Discussion: U.S. Election 2016: Primary Season - Page 430

Adonis

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Originally posted by RatedG²

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/vid...likes_him.html

Donald is right though. I know people in congress who've said the same thing years ago....

Citrus

I would rather have anyone than Cruz. Slimy little man.

BlueTimberwolf

Lol at the UK Parliament trashing Bernie and pumping up Hilary

Retro

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Originally posted by RatedG²

Retro update your list. Utah scores have been released by RCP

Democratic Delegates from Current Polling
0 = no RCP/HuffPost poll yet (28 states/territories)
2233 needed to win
Chronological Order

State / Hillary / Bernie
TOTAL / 2325 / 915
Superdelegates / 359 / 11 (718 total, 346 still possibly uncommitted)
Iowa / 21 / 19
New Hampshire / 11 / 12
Nevada / 19 / 12
South Carolina / 35 / 14
Georgia / 77 / 17
Massachusetts / 62 / 30
Minnesota / 45 / 29
Texas / 138 / 68
Virginia / 63 / 27
Alabama / 0 / 0
American Samoa / 0 / 0
Arkansas / 0 / 0
Colorado / 44 / 19
Oklahoma / 29 / 7
Tennessee / 0 / 0
Vermont / 0 / 0
Louisiana / 47 / 6
Nebraska / 0 / 0
Kansas / 0 / 0
Maine / 0 / 0
Mississippi / 0 / 0
Michigan / 82 / 51
Florida / 148 / 51
Illinois / 110 / 42
Missouri / 48 / 23
North Carolina / 71 / 25
Ohio / 100 / 48
Arizona / 44 / 18
Idaho / 0 / 0
Utah / 13 / 10
Alaska / 0 / 0
Hawaii / 0 / 0
Washington / 0 / 0
North Dakota / 0 / 0
Wisconsin / 42 / 35
Wyoming / 0 / 0
New York / 178 / 49
Maryland / 52 / 22
Connecticut / 28 / 18
Delaware / 0 / 0
Pennsylvania / 119 / 41
Rhode Island / 0 / 0
Indiana / 0 / 0
Guam / 0 / 0
West Virginia / 0 / 0
Kentucky / 37 / 8
Oregon / 0 / 0
Virgin Islands / 0 / 0
Puerto Rico / 0 / 0
California / 227 / 173
Montana / 0 / 0
New Jersey / 76 / 32
New Mexico / 0 / 0
South Dakota / 0 / 0
DC / 0 / 0
Marianas / 0 / 0

BlueTimberwolf

Yeah Trump will definitely lose this election, especially after comments at the UK debate is played all over the news

Edit: Yeah that Muslim ban proposal will be looked as the biggest campaign error this cycle

RatedG²

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Originally posted by BlueTimberwolf

Yeah Trump will definitely lose this election, especially after comments at the UK debate is played all over the news

Still underestimating Trump?

. Do you mean he will win the nom/lose the GE or lose the nom?

Retro

Dem insiders: Sanders failed to dent Clinton

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More than three-quarters of Democratic insiders surveyed immediately following the prime-time forum said Clinton won the debate, compared with just over 20 percent who picked Sanders as the winner. But among Republicans, Sanders was the runaway victor: Two-thirds said Sanders won, to 20 percent for Clinton.
Most Democratic insiders felt Clinton effectively dinged Sanders with her aggressive approach to Sanders’ opposition to some stricter gun laws and his statements supporting a single-payer health care system.
“She gave as good as she got,” said an Iowa Democrat. “Sanders at times seemed unable to control his emotions.”
“The conjuring up of Bernie Sanders' voting record on several issues took a nick out of his vaunted, saintly consistency,” added a Nevada Democrat.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/0...#ixzz3xcmSXkUj

BlueTimberwolf

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Originally posted by RatedG²

Still underestimating Trump?

. Do you mean he will win the nom/lose the GE or lose the nom?

I think he will lose both, but I've said that before

Adonis

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Originally posted by Retro

Dem insiders: Sanders failed to dent Clinton

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/0...#ixzz3xcmSXkUj

Hilary Clinton did win the debate last night. That doesn't take away the fact that Clinton almost always tries to mimic Bernie on various other issues. Bernie saved her as far as the email scandal goes. Maybe that was a mistake. I think Bernie is right about single payer. Clinton is wrong about that issue. Hillary Clinton thinks she 's going to excite democrats by sounding like a Republican. This could be a bad thing come general election time TBQH.

RatedG²

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Originally posted by BlueTimberwolf

I think he will lose both, but I've said that before

You have but anything he says won't truly hurt him. We've seen this multiple times

He'll win the nom and lose in the general methinks.

BlueTimberwolf

Just a question for the thread about Trump Muslim ban. Take religion out of it.

Let's say you have a population "X". Out of the group, 20% of the group is dangerous. Let's say that the 20% is Group B, and the other 80% is Group A. If you don't have the means to differentiate between group A and group B, would it be wrong to keep out all of population X until you are able to?

Espresso

RNC Officially Severs Ties with NBC News for GOP Debate

Ramcoro

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Originally posted by Espresso

RNC Officially Fires NBC News From Upcoming GOP Debate

Is "fires" the correct word? Lol

St. Charles

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Originally posted by BlueTimberwolf

Just a question for the thread about Trump Muslim ban. Take religion out of it.

Let's say you have a population "X". Out of the group, 20% of the group is dangerous. Let's say that the 20% is Group B, and the other 80% is Group A. If you don't have the means to differentiate between group A and group B, would it be wrong to keep out all of population X until you are able to?

The thing is, how would you differentiate? You can't pick a terrorist out of any group because they're normal looking people with different minds.

Ramcoro

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Originally posted by BlueTimberwolf

Just a question for the thread about Trump Muslim ban. Take religion out of it.

Let's say you have a population "X". Out of the group, 20% of the group is dangerous. Let's say that the 20% is Group B, and the other 80% is Group A. If you don't have the means to differentiate between group A and group B, would it be wrong to keep out all of population X until you are able to?

Change 20% to 0.0002% and change "no means to differentiate" to "substantive means to differentiate however imperfect" then we can talk.

Espresso

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Originally posted by Ramcoro

Is "fires" the correct word? Lol

No. Added for effect. Ya fiyahed!

BlueTimberwolf

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Originally posted by St. Charles

The thing is, how would you differentiate? You can't pick a terrorist out of any group because they're normal looking people with different minds.

Exactly. It's really difficult now to tell the difference. So do you think we shouldn't bother to try to profile and let in all of population X.

RatedG²

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Originally posted by BlueTimberwolf

Just a question for the thread about Trump Muslim ban. Take religion out of it.

Let's say you have a population "X". Out of the group, 20% of the group is dangerous. Let's say that the 20% is Group B, and the other 80% is Group A. If you don't have the means to differentiate between group A and group B, would it be wrong to keep out all of population X until you are able to?

Well 20% of those people aren't dangerous IRL if you're comparing percentage wise but ignoring that...

this would only make sense if all 100% are from a single area. But the thing is only the 20% is from a specific area and the other 80% are scattered yet you're ready to ban all of population X? Doesn't make any sense

Now going on Trump's Muslim ban. He doesn't want to ban just the Muslims from the terrorist hot pockets. He wants to ban ALL Muslims EVERYWHERE outside of the US, including US Muslims abroad. If that isn't the dumbest and most anti American thing I've ever heard of than idk what is

St. Charles

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Originally posted by BlueTimberwolf

Exactly. It's really difficult now to tell the difference. So do you think we shouldn't bother to try to profile and let in all of population X.

Mess. You could apply this logic to something else, and I would make the comparison but then the thread would get messy really quickly.

We should think of a new idea to differentiate or have increased security measures.

Bloo

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Originally posted by Retro

Dem insiders: Sanders failed to dent Clinton

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/0...#ixzz3xcmSXkUj

Interesting.

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Originally posted by Adonis

Hilary Clinton did win the debate last night. That doesn't take away the fact that Clinton almost always tries to mimic Bernie on various other issues. Bernie saved her as far as the email scandal goes. Maybe that was a mistake. I think Bernie is right about single payer. Clinton is wrong about that issue. Hillary Clinton thinks she 's going to excite democrats by sounding like a Republican. This could be a bad thing come general election time TBQH.

How is wanting to expand something that Republicans hated so much that they shut down the federal government over sounding like a Republican? No, her approach is more pragmatic in the sense that you're not having to go with something entirely new from a legislative POV. Hillary is right in that aspect, it's not even up for debate. Whether you think you should just go big first or work up to it incrementally is where the differing in politics lies. But Hillary's comments were nothing short of accurate.