[Andres]

Originally posted by IcarusIsFlying

Bernie's going to win isn't he Christ

Originally posted by @michael

I've been having a bad feeling about it the last couple of weeks. I'm just gonna sit in the corner and laugh/cry as the Dems shoot themselves in the foot.

kiiiii

[Espresso]

Originally posted by iamvladd

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All the Facebook comments are so livid Oh my god

[Gladion]

Most of the cites I'm seeing say Hillary won last night, hopefully it helps

[Retro]

Originally posted by IcarusIsFlying

Bernie's going to win isn't he Christ

Probably not tbh.

[RatedG²]

Originally posted by Retro

Probably not tbh.

Probably to me is somewhere between 55-75%

There's less than a 15% chance of winning. I say most likely not.

though stranger things have happened!

[heckinglovato]

Originally posted by IcarusIsFlying

Both

Probably tbh

[Moonchild]

I'm still a bit shocked that someone had the wherewithal to tell Hillary to her face, in a Democratic town hal no less, that she was considered dishonest. A valid concern, but

[Moonchild]

Hillary is like 20 points over Bernie nationally at the moment. Bernie happens to be lucky that Iowa and NH are first and play to his demographic. Iowa is 94% white, IIRC, which happens to be Bernie's biggest support base.

[heckinglovato]

Originally posted by Moonchild

I'm still a bit shocked that someone had the wherewithal to tell Hillary to her face, in a Democratic town hal no less, that she was considered dishonest. A valid concern, but

I honestly wouldn't be able to tell that to Carly Fiorina, not even in a neutral setting, the nerve.

[feelslikeadream]

Originally posted by iamvladd

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This is a good answer, but she low-key dragged that kid and called him ignorant. "If this is your first time paying attention..." nnnn. Queen!

[MDJD11]

Here is my view: Bernie doesn't have a plan and is just saying things to get votes. All of Bernie's past constituents are backing Hilary which is very telling.

If you want a continuation of the Obama term, Hilary is the way to go. She is really the only option to continue to make America great, because it always has been great.

[RatedG²]

Originally posted by Moonchild

Hillary is like 20 points over Bernie nationally at the moment. Bernie happens to be lucky that Iowa and NH are first and play to his demographic. Iowa is 94% white, IIRC, which happens to be Bernie's biggest support base.

Eh, you're right that's true. But Minnesota is like 85% white and Hillary is killing them there. I think it has less to do with the racial demographics and more to do with most other states (especially the large delegate states) are democratic but less liberal, therefore more likely to support Hillary instead.

Of course being more racially diverse AND less liberal (aka the South) helps even more

[Bloo]

Originally posted by IcarusIsFlying

Both

I doubt it. Bernie doesn't stand much of a chance in southern states or with super delegates. IA and NH just happen to be the first states to vote.

[Butters]

Originally posted by Moonchild

Hillary is like 20 points over Bernie nationally at the moment. Bernie happens to be lucky that Iowa and NH are first and play to his demographic. Iowa is 94% white, IIRC, which happens to be Bernie's biggest support base.

Also keep in mind the New Hampishirites and Iowans are completely hammered with politcal ad campaigns compared to any other state. Im sure there are many who are still unfamiliar with Bernie.

[RatedG²]

Honestly if you're unfamiliar with Bernie at this point then you must live under a rock

[Javan]

Originally posted by MDJD11

Here is my view: Bernie doesn't have a plan and is just saying things to get votes. All of Bernie's past constituents are backing Hilary which is very telling.

If you want a continuation of the Obama term, Hilary is the way to go. She is really the only option to continue to make America great, because it always has been great.

Why would you want that? I know many Democrats are disillusioned with Obama's performance. Does Hillary have a plan herself? I once read nytimes article titled "Health care reform is hard" and its like no **** Sherlock. No matter who the nominee is, everyone is going to have a tough time getting past the GOP congress. Which is why you go into presidency with ambitious goals and ideals and compromise from there is necessary. Lbr, compromise inevitable. But Hillary plans to go into presidency already at state of compromise, and with no ambition for real chanhe, and her policies will still be battled. We are supposed to believe that Hillary will have a leg up on Bernie because she's more practical or w/e and the GOP will never work with a democratic socialist. As if they don't hate Hillary's guts too. Probably more than they ever will Bernie. Hillary said with her own mouth that the GOP is "the enemy ", so how is she really going to get **** done with that attitude?

[Moonchild]

Originally posted by Javan

Hillary said with her own mouth that the GOP is "the enemy ", so how is she really going to get **** done with that attitude?

She actually answered that in last night's town hall, if you had watched it.

Regardless, Bernie does not have the political capital, political connections or the same knowledge of political inner workings that Hillary has. You assume Bernie will be able to reach a compromise with the Republicans when they've become more partisan than ever before. Hillary has worked alongside the White House for twelve years and knows how to work with Congress from the West Wing. The Republicans have no incentive to work with Bernie when they can (and will) and completely stonewall him.

[Javan]

Originally posted by Moonchild

She actually answered that in last night's town hall, if you had watched it.

I didn't watch it no. But I'm assuming she backtracked? It doesn't take back the words she said and more importantly it doesn't change the fact that the GOP think she is the devil incarnate.

Originally posted by Moonchild

Regardless, Bernie does not have the political capital, political connections or the same knowledge of political inner workings that Hillary has.

Connections with whom? Is it not the connections with the GOP we should be concerned with since they are ever so powerful?

Originally posted by Moonchild

You assume Bernie will be able to reach a compromise with the Republicans when they've become more partisan than ever before.Hillary has worked alongside the White House for twelve years and knows how to work with Congress from the West Wing.

But it appears to me that Bernie actually has more legislative experience than Hillary. Particularly bipartisan legislation. And despite the house being dominated by the GOP throughout 1994 to 2006, Bernie is actually responsible for the most amendments.. as an independent at that. Seems like y'all are doing the most to downplay his competence.

Originally posted by Moonchild

The Republicans have no incentive to work with Bernie when they can (and will) and completely stonewall him.

What is their incentive not to stonewall Hilary?

[St. Charles]

How many days 'till Iowa?

[RatedG²]

Iowa is February 1st