by RatedG²

I see your points.

But I respectfully disagree (this is where my slightly more conservative side comes in). I think thy should force Apple to open it. Sure privacy is a problem but these are terrorists we are talking about. Their whole intent was to come here and kill Americans. That's it, they don't care who dies they just wanted to kill as many as possible and if there's ANY chance we can stop future terrorist attacks with the info on the phone I say do it. There have been many leads which were dead ended the police say but can be answered with the phone.

I think to avenge the dead and to help America in the future we should. But that's just me

The FBI are shady though. They purposefully reset the Bernardino shooter's passcode

The FBI has admitted that a reset of the San Bernardino shooter’s iCloud passcode was done with the agency’s consent in the days following the terror attack at the Inland Regional Center that left 14 people dead.
Apple said that had the passcode to Syed Farook’s iPhone not been reset, the company would have been able to initiate a backup of the phone’s data to its associated iCloud account in order to retrieve its contents. However, with the passcode on the phone no longer matching the one on iCloud, the only remaining option is the decryption of the phone itself.

Which, imo, was the FBI's intention--> make it impossible for Apple to help them without creating a backdoor.

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