[Retro]

Originally posted by Marvin

Because being a Democrat for 48 years entitles you to the nomination. Please.

That was clearly not even implied, we were talking about this "not being a campaign" for him because it's "his life" (for the past three months since he switched parties to get on the ballots and get DNC support money if he's nominated). Don't get it twisted, get it twisted.

[Marvin]

Originally posted by Retro

That was clearly not even implied, we were talking about this "not being a campaign" for him because it's "his life" (for the past three months since he switched parties to get on the ballots and get DNC support money if he's nominated). Don't get it twisted, get it twisted.

Um yeah he switched parties because he knows how strong the two-party system is even if he doesn't like it. I don't see the problem with that? Clearly his ideology is more tied to the left so why wouldn't he become a Democrat? He would be going unnoticed if he didn't become one.

And I'm sure he doesn't care about the DNC money since his supporters have been doing well enough for him so far!

[RatedG²]

Y'all stop it! Drag after the caucuses tomorrow

[Retro]

Originally posted by RatedG²

Y'all stop it! Drag after the caucuses tomorrow

I will.

[hooky]

I didn't realize you could switch parties if you weren't in a party to begin with.

[Marvin]

Originally posted by RatedG²

Y'all stop it! Drag after the caucuses tomorrow

I will.

[Retro]

Originally posted by hooky

I didn't realize you could switch parties if you weren't in a party to begin with.

Fine, switched affiliation from independent to Democrat. Glad I had to make such a trivial clarification.

[Retro]

Originally posted by Marvin

I will.

For Hillary? How interesting.

[MAKSIM]

All the haters using Hillary gifs of her looking unbothered

[Marvin]

Originally posted by Retro

For Hillary? How interesting.

Yeah, let's go with that.

[hooky]

Originally posted by brianc33616

Since the Political Duopoly (Democrats and Republicans) has been in power, the US has fallen to #20 in the world in Cato's rankings (2015) of the freest countries around the world, combining all social (see breakdown) and economic factors together. The US is #12 in economic freedom, personal freedoms #31, electoral freedom #20, press freedom #49, and rule of law freedom #20. Most of these steep declines actually took place under Obama after being put in place by Bush! I researched all of this last night and early this morning, so if anyone wants to see the links write on my wall or send me a PM!

So the US's downfall began with Lincoln? Because the same two parties have been in power since his presidency. Even before that, there were always two dominant parties, save for two brief periods from 1824 to 1829 when the Federalists lost support and the Democratic-Republicans split up into the Jacksonian movement (today's Democrats) and the National Republicans (never became popular and was replaced by the Whigs in the 1830s) and a bit in the 1850s when the Whigs died out and the GOP rose. Washington was the only independent president ever. Every other president has been a member of one of the two dominant political parties at the time.

Our best years economically were under the current party system. While third parties had much more support in the early 20th century, they weren't close to being as big as other countries' third parties. The two-party system worked for most of our country's life; it's only recently it's become a visible problem.

[Andres]

Originally posted by Marvin

She has a very slim chance of winning the general election. She's already losing to all of them but Trump in the polls (she leads by one but it's in the margin of error so basically tied) and her ongoing scandals (emails, speeches) plus anything the Republicans release could finish her. Not to mention she has little support outside of the Democratic Party base.

Thankfully Bernie will win the Democratic nomination so we don't have to worry about that.

amen

[MAKSIM]

I can only hope Bernie gets the democratic nomination so I can finally vote republican, go on Fox News for starting Gays for Trump, and become a political commentator there

[RatedG²]

Originally posted by MAKSIM

I can only hope Bernie gets the democratic nomination so I can finally vote republican, go on Fox News for starting Gays for Trump, and become a political commentator there

[hooky]

Originally posted by MAKSIM

I can only hope Bernie gets the democratic nomination so I can finally vote republican, go on Fox News for starting Gays for Trump, and become a political commentator there

[Skywalker]

I wonder if Jason Kander is going to be able to beat my incumbent senator Roy Blunt.

[Marvin]

Originally posted by MAKSIM

I can only hope Bernie gets the democratic nomination so I can finally vote republican, go on Fox News for starting Gays for Trump, and become a political commentator there

[Retro]

Originally posted by MAKSIM

I can only hope Bernie gets the democratic nomination so I can finally vote republican, go on Fox News for starting Gays for Trump, and become a political commentator there

Now sis, that's not the way to go if insurgent millennials disproportionately over-liberalize the Democratic Party's primary process, even I know that.

Vote Bloomberg!

[hooky]

Originally posted by Retro

Now sis, that's not the way to go if insurgent millennials disproportionately over-liberalize the Democratic Party's primary process, even I know that.

Vote Bloomberg!

Yes, split the party and allow a Republican to take office

[Retro]

Originally posted by hooky

Yes, split the party and allow a Republican to take office

I don't subscribe to the notion that it would be a sufficient split for Bloomberg to lose to Trump.

We're not in the general yet.

Regardless, I'm going to vote for the candidate I most side with. If that's Bloomberg instead of Bernard, then so be it, and shaming me for that is... tacky.

Notice how I don't complain about the Green Party floating candidates and splitting the liberal vote - I think third party and independent candidates are important.